Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[PhillippaT]

13 hours ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

He’s a machine. I think he could play 180 minutes of football, and still be fresh.

He definitely plays in the proper manor for the rest of the team to relate to.

 

(EDIT: I hope you ASWIDT   )

Edited 12 April 2022 by PhillippaT

[Bert]

35 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

All this talk about Maddison , there is a lot of competition in the England midfield , that is why he isn't there. Why aren't people more concerned that Wesley Fofana is yet to win any international recognition?

Maybe because the lad is just coming back from having his ankle snapped 

[An Sionnach]

33 minutes ago, Bert said:

Maybe because the lad is just coming back from having his ankle snapped 

Wesley is the most expensive teenage defender in history I think. He has had no recognition at any level with France.

[filbertway]

16 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Wesley is the most expensive teenage defender in history I think. He has had no recognition at any level with France.

He was in the France u21s before his injury. Unfortunately for Wes, he represents a country that is ridiculously stacked and they have a manager that is about as risk averse as you'll get.

[filbertway]

Easily my player of the season, especially if he maintains putting in these monster performances. Maddison has been impressive, but KDH never goes missing in a game. It's such an important characteristic of his. We've not had a player like him since Kanté who just constantly wants to be involved in play and move the ball up the pitch. Absolute hero.

[Ric Flair]

3 hours ago, LinekersLugs said:

Madison hasn’t helped himself he embarrassed the England manager and he has shown to be “trust” based guy Southgate, he deserves a second chance but won’t be for this tournament 

A number of players who Southgate does pick have embarrassed him too but he makes allowances for some and not others. 

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

All this talk about Maddison , there is a lot of competition in the England midfield , that is why he isn't there. Why aren't people more concerned that Wesley Fofana is yet to win any international recognition?

He was first choice for France's U21 team before his injury?

[sacreblueits442]

21 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Odd really as Rodgers wanted to get rid of Henderson

...sometimes it seems, not getting what you want is a good thing!!!

[turlo]

54 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...sometimes it seems, not getting what you want is a good thing!!!

Like Man Utd/Ferguson got it wrong as they pulled out of the deal to sign Henderson due to concerns over is running style causing injuries!

[turlo]

3 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

All this talk about Maddison , there is a lot of competition in the England midfield , that is why he isn't there. Why aren't people more concerned that Wesley Fofana is yet to win any international recognition?

Southgate tends to play without a number 10 now and prefers more of a box to box type with high pressing/pressures, which was perceived as Maddisons weakness in his game. KDH is made for Southgates system and if he continues to improve will be more likely to break into the England squad than Madders. Fofana has only had 2 full seasons playing senior football, aged 20 and France are pretty stacked in defence, so could take a couple of seasons to break through into the French senior squad. 

[RowlattsFox]

Bellingham

Rice

Phillips 

Ward-Prowse

Henderson

Gallagher 

 

Only players I can see competing with KDH for an England place. He'd be in my 4 central mid choices from that lot but difficult to see Southgate not picking Henderson, Rice, Phillips and Bellingham if all fit. 

[sacreblueits442]

9 minutes ago, turlo said:

Like Man Utd/Ferguson got it wrong as they pulled out of the deal to sign Henderson due to concerns over is running style causing injuries!

...that is a strange one!!!

I suppose if you are about to invest in an asset then you need to make sure you pick the one not so likely to breakdown too often.

 Fofana has a strange gait and you wonder how he manages to get from a to b.

  Apparently Fergie claims he has only two regrets regarding players, and that is letting Jaap Stam  and Johnny Evans go.

[An Sionnach]

Every single English player who breaks into our match team gets pushed by some as an England international  prospect and yet we seem to forget that we have plenty of current internationals for other nations. We are an English club but our fanbase is by no means entirely English. To our fans from other countries playing for England is of limited importance.

[FoyleFox]

17 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...that is a strange one!!!

I suppose if you are about to invest in an asset then you need to make sure you pick the one not so likely to breakdown too often.

 Fofana has a strange gait and you wonder how he manages to get from a to b.

  Apparently Fergie claims he has only two regrets regarding players, and that is letting Jaap Stam  and Johnny Evans go.

Fergie didn't let Evans go. Fergie retired in 2013, Evans didn't leave until 2015.

[Ric Flair]

8 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Every single English player who breaks into our match team gets pushed by some as an England international  prospect and yet we seem to forget that we have plenty of current internationals for other nations. We are an English club but our fanbase is by no means entirely English. To our fans from other countries playing for England is of limited importance.

I don't really understand the point you're trying to make? So English people (whom make up the majority of our support given we are an English club) shouldn't publicly put forward and champion their young English players as potential England senior players because we also have fans from other nations that aren't as bothered? 

 

International recognition is still one of the pinnacles for players to get to and that's where this derives from. Any player we have that ought to be in their national squad gets my support in doing so, it's the highest platform for them.

[sacreblueits442]

34 minutes ago, FoyleFox said:

Fergie didn't let Evans go. Fergie retired in 2013, Evans didn't leave until 2015.

.....I stand corrected!!!

Taken from a 2017 article.

 

Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill has claimed Sir Alex Ferguson was left speechless by ex-Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal's decision to sell Jonny Evans to West Brom.

Top of Form

Bottom of Form

Jonny Evans (AMA)

Evans has gone on to be an integral member of Tony Pulis' first team and is set to be offered a new £100,000-a-week deal including the captaincy to stay at the Hawthorns.

Evans was sold for just £6m, but is now valued in excess of £20m, with O'Neil believing the 29-year-old is the best British defender in the Premier League.

Leicester had a £10m bid rejected out of hand last week and the Baggies will not be encouraging any more interest.

"When I look around the Premier League and see British centre-backs, I don't see anyone better," said the Northern Ireland boss in an interview with the Belfast Telegraph.

"I look at Gary Cahill at Chelsea and Chris Smalling at Manchester United and Jonny Evans is every bit as good as them.

"His move away from Manchester United to West Brom was maybe the right thing for him at that stage in his career but he is a player who I believe can play right at the top of the Premier League.

"He was an absolute bargain at £6million which I believe West Brom paid for him and if you are asking me is he worth £20million, I think he is a bargain at that price.

"Given that people are talking about Southampton's Virgil Van Dijk as a £50million player, that makes Jonny Evans sound cheap at £20million. If he goes to Leicester I think it is a good move for him."

 

 

Edited 12 April 2022 by sacreblueits442

[ramadaone]

KDH made to train with the 8’s today ( pictures to follow )

Worst player on the park

One swallow etc

[FoyleFox]

Our biggest issue with KDH is if the National Trust have a buyback clause.......

[Vlad the Fox]

23 minutes ago, FoyleFox said:

Our biggest issue with KDH is if the National Trust have a buyback clause.......

I’m more concerned about beardy grandads and sulky teenagers wandering around in him this Easter. 

[KFS]

1 hour ago, ramadaone said:

KDH made to train with the 8’s today ( pictures to follow )

Worst player on the park

One swallow etc

Is there something personal going on here mate? 

[los dedos]

1 hour ago, ramadaone said:

KDH made to train with the 8’s today ( pictures to follow )

Worst player on the park

One swallow etc

Under 8s ? Jeez that hardly seems fair on the kids 😳 

[Tom12345]

6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.....I stand corrected!!!

Taken from a 2017 article.

 

Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill has claimed Sir Alex Ferguson was left speechless by ex-Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal's decision to sell Jonny Evans to West Brom.

Top of Form

Bottom of Form

 

Jonny Evans (AMA)

Evans has gone on to be an integral member of Tony Pulis' first team and is set to be offered a new £100,000-a-week deal including the captaincy to stay at the Hawthorns.

Evans was sold for just £6m, but is now valued in excess of £20m, with O'Neil believing the 29-year-old is the best British defender in the Premier League.

Leicester had a £10m bid rejected out of hand last week and the Baggies will not be encouraging any more interest.

"When I look around the Premier League and see British centre-backs, I don't see anyone better," said the Northern Ireland boss in an interview with the Belfast Telegraph.

"I look at Gary Cahill at Chelsea and Chris Smalling at Manchester United and Jonny Evans is every bit as good as them.

"His move away from Manchester United to West Brom was maybe the right thing for him at that stage in his career but he is a player who I believe can play right at the top of the Premier League.

"He was an absolute bargain at £6million which I believe West Brom paid for him and if you are asking me is he worth £20million, I think he is a bargain at that price.

"Given that people are talking about Southampton's Virgil Van Dijk as a £50million player, that makes Jonny Evans sound cheap at £20million. If he goes to Leicester I think it is a good move for him."

 

 

 Man Utd’s current problems go back to van Gaal. He was the single most destructive manager ever, destroying Man Utd from the inside. He got rid of good players who were Man Utd through and through and got duds at extraordinary prices. It was a bad decision to sack Moyes and very bad decision to appoint van Gaal as manager. 

[MrsJohnMurphy]

3 hours ago, ramadaone said:

KDH made to train with the 8’s today ( pictures to follow )

Worst player on the park

One swallow etc

Ahh...I see you're trying to make your original post seem like a joke. Won't wash here I'm afraid

[sacreblueits442]

15 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

 Man Utd’s current problems go back to van Gaal. He was the single most destructive manager ever, destroying Man Utd from the inside. He got rid of good players who were Man Utd through and through and got duds at extraordinary prices. It was a bad decision to sack Moyes and very bad decision to appoint van Gaal as manager. 

....not sure the sacking of Moyes was the wrong thing to do as, he appeared out of his depth at the time!!!

It was clear that this had come too soon for him, and he was not ready for such a position which was endorsed by Sir Alex himself. Perhaps it might have been the best thing that could have happened to Moyes, as he went afield and came back with a renewed appetite for the Premier League.

[jayfox26]

Need get KDH on a 6 year contract. He could become a legend here if we can keep hold of him. Incredibly talented and his stamina and work rate are incredible. Even playing 2 games a week he doesn't stop running for the entire game. He is the present and the future of our club and we should be building our team around him. Whilst he's not the same player as Youri, he will definitely lessen the burden of us losing him. Got the potential to be an incredible player for us for years!