Filip Benkovic to Cardiff (Loan)

[ScrumpyJack]

I am not proclaiming to be 'in the know' here, but I have been privy to some information regarding the wee Croatian.

 

Presently Benkovic has a long-term future at the club. The issue is that he hasn't had enough exposure to first-team football in recent years. His loan to Cardiff isn't a make or break scenario, or an attempt to find him a new home. Rather they want him to recieve consistent playtime, hence the risk with sending him out whilst knowing Soyuncu was unfit; they did not want to take away his opportunity to develop. 

 

Given that he is still relatively young at barely 23, I hope that he is given room to prosper. I'd be wary of ruling him out too soon, Thiago Silva was playing for Fluminese at that age.

[Bob Farley]

6 hours ago, brucey said:

 

 

So either

1. A fully fit Benkovic was good enough for the PL, but his injuries and lack of match fitness have ruined that
2. Rodgers underestimated the standard required for the PL

3. He was never really good enough and Rodgers was just talking his players up

 

4. Him and Rodgers had a lovers tiff. 

[Lambert09]

Tbf in training he’s being compared to Evans, soy and Wes. I think when Brendan’s seen him next to those guys he’s realized that perhaps Celtic weren’t quite at the same level 

[moore_94]

Not in the match day squad for Cardiff City today vs Middlesbrough

 

Cardiff City correspondants thoughts of why:

 

Seems like he only got on the bench last week because of other injuries to the squad, so he looks like currently he is the 4th choice CB

Edited 24 October 2020 by moore_94

[TrickyTrevLeftPeg]

Pointless loan.

 

If he's Injured (which is probably the case) then so be it.

 

But the lad needs games. He should have gone to a club where he was at least going to play week in week out or as much as possible.

[moore_94]

1-1 draw for Cardiff vs Middlesbrough, both Cardiff centre backs still managed to have pretty good games - Morrison with a 7.2, and Nelson with a 7.4 (Ratings from FotMob)

 

Not looking good for Benkovics chances of getting a game

[Leicester_Loyal]

This lad doesn't have much luck does he?

[Gazza M]

Call him back if that's the situation.....

[Uncle Monty]

I wonder if Cardiff fans think it's a pointless signing for them? Sign a promising center back only for him not even being in the squad.

[miles2lcfc]

It is clear the lad needs game so I imagine the club and player ask if he’s in the picture to play. I can’t imagine Cardiff would have said we plan to play him in the reserves. Neither city or Benkovic would have agreed. Let’s hope he makes his way into the team or it’ll be an awful waste and move.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

If he's not being played then he needs to be recalled.

[HighPeakFox]

There's quite a lot of season left guys...

[ScrumpyJack]

If we all chip in, we can pay £20.75 for a personalised video from the lad. Could find out his Spoons order?

 

https://www.cameo.com/filipbenkovic

[ealingfox]

Not in the squad again, and Flashscores reckon he's injured....

[FoxesWalk]

59 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Not in the squad again, and Flashscores reckon he's injured....

He started for their U23s a day ago. Sounds like he needs match fitness before being considered for first team. Give him a few weeks. 
 

 

[Guest TamworthFoxes]

So he’s been at Cardiff about 3 weeks and has found himself in the u’23’s. Presumably the coaching staff there have run the rule over him in that time. Suggests he’s a good way from even getting minutes in the league below. 
Bearing in mind we now have a 19 year old centre half who will be first choice, I don’t think the “promising youngster who just needs minutes” line can really wash. Fofana proves if you are good enough you are old enough.

Benkovic will be another Kaputska I fear.
 

[weller54]

1 hour ago, TamworthFoxes said:

So he’s been at Cardiff about 3 weeks and has found himself in the u’23’s. Presumably the coaching staff there have run the rule over him in that time. Suggests he’s a good way from even getting minutes in the league below. 
Bearing in mind we now have a 19 year old centre half who will be first choice, I don’t think the “promising youngster who just needs minutes” line can really wash. Fofana proves if you are good enough you are old enough.

Benkovic will be another Kaputska I fear.
 

Slightly bigger cabbage though.

[Guest Kopfkino]

1 hour ago, TamworthFoxes said:

So he’s been at Cardiff about 3 weeks and has found himself in the u’23’s. Presumably the coaching staff there have run the rule over him in that time. Suggests he’s a good way from even getting minutes in the league below. 
Bearing in mind we now have a 19 year old centre half who will be first choice, I don’t think the “promising youngster who just needs minutes” line can really wash. Fofana proves if you are good enough you are old enough.

Benkovic will be another Kaputska I fear.
 

 

He's in the U23s to get minutes to get fit. Harris has said his lack of pre-season and injury means he's not ready to play so he'd sooner him get U23 minutes as opposed to sitting on the bench. Whether he dislodges the first choice CBs idk straight away idk but there's plenty of season left in the season-long loan.

[KFS]

What’s going on here? Baffling case. 

[Guest SO1]

2 hours ago, KFS said:

What’s going on here? Baffling case. 

As usual endless speculation. Pretty sure no one knows WTF their talking about.

[LCCFox96]

On 26/10/2020 at 13:24, ScrumpyJack said:

If we all chip in, we can pay £20.75 for a personalised video from the lad. Could find out his Spoons order?

 

https://www.cameo.com/filipbenkovic

 

Christian Fuchs is on Cameo too - https://www.cameo.com/christianfuchs

 

Tbf to him Fuchs on Cameo just makes so much sense, he's a natural on social media and loves a video clip. He's about 4 x the price of Benk though.

 

However, if you really want to push the boat out for a loved one, for just under £800 you could bag yourself a message from Avram Grant 

Edited 29 October 2020 by LCCFox96

[Muzzy_Larsson]

On 23/10/2020 at 22:38, ScrumpyJack said:

I am not proclaiming to be 'in the know' here, but I have been privy to some information regarding the wee Croatian.

 

Presently Benkovic has a long-term future at the club. The issue is that he hasn't had enough exposure to first-team football in recent years. His loan to Cardiff isn't a make or break scenario, or an attempt to find him a new home. Rather they want him to recieve consistent playtime, hence the risk with sending him out whilst knowing Soyuncu was unfit; they did not want to take away his opportunity to develop. 

 

Given that he is still relatively young at barely 23, I hope that he is given room to prosper. I'd be wary of ruling him out too soon, Thiago Silva was playing for Fluminese at that age.

Good to hear and makes sense, I thought this would have been the case.

[Muzzy_Larsson]

On 23/10/2020 at 16:44, brucey said:

 

 

So either

1. A fully fit Benkovic was good enough for the PL, but his injuries and lack of match fitness have ruined that
2. Rodgers underestimated the standard required for the PL

3. He was never really good enough and Rodgers was just talking his players up

 

I don't think 2. is ever a possible option, Rodgers will know more than most what is required at PL level given he's managed most of his career there and almost won the league.

 

1. is closest to the truth imo, the first statement was made when Benkovic was fit, flying and was playing every week. He's barely played since he was at Celtic and has spent pretty much all the time since on the treatment table so physically he's obviously going to be nowhere near ready to play premier league football. If his ability was seriously in question then the club would have cut their losses by now and probably sold him to us. The big question mark over Benkovic and whether he makes it or not is fitness, nothing to do with ability.

 

Like most things context is key here.

[mozartfox]

If Cardiff are not going to play him, bring him back here. Pointless.  There is a player in there he just needs to get playing and be given a chance.  We could do with him now given we playing two games a week.  Baffling.

[HighPeakFox]

12 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

If Cardiff are not going to play him, bring him back here. Pointless.  There is a player in there he just needs to get playing and be given a chance.  We could do with him now given we playing two games a week.  Baffling.

There's an awful lot of season left.......look at it as Cardiff doing us a favour.