Maddison

[mozartfox]

5 minutes ago, Jakemoore said:

The press are out to get Maddison big time. This is what they do. They pick a target and they hound and hound and hound until they implode, or worse. It happened with Caroline Flack and now she’s not with us anymore. Maddison is 24 years old, filthy rich and on holiday away from the pressure of football and was seen with his arm around a couple of different women. How do we know one of those women isn’t his cousin? Or his best mates girlfriend? I’m a happily married man but I hug other female friends on a night out or whatever. Not every single thing a man does with a woman has to be confused with cheating. I’m sick and tired of the agenda against Maddison. I think he’s a young guy who makes mistakes, but is a decent bloke deep down and should just be left to get on with living his life. 

Oi oi - nudge nudge - wink wink

[moore_94]

10 minutes ago, Jakemoore said:

The press are out to get Maddison big time. This is what they do. They pick a target and they hound and hound and hound until they implode, or worse. It happened with Caroline Flack and now she’s not with us anymore. Maddison is 24 years old, filthy rich and on holiday away from the pressure of football and was seen with his arm around a couple of different women. How do we know one of those women isn’t his cousin? Or his best mates girlfriend? I’m a happily married man but I hug other female friends on a night out or whatever. Not every single thing a man does with a woman has to be confused with cheating. I’m sick and tired of the agenda against Maddison. I think he’s a young guy who makes mistakes, but is a decent bloke deep down and should just be left to get on with living his life. 

Can’t be having that, clearly means you are up to some dodgy stuff with them!

 

Hanging around with and hugging other women, disgraceful!

 

Edited 6 July 2021 by moore_94

[daddylonglegs]

11 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Oh no we can't shift on one of our best players... what a shame...

Please can people stop referring to him as one of our best players ffs. Scoring the odd free kick and having a very good 6 game spell in a season does not warrant you being one of our best players. 

 

He's nowhere near the category of Kasper, Ricardo (at his best), Soyuncu, Fofana, Evans, Justin, Ndidi, Youri, Barnes, Vardy, Kelechi. 

[Nick]

9 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Please can people stop referring to him as one of our best players ffs. Scoring the odd free kick and having a very good 6 game spell in a season does not warrant you being one of our best players. 

 

He's nowhere near the category of Kasper, Ricardo (at his best), Soyuncu, Fofana, Evans, Justin, Ndidi, Youri, Barnes, Vardy, Kelechi. 

I get the split opinion on Madders but I think the above is a bit OTT. He's had purple spells where he's been every bit the level of those players above, and better - but last season through injury he was a bit pants, yeah. I think there's a lot more to come from the lad and it will be key and integral - remember when Vardy scored goals from open play, that was pretty much because Madders was on the pitch and creatively firing.

[Chocolate Teapot]

1 minute ago, Nick said:

I get the split opinion on Madders but I think the above is a bit OTT. He's had purple spells where he's been every bit the level of those players above, and better - but last season through injury he was a bit pants, yeah. I think there's a lot more to come from the lad and it will be key and integral - remember when Vardy scored goals from open play, that was pretty much because Madders was on the pitch and creatively firing.

Weirdly I just had a look at the first two pages of this thread. You could post them now and no one would notice. Hes 25 this year, he can no longer be considered a young player anymore imo.

 

'Big season for me, he's been a bit hit or miss' was one comment. It seems to have happened every season hes been with us so I don't buy that it's just injuries personally. 

 

If we got an offer of above 50m I'd definitely sell.

[daddylonglegs]

9 minutes ago, Nick said:

I get the split opinion on Madders but I think the above is a bit OTT. He's had purple spells where he's been every bit the level of those players above, and better - but last season through injury he was a bit pants, yeah. I think there's a lot more to come from the lad and it will be key and integral - remember when Vardy scored goals from open play, that was pretty much because Madders was on the pitch and creatively firing.

Fair enough! I'd be interested to know who, of the players I listed, you rate on the same level as Maddison. 

[daddylonglegs]

13 minutes ago, Nick said:

I get the split opinion on Madders but I think the above is a bit OTT. He's had purple spells where he's been every bit the level of those players above, and better - but last season through injury he was a bit pants, yeah. I think there's a lot more to come from the lad and it will be key and integral - remember when Vardy scored goals from open play, that was pretty much because Madders was on the pitch and creatively firing.

Perhaps a better way of making the point is that they're the players from last year's squad that are more important to the team than Maddison. 

[moore_94]

35 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Please can people stop referring to him as one of our best players ffs. Scoring the odd free kick and having a very good 6 game spell in a season does not warrant you being one of our best players. 

 

He's nowhere near the category of Kasper, Ricardo (at his best), Soyuncu, Fofana, Evans, Justin, Ndidi, Youri, Barnes, Vardy, Kelechi. 

I do find it interesting that you talk about purple patches yet included Kelechi who has so far for us has been pretty poor other than the purple patch for about 10 games?

 

I called him one of our best because when at his best and not dealing with injuries he is one of the best number 10’s in the league.

Edited 6 July 2021 by moore_94

[daddylonglegs]

4 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I do find it interesting that you talk about purple patches yet included Kelechi who has so far for us has been pretty poor other than the purple patch for about 10 games?

 

I called him one of our best because when at his best and not dealing with injuries he is one of the best number 10’s in the league.

Comparing Kelechi's purple patch (single handedly winning us games) and Maddison's (consistently putting in 7 or 8/10 performances for about 6 games) is an interesting one....

 

 

[moore_94]

14 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Comparing Kelechi's purple patch (single handedly winning us games) and Maddison's (consistently putting in 7 or 8/10 performances for about 6 games) is an interesting one....

 

 

Purple patch is still a purple patch, what if he goes back to being absolute guff next season? Still one of our best players? Or was he only good for 10 games and could now revert to his norm?

 

Also just because he wasn’t always scoring a winning goal it doesn’t mean his contributions weren’t just as important to getting a result?

 

Plenty of times he scored or assisted the 1st goal of a game and contributed to what would be the match winning goal.

Edited 6 July 2021 by moore_94

[daddylonglegs]

8 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Purple patch is still a purple patch, what if he goes back to being absolute guff next season? Still one of our best players? Or was he only good for 10 games and could now revert to his norm?

 

Also just because he wasn’t always scoring a winning goal it doesn’t mean his contributions weren’t just as important to getting a result?

 

Plenty of times he scored or assisted the 1st goal of a game and contributed to what would be the match winning goal.

Then he'll be on Maddison's level

[Collymore]

10 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

The major problem here is in 2021 people still believe everything they read in the gutter press.

Basically how it works, take a photo of any given celebrity, write a narrative that may or may not of occurred but loosely fits with the picture.
Add some wow words that either depicts said celebrity in a positive or negative light, depending on what will get more clicks or sell more papers (gain advertising revenue).

The thing which frustrates me most, is some seemingly intelligent people lap it up, and chose to believe this narrative. It happens time and time again and yet people still chose to buy these newspapers or go to there website.

If someone with a camera has chased Maddison around the whole time he’s been in Ibiza and these are the most incriminating photos they can get - it’s been a pretty tame holiday. 
 

Yes, exactly this. They could have chosen to take some photos where it appeared Madders was pushing the women away and gone with a story

 

"Dad to be puts family first" 

 

James Maddison was forced to let a 'raven haired beauty' know that her behaviour was inappropriate. The 24 year old Leicester midfield was visibly shaken after being attacked by a hoard of 'sun kissed beauties'

 

the Coventry born dad to be had just returned from helping out at a local homeless shelter when the women threw themselves at the slightly inked torso of the dynamic England midfielder. 

 

Seen here exchanging pleasantries with a local waiter, Maddison is seen asking whether he could help push his trolly, heavily stocked with water and apple tizer, back to the bar to aid his escape from the vicious mob of rampant minxes . 

Edited 6 July 2021 by Collymore

[daddylonglegs]

21 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Yes, exactly this. They could have chosen to take some photos where it appeared Madders was pushing the women away and gone with a story

 

"Dad to be puts family first" 

 

James Maddison was forced to let a 'raven haired beauty' know that her behaviour was inappropriate. The 24 year old Leicester midfield was visibly shaken after being attacked by a hoard of 'sun kissed beauties'

 

the Coventry born dad to be had just returned from helping out at a local homeless shelter when the women threw themselves at the slightly inked torso of the dynamic England midfielder. 

 

Seen here exchanging pleasantries with a local waiter, Maddison is seen asking whether he could help push his trolly, heavily stocked with water and apple tizer, back to the bar to aid his escape from the vicious mob of rampant minxes . 

Yep you're spot on - it annoys me that people get the ick about what he does in his personal life to an extent. As long as he's not breaking any rules or impacting his game/the club then I don't care.

 

People should be miffed at him for consistently going missing at crucial stages of the season when he's our 3rd highest paid player, not for hugging some random girl on holiday.

[hackenbacker]

I think the whole event was staged ... just like the moon landing 

[Oxfordfox83]

Most of this stems from Maddison’s one cardinal sin: he always looks like he’s having fun.

 

Off field or on, the guy looks like he’s enjoying himself. Nothing winds people up more.

[Scotch]

Listen, does Maddison come across as a bit of a knob? Yes. In my opinion he does but does it actually matter? No. As long as he does his job on the pitch, it doesn't matter in the slightest. 

 

The problem he has is that he falls into a category of player that the press seem to like going after. Similar to Graelish. Ofcourse their actions and behaviour don't always help them but when you see the likes of Marcos Alonso litteraly kill a young woman and get a fraction of the negative press that these two do, it's clear to see that the young playboy millionaire footballer is a far easier target for these so called "journalists". 

 

We as fans aren't much better. We protect and excuse the misgivings of the players we like yet slate the players we don't for much less. Imagine, for example James Maddison shouting "Jap" at someone from across a Casino and the reaction on here to it?

[turlo]

For all we know it could've been a known friend of his or his Mrs and he was giving her a goodbye hug. Either way 80%+ of people on here would've at least grabbed her ass.

[Chocolate Teapot]

10 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Listen, does Maddison come across as a bit of a knob? Yes. In my opinion he does but does it actually matter? No. As long as he does his job on the pitch, it doesn't matter in the slightest. 

 

The problem he has is that he falls into a category of player that the press seem to like going after. Similar to Graelish. Ofcourse their actions and behaviour don't always help them but when you see the likes of Marcos Alonso litteraly kill a young woman and get a fraction of the negative press that these two do, it's clear to see that the young playboy millionaire footballer is a far easier target for these so called "journalists". 

 

We as fans aren't much better. We protect and excuse the misgivings of the players we like yet slate the players we don't for much less. Imagine, for example James Maddison shouting "Jap" at someone from across a Casino and the reaction on here to it?

It's all contextual though isn't it. There's two things how he behaves off the pitch and how he performs on it.

 

He'd get far less abuse if he was seen to perform on it so consistently. His performances post his injury we're pretty poor - 0 assists or goals. Added to that he and a few other offenders decided to have a small soiree which was poorly timed and the manager was utterly fuming (and made a decision that was unanimously supported by those on here). You can blame his injury for his poor form but his career has been decidedly on and off. Southgate clearly sees some issues with him too and he'd be a fairly good judge given the job he's doing with the national team.

 

If he performs consistently the abuse will clearly go away. The point you make about vardy is different - he was widely condemned, apologised for it and then had the season of his life.

 

At the end of the day if he performs on the pitch the fans will ignore the rest of it.

 

 

[Scotch]

3 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

It's all contextual though isn't it. There's two things how he behaves off the pitch and how he performs on it.

 

He'd get far less abuse if he was seen to perform on it so consistently. His performances post his injury we're pretty poor - 0 assists or goals. Added to that he and a few other offenders decided to have a small soiree which was poorly timed and the manager was utterly fuming (and made a decision that was unanimously supported by those on here). You can blame his injury for his poor form but his career has been decidedly on and off. Southgate clearly sees some issues with him too and he'd be a fairly good judge given the job he's doing with the national team.

 

If he performs consistently the abuse will clearly go away. The point you make about vardy is different - he was widely condemned, apologised for it and then had the season of his life.

 

At the end of the day if he performs on the pitch the fans will ignore the rest of it.

 

 

That's the exact point I'm making. What does it say about us as a society that we will overlook you being a bellend but only if you are good at football? 

 

With regards to his misdemeanours that directly effect the club (I.e the party that saw him suspended for a crucial game or the fact that he was off playing golf during said game) yes. I feel that we have the right as fans of said club to have an opinion but in incidents like this where he's photographed hugging a girl on holiday with no context, I feel the flack he gets is disproportionate to other players and at the end of the day completely irrelevant to his responsibilities at Leicester. Many on here are giving him more crap because he's on a lads holiday with a pregnant Mrs as home than they appeared to give our recent team captain and club leader Wes Morgan for getting his mistress pregnant behind his fiancee back or a former player for beating the shite out his Mrs (albeit, prior to him signing). 

 

All examples I gave above have no consequence to the respective players ability to perform their duties and none of them should be considered when talking about them as footballers but if you are going to judge them by their off field discretions then not only should  we do it fairly which doesn't seem to be the case with regards to Maddison but their form on the pitch shouldn't be used as a defence for their actions either which you've just done for Vardy ("then had the season of his life").

[Stevosevic]

The problem is if he hadn't had his previous issues/stories then the press wouldn't be after him.

 

Now he's an easy target because of his previous mistakes. 

[fuchsntf]

Opinionate on his on Pitch qualities by all means..

IMO hes a Top Class player,who because of a couple of serious injuries/then refinding form, as not yet been able to realise his potental.

Just when reaching that earmark for International recognition ,and Finding a consistent form starting to deliver high PL performances.

He IMO as handled bis undoubted Frustration quite well....Media Noise as been dross & clickbait for the Social-media/soap inspired fans..!!

@Aus Fox  as been Spot on..!!

 

One Thing is for sure, Nobody  qualifies on this forum to judge other peoples lives...when!!

Well you can all fill in the blanks...

 

Hide behind opinions, but another young player doesn't Cover Mr perfect,though he Really hasnt done anything wrong...

And some , thankfully  not all his own team fans, have not the foresight to support him,

but   rather Listen/ get reeled  in , or create their own negative Cloud of noise..!!

 

Just my opinion like..

 

 

[UniFox21]

Just now, Stevosevic said:

The problem is if he hadn't had his previous issues/stories then the press wouldn't be after him.

 

Now he's an easy target because of his previous mistakes. 

Also consider the other usual main media targets for these stories of Sterling, Grealish and Walker are all being idolised for England currently. 

[RonnieTodger]

I hate myself for even clicking on that Daily Mail link, but I thought he'd done something interesting.

 

About 50 photos of nonsense. How ****ing creepy are the captions too? Gutter press.

[fuchsntf]

1 minute ago, Stevosevic said:

The problem is if he hadn't had his previous issues/stories then the press wouldn't be after him.

 

Now he's an easy target because of his previous mistakes. 

Can we follow you/me around & judge your/ my mistakes...

I Actually Dont think, believe or begin to understand, what Right people/fans/Media attempt to judge his actions in his own time, After Any said event/point

As been incorrect ,wrong or so called Previous mistakes..& Fk to any context..There Really isnt any, only nonsense -noise...!!

 

Or we should start putting 88% of the UK against the wall...Especially on any Covid-watch....

But Officer I am a Really nice person...

[mozartfox]

At least he hasn't picked up any silverware yet, unlike Slab-head last summer when he sported some silver hand-cuffs.