Congerton

[AjcW]

As I’ve said in his defence all along.... 

 

I’m a marketer, if you put me to work selling Carabao I’ll shift a few units.... if you put me to work selling Red Bull I’ll shift millions but I’ll more than likely be using the same skills. 
 

That’s the difference between a small budget for an unattractive product (or even a big budget for an unattractive product, or “sunderland” if you will) and a massive budget for something everyone wants. 
 

.... and to bring it back to football.... you only have to look at what’s unfolding in Glasgow at present, what unfolded at Sunderland and what Hamburg have been up to since, To realise that it’s sometimes the decisions you make in your career about where to work that reflect badly on you, more so than your actual ability to carry out your role. 

That and of course as head of recruitment his actual job is to manage the recommendations of a team of top scouts and analysts... of which he now has at his disposal  

Edited 2 November 2020 by AjcW

[AjcW]

Also think it’s hillarious the first part of his career is never mentioned. 
 

This is a man hired by Jose Mourinho, then hand picked by someone in Frank Arnesen who, at the time was considered the best sporting director in the world, to be chief scout! 
 

Then even when he’s at Hamburg apparently having a terrible time he’s approached to replace Dan “FA Demigod” Ashworth to which West Brom were told to piss off (can’t have been that shit if they wanted to keep him!)

[Guest SO1]

57 minutes ago, Webbo said:

It's almost as if people had made their mind up about him before he had a chance.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?

[Leicester_Loyal]

The whole of the scouting department seems to have done alright this summer.

[happy85]

10 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

The whole of the scouting department seems to have done alright this summer.

Alright ? This has been the best transfer window to date. 
 

 

[SecretPro]

Best head of recruitment the world has ever seen. 

[The whole world smiles]

The level of abuse and vitriol that Rudkin and then later on Congerton recived on here by a baying minority of people who have absolutely zero clue about their character and level of competancy is nothing short of a disgrace. 

 

Hopefully the fact that it appears at least on the surface that they are both actually pretty good at their jobs will stop these idiots piling in on the next foxestalk scapegoat... But I won't hold my breath. 

Edited 9 November 2020 by The whole world smiles

[Babylon]

55 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

The level of abuse and vitriol that Rudkin and then later on Congerton recived on here by a baying minority of people who have absolutely zero clue about their character and level of competancy is nothing short of a disgrace. 

 

Hopefully the fact that it appears at least on the surface that they are both actually pretty good at their jobs will stop these idiots piling in on the next foxestalk scapegoat... But I won't hold my breath. 

Rudkin, rightfully took some pelters.

 

Silva missed deadline 

Release Clauses

Slimani cock up

 

All you can ask is people learn as he did, refusing to put in release clauses now is an admission of a cock up. 

[The whole world smiles]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Rudkin, rightfully took some pelters.

 

Silva missed deadline 

Release Clauses

Slimani cock up

 

All you can ask is people learn as he did, refusing to put in release clauses now is an admission of a cock up. 

1. How do you know the Silva thing was down to him? Seems to me the rule at the time was anything that went right with transfers was Steve walsh/marcia anything that went wrong was his fault. 

 

2. I do agree with release clauses but the general feeling is Kante wouldn't have signed without one so for me the only thing worse than loosing kante at less than market value would have been never signing him at all! 

 

3. What slimani cock up? 

Edited 9 November 2020 by The whole world smiles

[Ric Flair]

7 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

1. How do you know the Silva thing was down to him? Seems to me the rule at the time was anything that went right with transfers was Steve walsh/marcia anything that went wrong was his fault. 

 

2. I do agree with release clauses but the general feeling is Kante wouldn't have signed without one so for me the only thing worse than loosing kante at less than market value would have been never signing him at all! 

 

3. What slimani cock up? 

Had a release fee of £15m if we signed him before a certain date, opted not to and paid double a few weeks later.

[Blue ROI]

All hail King Congo 

[The whole world smiles]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Had a release fee of £15m if we signed him before a certain date, opted not to and paid double a few weeks later.

Don't remember his release clause being that low are you sure? I remember his release clause being around 25 and we payed 30 bit of a cock up agreed but nothing to get too upset about. Especially as know one knows what was going on behind the scenes and what other targets Claudio and Walsh were looking at etc etc

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Rudkin, rightfully took some pelters.

 

Slimani cock up

 

45 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

What slimani cock up? 

 

37 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Had a release fee of £15m if we signed him before a certain date, opted not to and paid double a few weeks later.

Ranieri was insistent we get him at any price. Others at the club weren't convinced.

By this time, Ranieri had a lot of credit in the bank and got his way.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Still can't help feeling our recent signings are due to our excellent scouting, analytics and recruitment team in spite of Congerton rather than due to him, and I'd much rather he wasn't at the club. Cue the sarcastic remarks, not bothered, I've not heard many positive things about him and it's my right to think that even if others don't agree 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

3 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Still can't help feeling our recent signings are due to our excellent scouting, analytics and recruitment team in spite of Congerton rather than due to him, and I'd much rather he wasn't at the club. Cue the sarcastic remarks, not bothered, I've not heard many positive things about him and it's my right to think that even if others don't agree 

Of course it's your right to think that.

And of course others have the right to think: Jeez, mate, lighten up.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Just now, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Of course it's your right to think that.

And of course others have the right to think: Jeez, mate, lighten up.

Fair comment, To explain: I thought I'd get that in as you do tend to be ridiculed on here for not going with the prevailing view, mob mentality, and it seems in to like Lee Congerton currently

[shailen]

Don't mean to be cynical but there is a part of me that thinks whilst our recruitment has been fantastic, I think our dressing room is a huge factor in why we've been so successful. Characters like Vardy, Kasper, Morgan and it must be a great dressing room. The team spirit over the last 6 or 7 seasons has been phenomenal and it makes me wonder why players like Maguire and Drinkwater stood out for us and haven't really been able to replicate the form elsewhere. 

 

It's like in any workplace. If you're happy with your job and employer, you're more likely to perform. I think that's also a major reason to our success. 

[Nod.E]

11 minutes ago, shailen said:

Don't mean to be cynical but there is a part of me that thinks whilst our recruitment has been fantastic, I think our dressing room is a huge factor in why we've been so successful. Characters like Vardy, Kasper, Morgan and it must be a great dressing room. The team spirit over the last 6 or 7 seasons has been phenomenal and it makes me wonder why players like Maguire and Drinkwater stood out for us and haven't really been able to replicate the form elsewhere. 

 

It's like in any workplace. If you're happy with your job and employer, you're more likely to perform. I think that's also a major reason to our success. 

I could debunk this post with any one of the following words:

 

Slimani

Musa

Silva

Ghezzal

Gray

 

Good recruitment is just good recruitment. Good players are good and bad players aren't.

 

Granted, environment helps, but in the same sense that no amount of back patting was going to make Ghezzal a success, Fofana always was going to be, because he's an exceptional bloody talent.

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

19 minutes ago, shailen said:

Don't mean to be cynical but there is a part of me that thinks whilst our recruitment has been fantastic, I think our dressing room is a huge factor in why we've been so successful. Characters like Vardy, Kasper, Morgan and it must be a great dressing room. The team spirit over the last 6 or 7 seasons has been phenomenal and it makes me wonder why players like Maguire and Drinkwater stood out for us and haven't really been able to replicate the form elsewhere. It's like in any workplace. If you're happy with your job and employer, you're more likely to perform. I think that's also a major reason to our success. 

Some people would have you believe the 'strong' dressing room means 'player power' and 'snakes' getting managers the sack.

 

Pearson built a strong dressing room.

Ranieri embraced it at first before going rogue.

Shakespeare wasn't around long enough (as manager) to tamper with it.

Puel didn't like the big characters, especially the immortals, who he wanted out.

Rodgers got them onside straight away and is reaping rewards.

 

You can work with a strong dressing room or against it. 

When Vardy, Wes, Kasper etc are your leaders, it's best to have them with you.

Edited 10 November 2020 by UpTheLeagueFox

[Nod.E]

34 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Still can't help feeling our recent signings are due to our excellent scouting, analytics and recruitment team in spite of Congerton rather than due to him, and I'd much rather he wasn't at the club. Cue the sarcastic remarks, not bothered, I've not heard many positive things about him and it's my right to think that even if others don't agree 

Oh that's good. You have a feeling. Great.

 

None of us have a clue. Utterly pointless speculating.

[Torten]

5 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

Oh that's good. You have a feeling. Great.

 

None of us have a clue. Utterly pointless speculating.

Woah there, pointless speculation forms the bedrock of FT. 

[murphy]

On 02/11/2020 at 22:26, Webbo said:

It's almost as if people had made their mind up about him before he had a chance.

I was pretty horrified when Congerton turned up here to be honest.  His name was a byword for failure and something of a joke figure among football fans.  This didn't happen by accident it was as a result of sustained incompetence.

 

So is it fair to take that view?  You seem to be suggesting not, but let me put it this way, if a certain Donald J Trump turned at Leicester as head of PR or Community Liaisons Officer for example, would you be saying 'Let's just give this guy a chance.  The past is the past...etc' or would you be equally horrified by his recent history?  

 

In other words, Congerton's reputation precedes him and I think it is perfectly reasonable to have deep reservations about the appointment.  Of course it would be churlish of me not acknowledge the excellent window that we have just had so he deserves credit for his part in that and if he turns out to be great for us it I would be more than happy to give him due credit but it doesn't change the fact that having serious misgivings about bringing in a head scout with a reputation as a car crash was quite appropriate imo.

[OntarioFox]

Lol, reading this thread a month later with us top, Little Wes smashing it and Under turning out to be a bit of an assist king for Vards is pretty cringe, bro 

 

[Guest SO1]

This thread is crazy. As If any one person can take credit for the success of this club alone.  Sounds like many of you are lost in the delusion of the self made man/person. What a crock of shxt. Nobody in this club does it by themselves without the assistance of others. That's why they call it a Club/Team.

[Babylon]

6 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

 

Ranieri was insistent we get him at any price. Others at the club weren't convinced.

By this time, Ranieri had a lot of credit in the bank and got his way.

In which case pay the release clause and not loads more after letting it expire ha.