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[Corky]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I will say it again - England were the no.1 test playing nation in the world with the 18 county system......

We've been the best and the worst in the world at all formats with the current system- cricket is cyclical. For all the talk of struggling to replace Cook, I still think not having an Ian Bell style player is hindering us.

 

Is it worth giving Hameed another go? Not that he's like Ian Bell but just not convinced by either Sibley or Crawley.

 

Over rate is terrible again, by the way.

[Jimmy]

the fact Root point blank refuses to bat at 3 is a problem, that is where your best batsman is meant to be

[Jimmy]

3 hours ago, Corky said:

We've been the best and the worst in the world at all formats with the current system- cricket is cyclical. For all the talk of struggling to replace Cook, I still think not having an Ian Bell style player is hindering us.

 

Is it worth giving Hameed another go? Not that he's like Ian Bell but just not convinced by either Sibley or Crawley.

 

Over rate is terrible again, by the way.

forget Cook we never replaced Strauss, the obsession with white ball cricket means we don't have any up and coming openers

[Guest Manini]

17 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

the fact Root point blank refuses to bat at 3 is a problem, that is where your best batsman is meant to be

Doesn’t really make a difference when 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 don’t know which way to hold the bat. You need quality depth in test match batting - back in the day if Cook or Strauss didn’t score any, Trott would, if he didn’t, KP would, if he didn’t, Bell or Prior would etc etc. Unfortunately at the moment we don’t have the players to consistently score runs at this level. 
 

Also doesn’t help that numbers 3 and 6 have been preparing for this test series by pissing about playing The Hundred, but that’s clearly where the ECB’s priorities lie at the minute, that and ODI cricket.

Edited 4 August 2021 by Manini

[Guest Manini]

Credit where it’s due to Jasprit though he’s been hooping them about. 

[Voll Blau]

12 minutes ago, Manini said:

Doesn’t really make a difference when 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 don’t know which way to hold the bat. You need quality depth in test match batting - back in the day if Cook or Strauss didn’t score any, Trott would, if he didn’t, KP would, if he didn’t, Bell or Prior would etc etc. Unfortunately at the moment we don’t have the players to consistently score runs at this level. 
 

Also doesn’t help that numbers 3 and 6 have been preparing for this test series by pissing about playing The Hundred, but that’s clearly where the ECB’s priorities lie at the minute, that and ODI cricket.

Bang on. But the London Sillynannies or whatever won't be blamed if we keep getting shown up the way we are today.

 

Strauss earlier claimed Bairstow was in form because of the way he's been batting in The Hundred FFS.

[Guest Manini]

2 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Strauss earlier claimed Bairstow was in form because of the way he's been batting in The Hundred FFS.

The only thing I hate more than the competition itself is the faux circle jerk that all the pundits seem to be partaking in with it. Ramming it down our throats to tell us all how good it is and ha ha told you so you all said it wouldn’t work - Sir Geoffrey came on screen earlier and one of the commentators went “and you know what he loves The Hundred” - does he ****, the only things he loves are woodbines, casual racism and sexism, Stones Bitter and being 17* off 200 balls ffs! 

[leicsmac]

TBH though this series is likely going to be dominated by the bowlers: as fragile as the England batting lineup is, India (bar Kohli) in these conditions and against the England seamers will be equally if not more so. There's no reason to suspect they're any better in these conditions against, Anderson, Broad, Curran etc than the last three times they've visited.
 

 

In light of that, I actually think 200-250 might be a workable total to defend, especially as India probably have to bat last.

 

Edit: not that it looks like we're even going to get to 200.

Edited 4 August 2021 by leicsmac

[Leicester_Loyal]

I'm going on Friday and I'm not even that arsed, the Hundred has ruined the first test for me with all the sillyness.

[Corky]

 Allowing India a warm-up match has really worked well.

[chrishlcfc]

This is exactly what happens when you rock up to face high quality bowling, having not played a red ball game for months.

 

It’s beyond a joke, but at least they have the hundred to fall back on 

[Bert]

The batting line up is terrible. Burns is a half decent opener, but he only ever goes big or goes home. Sibley doesn’t tick it over enough for an opener, leaves way too many. Crawley would be better down the order, he’s basically betting as an opener because we always seem to lose an early wicket. All the pressure is on Root to score the runs. Bairstow just isn’t a test batter and I’m not so sure Buttler is either. Lawrence has shown glimpses of what he’s capable of but it’s been more miss than hit. Then you’re into the tail. We’ve shown too much focus on white ball cricket, and whilst it’s fun to watch and we are very good at it, we are sacrificing test series for it. 

[Corky]

If Curran wasn't so crucial to digging us out of holes I'd have him in the top three.

[CosbehFox]

 

Moose And G: Blaming the prominence of white-ball cricket for England’s failings is utter rubbish. India home of the IPL with most of their guys in multi-formats are the (2nd) best Test side in world. They have better players, better investment & better strategy. Change needed.

 

Some ****ing idiot on the BBC live page....BBC trying their best not to detract from the 100. Worth mentioning India held two intra-squad red ball matches, a three day red ball match v county select XI plus their test match v New Zealand!

[Corky]

Let's not forget that the bowling attack will surely lose Anderson in the next year, Broad is 35, Archer struggling with injury, Wood doesn't play full series. That set of quality fast bowlers is looking more fragile.

[StanSP]

That is some collapse. Left home at lunch with it 66-3. I came home from work and my dad said England were about 140-5 

 

Logged back on, checked the score and it was 160-9

 

I hope it isn't as one-sided as this. Selfishly because I'll be there at the 5th test at Old Trafford and want there to be something at stake! 

[Corky]

Crucial hour coming up, we have to take early wickets. I fear the bowlers could be knackered soon if the batting lasts 60-odd overs regularly.

[Super_horns]

1 hour ago, Corky said:

Crucial hour coming up, we have to take early wickets. I fear the bowlers could be knackered soon if the batting lasts 60-odd overs regularly.

Instead wasted a review.

 

Sums up the day.

 

Sadly not surprised .

[BlueSi13]

IMO T20 and the desperation to find any audience for the domestic game started Englands rapid decline in Test Cricket.  The Hundred could finish it off.

 

It's borderline embarrassing what we are doing to this beautiful old sport.  

 

 

[Brizzle Fox]

Went today. In all fairness India bowled good line and length all day long and as you only need to bowl straight at most of the England players to get them out, that was a very sound plan. 

[Corky]

In addition, they have had almost no preparation for this game. Only Rory Burns and Dom Sibley have faced more than 100 deliveries in first-class cricket since the series defeat by New Zealand in June.

 

Zak Crawley had faced six, while Root, Bairstow, Dan Lawrence, Jos Buttler and Sam Curran had not played a single red-ball innings. In the case of Bairstow, Buttler and Curran, their last first-class cricket came on the winter tours of Sri Lanka and India.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/58092958

 

I mean, we're only playing one of the top two Test nations in the world here. Nothing to work on.

[The boy Linacre]

7 hours ago, Manini said:

Doesn’t really make a difference when 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 don’t know which way to hold the bat. You need quality depth in test match batting - back in the day if Cook or Strauss didn’t score any, Trott would, if he didn’t, KP would, if he didn’t, Bell or Prior would etc etc. Unfortunately at the moment we don’t have the players to consistently score runs at this level. 
 

Also doesn’t help that numbers 3 and 6 have been preparing for this test series by pissing about playing The Hundred, but that’s clearly where the ECB’s priorities lie at the minute, that and ODI cricket.

Totally agree & if we keep failing to score over 200/250 could lose this series 3-1 or worse.  Salt in the wounds is that a number of these tests will be over in 3 to 4 days, if not less!!

This is a 4 day sellout, it might not go that far, only saving grace is bad weather over next few days.

A tough 6 weeks of Cricket coming up!!

[Voll Blau]

Sky branded a run chase in The Hundred "the highest in its history" last night. 

[lcfc278]

I've got a single ticket for sale for Saturday if anyone fancies it? Paid £55 for it but will take less obvs - didn't think I'd get a ticket for Wembley 

[Voll Blau]

13 hours ago, BlueSi13 said:

IMO T20 and the desperation to find any audience for the domestic game started Englands rapid decline in Test Cricket.  The Hundred could finish it off.

 

It's borderline embarrassing what we are doing to this beautiful old sport.  

 

 

Disagree that T20 is to blame. Since it became part of the professional game we've been Number One Test side in the world and haven't lost an Ashes series at home.

 

The Hundred is a different kettle of fish though. As you say it's embarrassing and does nothing to help the national team, given it's a format only recognised in England.