Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[LCFCJohn]

On 17/04/2023 at 15:18, daddylonglegs said:

The thing is these aren't the other options anymore. If 5 at the back is the way forward (As has been blatantly obvious for the last 18 months, with the personnel available for the large part), then we only need to play 2 central midfielders. 

 

Tielemans, Mendy, Praet, Ndidi should all be ahead of him. We can't afford KDH's lack of quality in the same way we can't afford Soumare's lack of running/effort.

 

It should be 2 of Youri, Mendy & Praet for the rest of the season. 

I agree if we are playing a 2 it should be Tielemans and Mendy. 
 

Disagree about Ndidi, the guy is a liability and has been responsible for a number of the goals we have conceded just since Rodgers left alone.

 

Also not sure about the bolded bit. I’d take KDH out the team in favour of the two above but not due to lack of quality but confidence shot and needs a break.

 

As a general rule in our position, Id say a lack of effort is a lot more likely to cost us. If the players we have play to the levels they can, we will/should be fine. If we have players not putting the effort and below par, then we will simply not be.

[gerblod]

20 hours ago, Strokes said:

David Silva, Gary Speed, Cesc Fabregas, Juninho and (I think) Odegaard are the ones that spring to mind but I really can’t think of many.

And the great Liam Brady...and wasn't the Birch left-footed as well?

[funkyrobot]

It was a general high energy performance from the team against Wolves but I actually thought KDH looked low in energy when he came on the pitch today. He struggled to keep up with play as if he’d been running his legs off in the first half rather than watching the match. On a positive note he got into position to have two shots at goal but overall I thought it was another game where he’ll be annoyed with his own game and where a lot of us are still surprised he is getting selected ahead of Praet even when they are both benched! 

[Nolucklcfc]

He frustrated me when he came on. Clearly lacking confidence but has to put that chance away. Could have cost us and he missed a sitter v Chelsea as well. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

That was a comically bad performance 

 

Actually felt sorry for him. I feel he just needs the season to end and to refocus.

[FLAN]

Got to be one of his worst yet. Woeful and I’m sick of seeing play break down because he won’t use his right foot 

 

how bas the academy allowed him to be so one footed?

Edited 22 April 2023 by FLAN

[blueharmie]

He just needs some luck.

 

Come on lad we need you .

 

Reckon he will score against leeeds

[Chelmofox]

Definitely missing Brendan’s bitty. Didn’t look happy in the warmup and no hint of a smile in the game. I do think he needs a bit of luck but right now I won’t be shedding tears if I see him benched. 

[HarryDee8]

Guy had 2 left feet today, amount of times he gave the ball away, even though he played only half a game!

[Ian S]

1 minute ago, HarryDee8 said:

Guy had 2 left feet today, amount of times he gave the ball away, even though he played only half a game!

You mean 2 right feet surely?

[The Doctor]

10 minutes ago, HarryDee8 said:

Guy had 2 left feet today, amount of times he gave the ball away, even though he played only half a game!

two left feet would make him better at playing a pass, problem is he had no left feet today 

[Mawuli]

1 hour ago, HarryDee8 said:

Guy had 2 left feet today, amount of times he gave the ball away, even though he played only half a game!

Brudda he is LEFT footed we'd be lucky if he was 

[eblair]

bizarre commentary on here, looked far better side after his introduction

 

admittedly had some stinky moments but if you cannot see how important he was to our shape you are lost

[South Shire Fox]

Hes not an attacking midfielder.. dont know how many times it needs to be said.  Missed a sitter and should of played a striker in but dithered and dathered like he normally does and allowed Dawson to intercept. These sort of wasted chances cost you and have cost us this season, you have to be ruthless at this level. I like him and hes a useful player as a deeper midfielder doing all the tenacious work (John Mcginn esk), not as a playmaker 

Edited 23 April 2023 by South Shire Fox

[Tom12345]

19 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Hes not an attacking midfielder.. dont know how many times it needs to be said.  Missed a sitter and should have played a striker in but dithered and dathered like he normally does and allowed Dawson to intercept. These sort of wasted chances cost you and have cost us this season, you have to be ruthless at this level. I like him and hes a useful player as a deeper midfielder doing all the tenacious work (John Mcginn esk), not as a playmaker 

He wasn’t very good today.

[Blanchflower78]

Ridiculously one footed and stealing a living as a Premier league footballer sadly. Honest, yes, hard working yes, but not at this level sadly

[marbles]

2 hours ago, eblair said:

bizarre commentary on here, looked far better side after his introduction

 

admittedly had some stinky moments but if you cannot see how important he was to our shape you are lost

They had to play better once he was brought on - to make up for the fact that we were now down a man .

Sorry, but he was bordering on disastrous today.

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

He's lost form. But let's not forget the energy and drive he has added to the team in the last year. He needs to seriously work on his end product i.e. distribution. But a good manager can coach that. Let's stick by KDH. 

[fuchsntf]

3 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

Hes not an attacking midfielder.. dont know how many times it needs to be said.  Missed a sitter and should of played a striker in but dithered and dathered like he normally does and allowed Dawson to intercept. These sort of wasted chances cost you and have cost us this season, you have to be ruthless at this level. I like him and hes a useful player as a deeper midfielder doing all the tenacious work (John Mcginn esk), not as a playmaker 

Everyone of our so called Striker specialists have missed guided-chances,and been crap at the wrong time when,either dithering or slow in sending that end telling pass..or converting that chance..

Also for us this season,find a player that hasn’t cost us a goal,through misguided pass,or caught on the ball,they have all took us into that Twighlight zone…

 

I find it incredible,that posters pick out individual players for specific criticism,where

every single player this season, is burdened with all sorts of gameday baggage..

 

plus many a top great player have been one-footed.

.I don’t know why some posters try to be clever and point it out. It’s a none relevant

topic.. I could fill the whole forum with those great names..

Just do your own search,

those on FT will find what a poor analyst of the game they are..

Crazy going on about KDH being one footed..

Edited 23 April 2023 by fuchsntf

[Bergen fox]

I think a championship team would suit him. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 hour ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said:

He's lost form. But let's not forget the energy and drive he has added to the team in the last year. He needs to seriously work on his end product i.e. distribution. But a good manager can coach that. Let's stick by KDH. 

Surely a PL footballer should not be needing to be coached on the basics of the game.
 

Passing, controlling the ball and shooting should be mastered at under 8s level 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Ed 1]

3 hours ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Ridiculously one footed and stealing a living as a Premier league footballer sadly. Honest, yes, hard working yes, but not at this level sadly

Agreed mate. Choudhury and Thomas both need selling too. Between them they’ve got away with so much over the years because they’re ‘homegrown’ 

[Devonfox1884]

He’s a solid squad player for us. Works hard and clearly cares about the club.

 

Probably shouldn’t be starting though, and I suspect he won’t start too many next season should we stay up.

[Claridge]

Was. Important to the shape of the team, but he was woeful personally. Terrible passer of the ball,, no where near good enough if we stay up

[volpeazzurro]

On 20/04/2023 at 06:46, LCFCJohn said:

I agree if we are playing a 2 it should be Tielemans and Mendy. 
 

Disagree about Ndidi, the guy is a liability and has been responsible for a number of the goals we have conceded just since Rodgers left alone.

 

Also not sure about the bolded bit. I’d take KDH out the team in favour of the two above but not due to lack of quality but confidence shot and needs a break.

 

As a general rule in our position, Id say a lack of effort is a lot more likely to cost us. If the players we have play to the levels they can, we will/should be fine. If we have players not putting the effort and below par, then we will simply not be.

I think it was Tielemans who was the liability today throughout and together with his performance in the last game, needs to be on the bench. I accept that he's not up to speed but there's no room for sentiment or the once in a blue moon great pass or shot because his overall game and persistent giving the ball away far outweighs any potential good points. He was puffing and blowing like a fat girl. We haven't time for him to get up to speed, he's a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago.