Companies House - Registration of charge

[Sly]

Any idea what this is for?

 

Link

 

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04593477/filing-history

[jeffschlupp]

They've took out a loan secured against TV money up until January 2022.

 

We've done that for the last couple of seasons with Macquarie for TV monies and also some of the Mahrez fee, it just allows us to gain access to cash immediately rather than waiting for it, helps for cash flow reasons in the short term. Lots of clubs in the PL do it, it's mostly a no brainer if you are secure and unlikely to get relegated which hopefully we are for the next few seasons.

[Jackirius]

Yeah what Jeff said above. Pretty common for sports teams to do this I believe. Get cash upfront and quicker for Trincao and Watkins 

[gerrytaggart]

7 minutes ago, Jackirius said:

Yeah what Jeff said above. Pretty common for sports teams to do this I believe. Get cash upfront and quicker for Trincao and Watkins 

Ooohhhh yeaaah brother. 

[Chrysalis]

are Macquarie an affiliate of King Power? they have been the lender of all the loans we have taken out, but instead people have been claiming King Power themselves lent the money.

 

Also on this charge I cannot see a loan amount.

[jeffschlupp]

4 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

are Macquarie an affiliate of King Power? they have been the lender of all the loans we have taken out, but instead people have been claiming King Power themselves lent the money.

 

Also on this charge I cannot see a loan amount.

Don't think so, other clubs like Wolves have used them. The yearly financial accounts will detail the loan amount, usually they've been £30-50m in the past couple of years.

 

The only loan we have with KPI at the minute is the £91m facility for the training ground, which I assume is on very favourable terms for LCFC, but it is only six years in length.

[davieG]

4 hours ago, Ashley said:

Not sure where to put this or if it wwe worthy of its own thread but weve just secured/applied for another loan. 

 

[Bayfox]

Possibly to do with the stadium expansion. We borrowed the money for the training ground against part of the mahrez fee 2nd instalment and the future TV deal as well I believe.

 

If fans aren't allowed in grounds anytime soon maybe they will try get the planning through before Christmas and start works when less likely to affect crowds and bound to be a small boom once football fans are allowed to return.

[Lesta Legend]

46 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

are Macquarie an affiliate of King Power? they have been the lender of all the loans we have taken out, but instead people have been claiming King Power themselves lent the money.

 

Also on this charge I cannot see a loan amount.

Not all the loans, Barclays also.

[chapero82]

56 minutes ago, Bayfox said:

Possibly to do with the stadium expansion. We borrowed the money for the training ground against part of the mahrez fee 2nd instalment and the future TV deal as well I believe.

 

If fans aren't allowed in grounds anytime soon maybe they will try get the planning through before Christmas and start works when less likely to affect crowds and bound to be a small boom once football fans are allowed to return.

Haven’t the government also said they are wavering planning permissions for now also?

[Foxes96]

 

1 hour ago, Bayfox said:

Possibly to do with the stadium expansion. We borrowed the money for the training ground against part of the mahrez fee 2nd instalment and the future TV deal as well I believe.

 

If fans aren't allowed in grounds anytime soon maybe they will try get the planning through before Christmas and start works when less likely to affect crowds and bound to be a small boom once football fans are allowed to return.

 

7 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

Haven’t the government also said they are wavering planning permissions for now also?

 

Could be linked to Bert’s tweet in the twitter transfer rumours thread. Similar to how the ground has been funded.

 

If so very exciting news!! 

[Sooper Steve's shin]

3 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

are Macquarie an affiliate of King Power? they have been the lender of all the loans we have taken out, but instead people have been claiming King Power themselves lent the money.

 

Also on this charge I cannot see a loan amount.

Macquarie is a very large Australian investment bank. 

[Babylon]

3 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

are Macquarie an affiliate of King Power? they have been the lender of all the loans we have taken out, but instead people have been claiming King Power themselves lent the money.

 

Also on this charge I cannot see a loan amount.

Who claimed Kingpower lent the money, they haven't put their own cash in for a long time. Technically anything the club makes is there's, so technically they have. But outside source money they haven't. 

 

This lot are known as the vampire bank... bloody suckers!

[SemperEadem]

3 minutes ago, Sooper Steve's shin said:

Macquarie is a very large Australian investment bank. 

With a sketchy rep.

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, Bayfox said:

Possibly to do with the stadium expansion. We borrowed the money for the training ground against part of the mahrez fee 2nd instalment and the future TV deal as well I believe.

 

If fans aren't allowed in grounds anytime soon maybe they will try get the planning through before Christmas and start works when less likely to affect crowds and bound to be a small boom once football fans are allowed to return.

...just as  stated a few years ago that the revenue from our league position would be used to finance the expansion!!!

I believe we are on target for the expansion as previously stated and the advent of covid has not had any effect on our plans.

[Clever Fox]

I wouldn't worry, Our Susan is very astute when it comes to money. She's the driving force behind the Club.

[st albans fox]

Looks like 2+2=4

[Paninistickers]

I find the tactic quite interesting.

 

Basically it's factoring. An overdraft in reverse. Plonking a huge chunk of cash in your account and running it down.... rather than running up an overdraft and waiting for the PL money to arrive months later to pay it all off.

 

Slightly curious as to why we are so cash thirsty though. 

 

And slightly curious as to why the training ground outlay seemingly hasn't been mortgaged over the next 40 years. I don't see the rush to pay for it up front. 

[peach0000]

16 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I find the tactic quite interesting.

 

Basically it's factoring. An overdraft in reverse. Plonking a huge chunk of cash in your account and running it down.... rather than running up an overdraft and waiting for the PL money to arrive months later to pay it all off.

 

Slightly curious as to why we are so cash thirsty though. 

 

And slightly curious as to why the training ground outlay seemingly hasn't been mortgaged over the next 40 years. I don't see the rush to pay for it up front. 

It's a lot of money and no one knows what will happen in the next 10 years in football let a lone 40 years. Doing something like that with that amount of money could really threaten the future or even existence of the club in the future. It would seem silly to do it especially when we can afford to pay for it right now. Also imagine the interest on that.

[Mehrez]

3 hours ago, Babylon said:

Who claimed Kingpower lent the money, they haven't put their own cash in for a long time. Technically anything the club makes is there's, so technically they have. But outside source money they haven't. 

 

This lot are known as the vampire bank... bloody suckers!

KP did a 6 year £91m loan for the training ground, it’s in the latest accounts 

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, Mehrez said:

KP did a 6 year £91m loan for the training ground, it’s in the latest accounts 

KP lent LCFC the £91m? 

 

....That's interesting. I wonder where the heck KP have £91m of cash reserves from.to dish out? 

 

 

 

 

[Mehrez]

2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

KP lent LCFC the £91m? 

 

....That's interesting. I wonder where the heck KP have £91m of cash reserves from.to dish out? 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sooper Steve's shin]

6 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

KP lent LCFC the £91m? 

 

....That's interesting. I wonder where the heck KP have £91m of cash reserves from.to dish out? 

 

 

 

 

They can probably obtain a loan like that at better rates and have the assets to put up security for it, then lend it on to the football club. 

[Babylon]

6 hours ago, Mehrez said:

KP did a 6 year £91m loan for the training ground, it’s in the latest accounts 

Ahhh fair enough, usually look at the accounts but didn’t bother this year. I know they mentioned in the ones before they’d look at a long term facilty.

[FoxFossil]

It's to pay for a new fax machine, latest model without the built in 14 sec delay feature.