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By Reg Vardy, in Leicester City Forum

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lifted*fox

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**** the daily mail, it's not press; it's toilet paper covered in nonsense 

 

nobody should be supporting any paper that goes out of it's way to 'catch' celebrities in compromising positions just to sell numbers

 

our press is a national embarrassment and we also have an issue with people in the UK getting off on other people's misery

 

Maddison is a kid who will make mistakes, like every single one of us did at his age, irrespective of career, earnings, etc. - the holier than thou attitude stinks on here at times. 

 

people making assumptions about his character / relationship based on shitty rag photos, you honestly trust the shite the papers put out? 

 

much more pressing stuff to be getting upset about in the world tbqh 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

That's the exact point I'm making. What does it say about us as a society that we will overlook you being a bellend but only if you are good at football? 

 

With regards to his misdemeanours that directly effect the club (I.e the party that saw him suspended for a crucial game or the fact that he was off playing golf during said game) yes. I feel that we have the right as fans of said club to have an opinion but in incidents like this where he's photographed hugging a girl on holiday with no context, I feel the flack he gets is disproportionate to other players and at the end of the day completely irrelevant to his responsibilities at Leicester. Many on here are giving him more crap because he's on a lads holiday with a pregnant Mrs as home than they appeared to give our recent team captain and club leader Wes Morgan for getting his mistress pregnant behind his fiancee back or a former player for beating the shite out his Mrs (albeit, prior to him signing). 

 

All examples I gave above have no consequence to the respective players ability to perform their duties and none of them should be considered when talking about them as footballers but if you are going to judge them by their off field discretions then not only should  we do it fairly which doesn't seem to be the case with regards to Maddison but their form on the pitch shouldn't be used as a defence for their actions either which you've just done for Vardy ("then had the season of his life").

Not sure I defended vardy there - the point I was making was more around the fact that his performances never hampered us on the pitch, and maddisons did with the party - hence him, choudhury and perez are constantly criticised for it. Maddison possibly gets more but that's because he's a better player than the other two, a more financially rewarded one and as fans most just care about how the team does. Boil it down and I'm pretty sure most on here would have differing life views to most footballers.

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He should be one of our key players and due to fitness/injuries he isn’t.

 

I think he is a special player and I’m hoping he has worked hard in the offseason to be fit, strong and ready for the new season!

 

Another season like the last couple then we need to look at someone else.

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34 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Not sure I defended vardy there - the point I was making was more around the fact that his performances never hampered us on the pitch, and maddisons did with the party - hence him, choudhury and perez are constantly criticised for it. Maddison possibly gets more but that's because he's a better player than the other two, a more financially rewarded one and as fans most just care about how the team does. Boil it down and I'm pretty sure most on here would have differing life views to most footballers.

Wrll, that's what I was saying. The party incident had an effect on the team so I understand the criticism but incidents like this one in Ibiza are completely irrelevant to 8s as a football club. 

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8 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Wrll, that's what I was saying. The party incident had an effect on the team so I understand the criticism but incidents like this one in Ibiza are completely irrelevant to 8s as a football club. 

Well he did manage to turn up late to last seasons pre season (along with a few others) so as long as he's there on time this year and ready to go them I'm sure it'll be fine 👍

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1 hour ago, lifted*fox said:

**** the daily mail, it's not press; it's toilet paper covered in nonsense 

 

nobody should be supporting any paper that goes out of it's way to 'catch' celebrities in compromising positions just to sell numbers

 

our press is a national embarrassment and we also have an issue with people in the UK getting off on other people's misery

 

Maddison is a kid who will make mistakes, like every single one of us did at his age, irrespective of career, earnings, etc. - the holier than thou attitude stinks on here at times. 

 

people making assumptions about his character / relationship based on shitty rag photos, you honestly trust the shite the papers put out? 

 

much more pressing stuff to be getting upset about in the world tbqh 

 

 

Daily *Fail :P 

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19 minutes ago, PhillippaT said:

Daily *Fail :P 

 

proper irks me to see a copy of the mail sat on the side at my parents house when I visit

 

they are intelligent, well-meaning people but they read that garbage and I occasionally hear them regurgitating some unsubstantiated nonsense they've seen in there 

 

the country would be miles ahead of where it is now if it wasn't for the trashy back of a fag-packet 'journalism' we see in pretty much 90% of our papers and on tv 

 

other countries find our news farcical; lacking in facts, invasive and incendiary and it's easy to see why

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15 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I don’t get why anyone would think that a journalist from one of the smarmiest tabloid outlets around would be more credible than a bright, talented, well-spoken young man who has represented our football club brilliantly in his time being here. 
 

Everything that has been negatively highlighted in the press has been typical of a lad that age, and I can guarantee that if he weren’t as good looking or as talented as he is then they wouldn’t give a shit and would find someone else’s back to get on. 
 

I really hope his first goal celebration next season is him cupping his ears or shushing the camera. Would be fitting after all the stick he’s had to put up with. 
 

Imagine being on holiday and having that crap to read after busting your bollocks at a training camp the last couple weeks so you treat yourself to a good day out with friends - would be absolutely livid if I was in that position. 

Right on the button..:yesyes:

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Unfortunately our gutter press know their audience, and also how to persuade them to agree. Of course, nobody will be convinced they're being told what to think and dutifully doing so, but I'm in massive danger of getting into social politics, and I'm not sure anyone would thank me for that. 

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James Maddison: 'This will be a big year' for Leicester City midfielder

By Harry De Cosemo
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James MaddisonIMAGE SOURCEGETTY IMAGES
image captionJames Maddison has scored 21 goals in 99 Premier League appearances

Drifting out to the left of midfield at Etihad Stadium, James Maddison holds his run. He checks his surroundings and knows he's in space, before collecting the ball and heading towards goal.

The Manchester City defenders back away in fear, already shell-shocked at seeing their early lead dissipate after conceding three goals either side of half time. But they were only inviting more misery. Maddison closes in, opens up his body and curls a sumptuous shot past a helpless Ederson.

It was 27 September, 2020, and Leicester inflicted a 5-2 defeat on Pep Guardiola, his worst at home since arriving in the Premier League.

Jamie Vardy had scored a hat-trick, but Maddison's goal - his first since January that year - had everyone talking. Alongside Jack Grealish and Phil Foden, he was in the conversation for a playmaking spot in England's Euro 2020 squad.

Since then, things have changed. The 24-year-old's form has become less consistent, and he was hampered badly by a hip injury, which disrupted his run in to the summer. Leicester won the FA Cup, beating Chelsea 1-0 in the final, but Maddison's fitness restricted him to a cameo appearance at Wembley.

Injuries weren't the only issue; the harsh reality was he'd fallen behind Grealish and Foden considerably by the end of the season. The Foxes' failure to secure a Champions League spot - despite sitting in the top four for most of the campaign - was a damaging blow. When Gareth Southgate named his England squad for the Euros and Maddison wasn't in it, there was no ripple of opposition. It was the same on Thursday when he was omitted from the 25-man party for next month's World Cup qualifiers.

'Grealish is miles ahead of him'

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image captionJames Maddison was in the conversation for a place in England's Euro 2020 squad alongside Jack Grealish before he suffered a hip injury

While Foden was often seen as a string to the attacking bow at City, Maddison and Grealish, who has since moved to the Premier League champions from Aston Villa, were viewed as the chief creative forces in their respective teams.

According to Opta, Maddison's output was not just lagging behind both prospective England rivals, but also his own performances from two seasons prior. Despite playing only five fewer league games than he did in 2018-19, he created 51 chances for his team-mates last season compared to 100 during that campaign. His dribble completion dropped from 61.7% to 54.7 as his attempts decreased from 88 dribbles to 55.

Foden scored nine goals and registered five assists in 17 Premier League starts in 2020-21; Maddison scored one fewer but supplied the same amount of assists having started seven more matches. Grealish scored six and created the most goals (10) and chances (81), despite making just 26 league appearances, the fewest of the three of them.

Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live's Monday Night Club show on 9 August, Premier League winner Chris Sutton was scathing of Maddison's form.

"I thought he had a really poor season by his standards and I thought he let Leicester manager Brendan Rodgers down," Sutton said. "There was a game towards the end of the season at West Ham where he was out partying; he wasn't the only one.

"Leicester ended up losing that game and they fell out of a Champions League place. Essentially I think that game may have been a catalyst. I don't think Brendan was totally convinced by Maddison last season.

"There is no doubt Maddison was in front of Grealish at one stage, but all of a sudden Grealish has leapfrogged Maddison and he is miles ahead of him.

"Grealish was a 'Jack the lad' a couple of seasons ago, but he's knuckled down and he's been totally professional.

"When you look on the flip side of that, Maddison needs to up his game. Look at what Gareth Southgate has thought of him with the England squad. He could have been part of the squad for the Euros. He wasn't and there are reasons for that.

"This is a big season for James Maddison. We know he has the talent, he has to go out and prove it, and pay Brendan Rodgers back."

'Injuries have curtailed his progress'

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image captionJames Maddison's career has been hampered by a number of injuries

Grealish made the move to City for £100m after becoming one of the faces of England's journey to the final of Euro 2020, despite starting most of the games on the bench. Maddison has been linked with Arsenal this summer, but nothing has emerged and, over the weekend, Rodgers dismissed the story as "gossip".

Following Leicester's second Wembley victory in a matter of months, over Manchester City in the Community Shield earlier this month, Rodgers admitted Grealish may have pulled away from Maddison, but backed his player to bounce back from a difficult spell in his career.

"I think they are both close, they are both very talented players," said Rodgers. "But it's been unfortunate for James; he suffered from a number of injuries which have curtailed his progress.

"This will be a big year for him, trying to maintain that fitness. You need a little bit of luck with that as well.

"But you saw how hard he is working for the team. You see his quality and how he takes the ball, his eye for the last pass.

"He is a wonderful talent. All he can do is play to the highest level consistently for Leicester and see where it takes him."

'Whatever has come at him, he takes it in his stride and deals with it'

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image captionMaddison began his career with his hometown club, Coventry City

Setbacks have never been in short supply for Maddison but crucially neither is self-confidence. Like many in his generation, elite football has not come easy for him.

His career began at his hometown club, Coventry City, where he made his debut aged 17, before a switch to Norwich City, and then, via a short loan spell in Scotland with Aberdeen, Leicester. He has put in the hard yards.

Richard Stevens knows Maddison better than most, having coached him as a boy in the Coventry academy. He now manages the youth setup at West Bromwich Albion, but keeps in touch with his former player and watches his progress.

"He's never not been the best trainer," Stevens tells BBC Sport. "He's always been driven, but his ability has been something he's worked on since his younger years; five, six or seven years of age.

"Some of the smaller hurdles he has had in his career have shaped the person he is today. He's playing in a top six Premier League team and has been for two years. The injuries he's picked up have come at a bad time; they've set him back from being in contention for that England group in the summer."

Even though he had to wait to develop physically, Stevens says Maddison's personality was a great leveller. He has always been at the centre of everything.

"Whatever he was at 11, he still is now at 24," Stevens continues. "Compared to his team-mates, he was tiny, but his character was as big as every other one of them and more. He was in a really good group; they were competitive, and really tough on each other. Six of them actually played for Coventry's first team, and that is a big deal for an academy.

"They set the standard, and James was in the middle of it all. He was the ringleader and the voice; he demanded everything go through him, but he was a team player."

If ever there were a test of Maddison's mental strength, it came as a teenager, when Stevens held back on offering him a scholarship contract at Coventry. Doubts could have festered and grown, but it was his inner confidence which impressed the coach, and the reason he believes Maddison can get himself back on track this season.

"James was one of the last few I offered a contract to in his age group," Stevens laughs. "I wanted to make him wait, because I knew he was hungry for it. There was never any doubt I would give him one. To this day, I don't know what I was thinking!

"In the market today, you have to show your hand; you can't play that game, like I did with James. He knew he was getting a contract, his family were really supportive.

"He was an unbelievable talent, but you don't know what football does. There weren't lots of young players playing at first-team level then. It was hard to gauge how far he was going to go, but once he hit the levels he did as a 17-year-old, you knew he was going to set his own boundaries.

"Whatever has come at him, he takes it in his stride and deals with it. He has an unbelievable resilience. He has a skill and a mentality where he can always hit that next level.

"There's an assuredness about him. It isn't cockiness. He's just understanding that he's got the tools to succeed. You see that in the way he plays. Give him the ball anywhere on the pitch, and he'll try and make something happen."

Maddison must improve if he is to regain his upward trajectory. He showed his quality with that goal at Manchester City last year, and he'll believe he can come back stronger than ever.

 

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