Cengiz Signs!

[Mehrez]

19 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

shot power

I think this has been part of the problem here, he puts far too much behind almost every ball he plays

[Deeg67]

2 hours ago, Charl91 said:

Under is done at the club.

 

Shame, he never really got much of a chance, but clear Brendan doesn't rate him.

 

Still, it baffles me that he's willing to give Choudhury more chances than Under....

Not baffling at all.  Rodgers hates unpredictable players and will always default to a plodder when given the choice.

[Facecloth]

55 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

There is clearly a communication problem between him and Brendan. Otherwise Under is the best dribbler in the team together with Barnes. His accelaration and shot power is quite obvious. He is dangerous for sure.He should maybe advance his English if had not done so far. A permanent contract is not likely, though  if he is sincerely happy in England and signed by another team, that might cause some regrets.

He's shit at dribbling, loses it pretty much everytime. His acceleration isn't very evident when it come to closing players down. And shot power? I'd prefer accuracy too. Ndidi can hit it with power, but 99 times out of 100 he misses. Its not communication, he's just shit.

[coolhandfox]

2 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Not baffling at all.  Rodgers hates unpredictable players and will always default to a plodder when given the choice.

Complete rubbish, pretty sure he loved Suárez, who as unpredictable as they come.

 

Stop trying to peddle a silly narrative.

[Guest StevieLynex]

2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

That's him done here. Beyond any doubt at this point.

Under and out

[Greyowl]

1 hour ago, Mehrez said:

I think this has been part of the problem here, he puts far too much behind almost every ball he plays

You maybe right, but i sense communication problems with the coach.

[Facecloth]

2 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

You maybe right, but i sense communication problems with the coach.

Stop making excuses for him. His best mate and fellow Turk is here to translate for him hes really struggling.

Edited 3 March 2021 by Facecloth

[Mike Oxlong]

Can’t put my finger on it other than to say that after a promising start he doesn’t really mesh with the team when he plays 

[Greyowl]

1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

He's shit at dribbling, loses it pretty much everytime. His acceleration isn't very evident when it come to closing players down. And shot power? I'd prefer accuracy too. Ndidi can hit it with power, but 99 times out of 100 he misses. Its not communication, he's just shit.

In terms of dribbling and shot power, objectivity requires respecting sofifa ratings which are prepared by profesionals rather than baseless garbage written by a hatefull poster. 

[Facecloth]

13 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

In terms of dribbling and shot power, objectivity requires respecting sofifa ratings which are prepared by profesionals rather than baseless garbage written by a hatefull poster. 

Fifa stats  seriously.

 

Anyway never denied the power of his shot, more the accuracy. And I can see with my own eyes he loses the ball constantly. I see you didn't mention his closing down that I questioned, I'm guessing his work rate stat on fifa is shit  Also his decision making is woeful, but I guess fifa don't stat that up 

Edited 3 March 2021 by Facecloth

[Dan Gliballs]

6 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

In terms of dribbling and shot power, objectivity requires respecting sofifa ratings which are prepared by profesionals rather than baseless garbage written by a hatefull poster. 

It's hardly baseless garbage when it's clear to see every time he plays though.

Frustrating, there's obviously talent in there, but he's just not showing it enough here. Brendan appears to not favour him because he lacks the defensive nouse he wants in a wide player. You could maybe forgive him for that if he came on and beat everyone one on one, but he doesn't. The lad has a problem translating his talent into performances, and that's why he's not playing.

[Ian Nacho]

What’s worse is that this guy is getting paid more than Ndidi. 

[Facecloth]

Just now, Ian Nacho said:

What’s worse is that this guy is getting paid

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

What’s worse is that this guy is getting paid more than Ndidi. 

 

[Guest Fktf]

Stinks of a play him so many times and you buy him clause in the loan, and we're clearly desperate to avoid triggering that

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Greyowl said:

You maybe right, but i sense communication problems with the coach.

...not sure how it can be communication problem, Caglar is there to interpret for him....!!!

It will be more a clash of personalities that is the problem than anything else, the reactions of Rodgers on the side-lines watching Ünder says it all. He was totally exasperated with him and I wonder why he continues to keep him on the bench as opposed to a U23 player who I suspect he would trust more.

[kiwiturk]

I understand he is not fitting here or he is not part of BR's master✌️plan but calling him sh.t or insulting him is not right. C'mon.....

You're guys have to accept that there are many Turkish LCFC fans out there spread around the world, supporting the Foxes probably since  Muzzy Izzet times like myself.

We know Under and have been following him for a very long time regardless who he was playing for and  really excited when he arrived in Kings Power stadium because this boy was playing side by side  with the legendary Totti and ripped apart French National team single handedly.

Technology out there and available to confirm my statement. It just requires a simple search on the net and watch some of his previous games. 

We accept criticism but it has to be measured fairly.

- Defensive attribution is a total bulls.it because myself and other fans presented evidence in numbers and stats that he contributed more than Barnsy, almost as good as Perez defensively so this theory was end up being a nonsense.

- He wasn't the best lately but definitely he wasn't the worse either considering Hamza's today performance, Vardy's epic draught, he is merely receives the worst of the worse label.  He has clearly been nominated for the Official scapegoat of the BR. Bloody ridiculous.

I though football mangers supposed to get best out of the players but we strongly believe Brendan Rogers failed to do this when it comes to Cengo, 

So he is that good what is wrong with him?

You all need to remember when he arrives and contributed immediately. Remember that killer passes to Vardy especially in Arsenal games? Then he got injured and couldn't break in BR's golden circle. He lost confident. Simple is that.

He has been given mostly hail Mary chances to clean other players mess and expected him to clean that in 15-20 minutes. Of course you'll get jack out of him.

The reality is the  Madders and Barnsy can't even make the England's second best XI  for the Euro 2021 but Cengiz will be there and he is gonna play against Italy at the first game.

We will all see how his story will turn up during that tournament. I know where will I put my money on!!! 

 

It's done and dusted.

Let's move on and end this 106 pages long debate.

 

Edited 4 March 2021 by kiwiturk

[STUHILL]

Golden circle and golden boys? 

 

Barnes and Maddison have 23 goals between them this season. I think their selection by Rodgers is more than justified.

 

As for England selection, I think both pre injury have been very much in Southgate's thinking. Competition is stiff though, especially for Maddison's role and obviously Under wouldn't be getting into an England squad IMO. 

 

Good luck to Under in the Euros. He just hasn't managed to take his limited chances here and I'm guessing hasn't impressed much in training either, to be constantly overlooked. 

 

I would have tried playing him more but we are sitting 3rd and so Rodgers knows what he is doing and gets more things right than not, especially on developing players. 

[Greyowl]

6 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Fifa stats  seriously.

 

Anyway never denied the power of his shot, more the accuracy. And I can see with my own eyes he loses the ball constantly. I see you didn't mention his closing down that I questioned, I'm guessing his work rate stat on fifa is shit  Also his decision making is woeful, but I guess fifa don't stat ...

 Concerning last 9 games Vardy is also "shite" , concerning matches against Slavia and first half of Arsenal Barnes was also "shite" , yesterday "Soyuncu", against Arsenal Ndidi was "shite". Under's restricted minutes played "shit" doesnt worth so much hate towards him as if he is a regular starter who is responsible for our traditional death spiral.

 

[Deeg67]

7 minutes ago, Greyowl said:

 Concerning last 9 games Vardy is also "shite" , concerning matches against Slavia and first half of Arsenal Barnes was also "shite" , yesterday "Soyuncu", against Arsenal Ndidi was "shite". Under's restricted minutes played "shit" doesnt worth so much hate towards him as if he is a regular starter who is responsible for our traditional death spiral.

 

All true.  Unless you're obsessed with hating on him, of course.

[Analysethis]

You do wonder why a club like Roma, seemingly finishing just shy of the Champions League spots in recent seasons want to get rid.

 

I know he cheesed off Roma fans after a goal celebration based around a Military style salute when Turkey invaded the Kurds, but you would have thought if he was such a superkid there is no way they would have sold never mind loaned out with a view to a sale.

 

For me, he is left footed Demarai Gray. He shows amazing glimpses, you think he could be the next big thing but in reality, his game is littered with so many poor decisions, constantly shooting and simply not a Leicester player. Just like Gray, he may well find his home where his talents come to fruition but for me, he isn't a Leicester City player IMO. We have 218 injuries and the lad still cant get in which all leads to BR making the decision to look elsewhere. The search to a RM/RW continues!! 

[Deeg67]

If we want to be a serious contender for the CL on a yearly basis maybe we need to rethink what a "Leicester player" is.

[Sly]

Gray MK 2. 

Luckily we don’t own him and don’t have to pay his wages come the 30th June. 
 

I’m convinced he was a stop gap to fill in whilst Ricardo was injured.

[Facecloth]

1 hour ago, Deeg67 said:

All true.  Unless you're obsessed with hating on him, of course.

I'm not obsessed with hating him at all, I just don't rate him, and the evidence backs it up. There are a group of fans, you seem to be one, who are totally obsessed with this one player and don't seem to care about the team. Its all about Under, where he can fit it, upset when he misses out etc. Are you a Leicester fan or an Under fan? There was actually one fan who wanted to curtail Ricardo's attacking style from right back to allow Under to not have to defend. This Greyowl guy is now making excuses for him that he has a communication problem with the manager, if only there was another Turk here to help with that eh. Just accept it, whilst his profile suggested he'd be a good addition, he isn't that at all, and it's time to accept we won't be buying him.

[Claridge]

He is just not good enough.