Maddison

[Guest SO1]

1 hour ago, mazarron fox said:

And you know the inner workings of the club how exactly? After last night the club might need to raise funds for a couple of center backs and Maddison is collateral damage 

Its a football forum(blank).

[urban.spaceman]

They've already moved on to someone else

 

 

 

[turlo]

The Mercury have just published some extra quotes from Rodgers on Maddison today. Mentions he's not been made aware of any bids and Rudders would inform him straight away if there was. 

 

“He’s a busy young guy now, he’s become a father, so he’s changing nappies and everything else,” Rodgers said. “James doesn’t change. He’s a wonderful young guy to work with.

 

“It is what it is, it’s gossip and speculation, so you can’t get too emotional with all of that. He’ll understand it’s the nature of this time of the season, with lots of stories going around. I know he’s very happy here and wants to be here.

“I haven’t spoken to him on it. I don’t need to speak around gossip and speculation. If anything ever comes to the club, Jon Rudkin will tell me straight away and I will deal with it then.

 

“There’s been nothing that’s come my way. As far as I’m concerned, we haven’t had anything for James.

“He’s a very talented player but also in the bigger picture, you’ve seen it, all clubs lose players but for us it’s not something we worry about.

“We’re a club that develops players and develops staff. Whenever those players and people develop, they’re always held in high regard.”

 

“What you know about Leicester City, when an organisation is a top organisation, is when players and staff get looked after. If that’s the benchmark, that’s what Leicester is all about, they look after their players and staff.

“James is a boy who has come here and developed and improved and become a very talented player. He’s improving all the time and still has more improvements to make. And he’s enjoying his time here.

“Apart from that, there’s not much more to say. For me, there’s not much to add.”

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/brendan-rodgers-gives-verdict-james-5749197?fbclid=IwAR0IQOL4EQiSfcfkUebfPZtjq7DorJRcdyg49FS3ulDQq8DFSqnxVrvz4WI

[sacreblueits442]

10 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

The inference is though that he, Rodgers, will have little say in whether Maddison leaves.He will continue to select him for the team as that is his job but if the club decides to sell he cannot veto that decision. It makes team planning a short term thing at best.

...you could be right, but that doesn’t come across in that way to me!!!

   There is not that much he can say or want to say in his position, so batting away the question as best he could.

  I have heard of managers not having full control of their players coming and going.  It sounds ridiculous as the manager has to make the team work how he imagines it to be. How or why owners seek to put themselves in positions, that although they may finance, they have no right to be in.

[Vardinio'sCat]

I like the fact he is a father, surely the bright lights of London are not really on his mind at the mo.

[ARM1968]

32 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

I like the fact he is a father, surely the bright lights of London are not really on his mind at the mo.

Easier to get Gucci Baby down there mate. Harrod’s does some great stuff for kids, as do many places if you’ve got his kind of wedge coming in. 
 

Mind you, I just get everything delivered now and just stay locked away on my private estate 😁

Edited 6 August 2021 by ARM1968

[ClaphamFox]

If we take Rodgers at his word (and I don’t see why we shouldn’t), then we can conclude that either we haven’t received an offer for Maddison, or we have received an offer but it was so pathetic that Rudkin didn’t even bother to mention it to Rodgers. There’s just no evidence at this stage that Arsenal are serious about signing him.

 

interestingly, some Arsenal fans seem to be taking the fact that Rodgers didn’t issue a firm ‘not for sale’ warning over Maddison as evidence that we’re secretly desperate to flog him to them, and that therefore his hip problem must be more serious than we’re letting on. A lot of them are starting to panic 😂

Edited 6 August 2021 by ClaphamFox

[NewquayFox]

Villa fans on Twitter think they will get him for £60 million to replace Grealish.. 

[coolhandfox]

After watching Grealish go for 100m anyone who thinks we are selling maddions for less then 70m+ is deluded. 3 year left on his contract no release clause. 

 

JG PL Games 96, 15 g, 16 a

JM PL Games 98  21 g, 15 a

 

Those stats and some LCFC fans don't rate JM whilst Villa fans thought JG was a god.

 

Unbelieve Jeff......

Edited 6 August 2021 by coolhandfox

[Dahnsouff]

Grealish had a release clause and Man City met it, the situations are not comparable

[FoxesWalk]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Grealish had a release clause and Man City met it, the situations are not comparable

Pepe went for £72m (not a release clause, Arsenal were actually outbid by Napoli, but the player wanted Arsenal). I’d be using that as a yard stick tbh. Add the English premium too. 

[coolhandfox]

4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Grealish had a release clause and Man City met it, the situations are not comparable

No, but it does effect the market. 

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, FoxesWalk said:

Pepe went for £72m (not a release clause, Arsenal were actually outbid by Napoli, but the player wanted Arsenal). I’d be using that as a yard stick tbh. Add the English premium too. 

That tells you something else too though, player power/preference is a serious factor in such transfers, I.e.; if Maddison wants to go and the price is not daft, he may be allowed.

I would worry about Rodgers opinion on such a deal though

[mozartfox]

22 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

That tells you something else too though, player power/preference is a serious factor in such transfers, I.e.; if Maddison wants to go and the price is not daft, he may be allowed. I would worry about Rodgers opinion on such a deal though

Do you really think Rudders and Top would sell a player that BR wants to keep, bearing in my we are told 'we do not have to sell'?

[lcfc sheff]

47 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

After watching Grealish go for 100m anyone who thinks we are selling maddions for less then 70m+ is deluded. 3 year left on his contract no release clause. 

 

JG PL Games 96, 15 g, 16 a

JM PL Games 98  21 g, 15 a

 

Those stats and some LCFC don't rate JM whilst Villa fans thought JG was a god.

 

Unbelieve Jeff......

Jesus when you look at the stats… we’d be stupid to sell him less than £90m

[turlo]

According to Tanner no approaches have been made for Madders

 

https://twitter.com/RobTannerLCFC/status/1423418033339609095?s=20

[yorkie1999]

37 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

No, but it does effect the market. 

 

 

It would if another Man City were after Maddison.

[Big Dave]

I can’t see us selling Maddison following Little Wes’s injury. Ndidi may well play centre back, Mendy is injured, and we will need the extra cover in midfield.

[drumbeat]

I'm sure transfers are a balancing act (and not just in terms of structured deals with a kind of 'chain', as in house sales) The manager might not want to lose a player but equally needs players. They also only want motivated and focused players; a player that wants away is a half a player.

 

So Rodgers might well say to Ruskin that he doesn't want to sell players a,b and c but needs a CB (say) and players x,y and z would do. If Ruskin (and his team) can wangle that and keep the clubs accountants happy then well and good. If not, then they have a decision to make on which players the manager can work without AND are saleable (and quickly enough) to raise any required funds.

 

In fairness, all that is a devil of of a job and I completely understand that it's outside BR's remit (you don't even want him distracted by it!) The club is a team, BR hands over his requirements list (if I can put it like that) to another part of the team and trusts in them to do their part. In that respect, he has little involvement in player transfer (and understandably so) and I think his comments made (re Maddison) reflect that situation. They shouldn't be interpreted more broadly than that. The seemingly noncommittal nature of them reflects the reality of the process and not his personal desire.

 

As mentioned upstream, Fofana's injury has put us in a bit of a spot (to put it mildly) and one that might mean we are more open to selling (and selling relatively quickly) to meet more urgent needs. We haven't the time to hang around waiting for bids on players that won't raise the needed funds anyway; the prize possessions could be in the window (in a pecking order no doubt) That's the business end of football.

 

That said, I personally am not expecting Maddison to go. I think we'll find the funds to get another CB in (maybe forgoing the winger requirement for now) and see how we get on until the next window. As I say, a balancing act.

Edited 6 August 2021 by drumbeat

[FoxesWalk]

We are the best team in England who would start Maddison every week at the moment. No idea why he would move right now tbh. Aside from money. 
 

Liverpool don’t play a 10, he maybe wouldn’t even make the match day squad at Man City, he’d be understudy to Bruno at United, and would rotating behind a number of attackers at Chelsea if he went there, and Mount is nailed as their attack minded midfielder. Arsenal (where ESR has the #10 shirt) is basically his best other option, and they are consistently worse than Leicester in recent years. If he moves now, its for money and lifestyle. It’s a sidestep at best and in pure footballing terms a step down at the present time. Moving to Arsenal or Villa is not a huge gap at the moment IMO, in footballing terms - and there is no way he is going to Villa.
 

Can see him going next year if they get European football. 

Edited 6 August 2021 by FoxesWalk

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Do you really think Rudders and Top would sell a player that BR wants to keep, bearing in my we are told 'we do not have to sell'?

...I do get the impression that if Maddison went then Rodgers would not be fussed!!!

  Rodgers has perhaps the teams biggest asset of which he has little control of. If we could sell and bring someone in to replace him with some spare for a Right Winger then Rodgers would  be fine.

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

 

 

Edited 6 August 2021 by sacreblueits442
Double post.

[drumbeat]

I'd be surprised if any manager wanted to lose a player of Maddison's creativity.

[FoxesWalk]

2 minutes ago, drumbeat said:

I'd be surprised if any manager wanted to lose a player of Maddison's creativity.

It’s Leicester, if he goes, it’s for enough money that our team will be stronger as a result. 
 

I don’t think he will leave this summer. But if he does, I trust the club to get the right players in with the cash. 

[Corky]

2 hours ago, turlo said:

According to Tanner no approaches have been made for Madders

 

https://twitter.com/RobTannerLCFC/status/1423418033339609095?s=20

Not surprised, we've had weeks of speculation about nothing.