Six local authorities have banned outdoor smoking

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/local-authorities-england-ban-smoking-5488462

 

Outdoor smoking ban not on cards for Leicester at moment - but council watching what happens elsewhere

 

An outdoor smoking ban is not being considered for Leicester at the moment, but the city council is watching what happens in areas which have brought in the rule.

Six local authorities in England have banned people from smoking on stretches of pavements where venues have outdoor seating, including cafes, bars and restaurants.

Oxfordshire, Northumberland, Durham, North Tyneside, Newcastle and the City of Manchester have banned smoking on stretches of pavement where venues have outdoor seating, amid the new Covid outdoor eating culture.

Currently in Leicester, there are approximately 56,000 adult smokers, local data estimates.

The city's director of public health, Professor Ivan Browne, said while an aim of the council was to help smokers to quit, a similar ban was not yet on the cards here.

He said: "This is not something we have considered at this stage, but we will of course be looking at the outcomes from these councils carefully, as supporting people to quit smoking and reducing the overall prevalence of smoking in Leicester remains a key public health priority."

Moves have recently be made by the Government to make England smoke-free in less than a decade.

An attempt to make pavements smoke-free through an amendment in the House of Lords last summer failed, but outdoor eating and drinking as a result of the pandemic has brought new attention to the issue.

In July 2019, the UK Government set out its ambition for England to be smoke-free by 2030, according to SmokeFreeAction.

 

The organisation is calling on the Government to adopt its 'Smokefree roadmap', which would include legislation requiring tobacco manufacturers to finance a Smokefree 2030 fund.

The roadmap claims: "Big Tobacco makes excessive profits from selling a highly addictive and lethal product, so it should be forced to pay the price to end the smoking epidemic."

According to the most recent figures from Action on Smoking and Health (Ash), there are about 6.9 million adult cigarette smokers in the United Kingdom.

A 2019 report found that the proportion of the population who had never smoked has increased from 37.4 per cent in 1974 to 60.4per cent.

[DennisNedry]

I'm all for banning it in all public places to be honest.

 

Easy for me to say as a non-smoker who's never even tried cigarette, but as somebody who's always hated the smell, it irks me I have to tolerate people smoking at bus stops, around pub doorways etc. 

[Sly]

Just now, DennisNedry said:

I'm all for banning it in all public places to be honest.

 

Easy for me to say as a non-smoker who's never even tried cigarette, but as somebody who's always hated the smell, it irks me I have to tolerate people smoking at bus stops, around pub doorways etc. 

I’m of the same mindset, however like you say, easy to state when we don’t smoke. 
 

Can’t we spin this as a green benefit 

[Adster]

58 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

I'm all for banning it in all public places to be honest.

 

Easy for me to say as a non-smoker who's never even tried cigarette, but as somebody who's always hated the smell, it irks me I have to tolerate people smoking at bus stops, around pub doorways etc. 

Completely agree and I am from the same side here. 

 

It should be banned in all public places outdoors. 

 

 

[Parafox]

How would it be policed if it's an overall ban on smoking outdoors?

[Finnaldo]

3 minutes ago, Parafox said:

How would it be policed if it's an overall ban on smoking outdoors?

The article clarifies it stretches of pavements, presumably in the town centre, next to venues with outdoor front seating. So I assume it’s not that big an area overall. 

[Parafox]

Just now, Finnaldo said:

The article clarifies it stretches of pavements, presumably in the town centre, next to venues with outdoor front seating. So I assume it’s not that big an area overall. 

I understand that and I would agree with it, if it became policy. I was aiming my comment at those saying smoking should be banned in all outdoor spaces. Impossible.

[Finnaldo]

Just now, Parafox said:

I understand that and I would agree with it, if it became policy. I was aiming my comment at those saying smoking should be banned in all outdoor spaces. Impossible.

Oh yeah okay  yeah pretty much, its only really viable in town centre areas 

[Samilktray]

Sunglasses on, beer in hand, shirt unbuttoned maybe 1 too many and a cigarette in hand. Why would we want to prevent us cool people looking even cooler in public places? We’re living in a dictatorship imo 

[Xen]

16 minutes ago, Parafox said:

How would it be policed if it's an overall ban on smoking outdoors?

It's only for venues which have 'expanded' outdoors, so restaurants and the like. From what I recall when this was mentioned in my work (another local authority not included in the 6) the other day, its only guidance and won't be enforceable. The onus is on the venues themselves to police it.

Edited 6 June 2021 by Xen

[Parafox]

22 minutes ago, Parafox said:

I understand that and I would agree with it, if it became policy. I was aiming my comment at those saying smoking should be banned in all outdoor spaces. Impossible.

 

13 minutes ago, Xen said:

It's only for venues which have 'expanded' outdoors, so restaurants and the like. From what I recall when this was mentioned in my work (another local authority not included in the 6) the other day, its only guidance and won't be enforceable. The onus is on the venues themselves to police it.

 

[Sharpe's Fox]

More grief from smokers who must be one group above all others who perceive some sort of injustice towards them. Some of them can be complete bams. Take your death sticks and your yellow teeth somewhere else.

[Soup]

Although I don't particularly enjoy breathing in 2nd hand smoke I'd rather they ban Deliveroo riders using the city centre pavements. It's getting ridiculous the speed they go to get a cheeseburger to some lazy arse.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Blows my mind people still smoke in 2021. Crazy.

[Unabomber]

11 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Blows my mind people still smoke in 2021. Crazy.

I often think this, why do they smoke? 

[Manwell Pablo]

24 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

I often think this, why do they smoke? 

If you give it a go for two weeks and try and stop you’ll soon find out. I’d not recommend it like.

[fuchsntf]

Never understood the Need to put a mashed Leaf between a piece of Paper & Set Light to it, then Inhale it in....

 

I am Happy with smoke free Pubs,  restaurants, beer-gardens , cafes....

I would like to see astronomical fines, for leaving, or throwing away stub-ends........But..!!

We will need to accept  Hashi-bars,Smoking dens, & allow extended spaces for smokers...

Because it will Take Time for many to "want to adjust"

 

 

 

[Adster]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Blows my mind people still smoke in 2021. Crazy.

Agreed.

 

I have a friend who, when he goes on a night out, casually smokes. Even more of a fvcking retard as he's doing it literally for the bandwagon. 

Edited 6 June 2021 by Adster

[Sampson]

2 hours ago, Parafox said:

How would it be policed if it's an overall ban on smoking outdoors?

The article is a bit clickybaity I think. I heard them talk about the ban in Oxford on 5Live last week and my understanding is it means more in outdoor areas of pubs, restaurants, train stations etc. rather than just in the street 

I think a few European countries already banned it in outdoor seating areas of pubs and cafes a couple of years ago.

I'm all for it personally.

Edited 6 June 2021 by Sampson

[doverfox]

Thin end of the wedge, Blair talking about covid id cards to get into pubs and restaurants. So much for a free nation. Our civil liberties are being slowly eroded. What next breathing in public to be banned. 

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, doverfox said:

Thin end of the wedge, Blair talking about covid id cards to get into pubs and restaurants. So much for a free nation. Our civil liberties are being slowly eroded. What next breathing in public to be banned. 

Dunno, don't really think the civil liberty to breathe is the same as your civil liberty to deliberately breathe out harmful toxic gas forcing other people to breathe it in against their will.

[Houdini Logic]

1 hour ago, Soup said:

Although I don't particularly enjoy breathing in 2nd hand smoke I'd rather they ban Deliveroo riders using the city centre pavements. It's getting ridiculous the speed they go to get a cheeseburger to some lazy arse.

+1 for banning the Deliveroo cretins

[Manwell Pablo]

21 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Dunno, don't really think the civil liberty to breathe is the same as your civil liberty to deliberately breathe out harmful toxic gas forcing other people to breathe it in against their will.

What does your car run off?

[z-layrex]

Quit smoking for the 4th time last week, really hope I can kick it this time. Should be banned everywhere but your own garden, ****ing foul habit.

[yorkie1999]

4 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

More grief from smokers who must be one group above all others who perceive some sort of injustice towards them. Some of them can be complete bams. Take your death sticks and your yellow teeth somewhere else.

No, you go somewhere else where no one is smoking.