The Ref

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, LVocey said:

Refereeing standards have really hit a low in this country.

Madley was awful last night. He had a really good position for the Morton challenge and bottled it. There’s no way he doesn’t see how bad that foul is from the position he is.

In general, we lack good brave referees. People slag off Mike Dean, and rightly so at times, but he at least has the balls to make big decisions. There’s a new crop that just seem so easily swayed by player/manager/location.

They always have, lets be honest. We had 20 years of Fergie and Keane basically bullying referees into decisions. In Fergie's time you knew full well the away side wouldn't be getting anything from the referee.

[turlo]

4 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Christ that tackle on Ricardo is damning - did BR mention it? With the Jota elbow as well you can’t help but feel the game was rigged to benefit a weakened home team. Big team bias again?

 

But VAR was being used right? Last season it looks at everything in minute detail and now it seems to be used to backup all on field decisions. Why can’t they find the middle ground?

he kicked off about the ref on Radio Leicester. Not sure about the post match press conf as its not been reported anywhere 

[turlo]

Can't find any clips of the jota elbow on Thomas out there as no highlights other than the goals/big chances. looked a shocker at the time

[Spudulike]

51 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

And where was one of our journos asking klopp about Morton’s tackle compared to hamzas ‘career ending’ challenge on salah a few seasons back ? 
 

nowhere 

 

no shock 

That was the soft German providing the media with the headline to deflect from Mane's dive to 'win' a stoppage time penalty. The journo's play along to stay in favour. Sick of it. 

[lcfc_forever]

Hope he raises it also in his next press conference, that might help to get more scrutiny around those appalling decisions.

 

The referee's assistant absolutely bottled it. 

[Jaspa]

16 minutes ago, turlo said:

Can't find any clips of the jota elbow on Thomas out there as no highlights other than the goals/big chances. looked a shocker at the time

It's so easy aswell. If anyone here streams on PC, and you were to download something called Acestream, find a site which gives out the codes to stream a particular game. You could then record everything from the stream and clip bits off to use elsewhere ... now I've never actually done this before and I'm not saying you should ... but if you wanted to this is the way to do it. Acestream on PC, record the games, clip bits off

 

I don't even have a functional rig anymore so it would be difficult and expensive.

 

Someone needs to pluck this Thomas getting elbowed thing up anyway. History is written by the winners and if you let events get scrubbed and slide away people get an unbalanced view of reality. *Bleeeep* the press who whitewash their dirt, and *bleeeeeep* Klopp for being a hypocrite.

[BoyJones]

Klopp is the new Fergy. Taken over his arrogant, cheating and bullying mantle. Never have liked him, no class. 
 

He’s happy for his team to perpetrate leg breaking tackles, but got forbid any other team getting stuck into his players. The deliberate elbow was nasty and would have been broadcast over all the media if it had been Thomas on Jota. 
 

Tardelli over at Inter definitely hit the nail on the head with his comments about Liverpool this week. 
 

Let’s hope we have a strong ref next week, but I ain’t holding my breath. 

[fazzyfox]

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Made this freeze frame off the TV, it's not so much the jumping in like Kanes & Robertsons on Sunday it's the way Mortons right knee slams into the back of Ricardos left knee at force, naturally your knee and lower leg would be knocked forwards except it can't go forwards because the c*** has pinned the lower leg with his other leg in a scissor tackle. The knee and leg want to go elsewhere but can't because the leg is being anchored to the ground. With knee injury recovery your looking at Stability, strength and flexibility, it's the stability I fear for here. If you're tackling round someone, winning the ball with your left leg that's one thing but the slam from the knee and the scissoring is what makes it particularly dangerous. Once Madley lets it go as a yellow he's setting the gauge for the rest of the game, no surprise there were further incidents. Are we going to reach the point where you base your team-sheet on who the ref is? Just praying for good news on Ricardo.

 

We hear that Liverpool fans have a legendary "knowledgeable of the game" fair minded approach, applauding opposition etc, well I really felt for their young Elliott getting injured earlier this season just as his career was blossoming, it was horrible to see, are we going to see any honesty from them here or elsewhere and admit it's a shocker? 

[turlo]

clip of the Jota elbow below. Didn't even get a free kick!

 

 

[lcfc_forever]

Good follow up from Arlo as well: 

 

 

[sishades]

On 20/11/2021 at 18:03, Unabomber said:

I know the fans were bad today and the team was awful and Brendan got pretty much everything wrong but this little ref today was shocking. Surprised there isn’t a thread on him already. 

The fans were bad? 5000 turned up! The team were great until our players got assaulted and BR had a brain fart. The ref was shite though.

[Hollism]

11 minutes ago, sishades said:

The fans were bad? 5000 turned up! The team were great until our players got assaulted and BR had a brain fart. The ref was shite though.

You’re quoting Una from a month ago mate

[Corky]

7 hours ago, ttfn said:

Hamza’s was a garden variety tactical foul, the sort you see 3 times a game - let’s not forget that.

 

The Morton tackle yesterday is one of the worst I’ve seen in years. That’s a red card in the pre-PL era let alone today. 

Sort of challenge Milner absolutely loves.

 

The lack of noise around Morton's lunge is pathetic. But then it's Ricardo and not Mo Salah, isn't it?

[cruzFOX]

I want some serious karma coming Liverpool’s way I really do. Lost all respect for their players, fans and manager.

when will our foxes stop being the nice guys finishing last? Time to stand up and be angry!

[Spudulike]

I'm hoping that we'll be giving Jota a few words of encouragement on the 28th 

[mozartfox]

If and when BR gets the call from the FA, can someone on here please send him all the relevant clips that prove this Referee is absolutely not fit for purpose and brought the game into disrepute.

 

If FT are putting up a poll for Foxestalk 'Bell-end of the Year 2021' award, stick me down for Kloppers.  Total C++t.

[Vestan Pance]

I'm not surprised by the ref, it's been happening like that for years against Liverpool and Man U etc, for as long as I've watched the game. We experienced one season at the top and it clearly brings with it more favourable decisions from referees. That's right, one season we get decent treatment and we win the League. The cards are stacked.

 

 

Edited 23 December 2021 by Vestan Pance

[turlo]

1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said:

Good follow up from Arlo as well: 

 

 

Yes he's one of the few who's flagged this up. The morning show on talk sport didn't mention it and went with the title of Leicester Bottled it (ok we did) but I thought Simon Jordan would've loved to have another pop at Klopp this week for running his mouth off (he went in on him a few days back). 

[lcfc_forever]

16 minutes ago, turlo said:

Yes he's one of the few who's flagged this up. The morning show on talk sport didn't mention it and went with the title of Leicester Bottled it (ok we did) but I thought Simon Jordan would've loved to have another pop at Klopp this week for running his mouth off (he went in on him a few days back). 

Yeah, we need our other outriders in the media to be kicking up a fuss over this so more people pay attention.

 

Problem is its the Carabao Cup combined with it being Liverpool and not wanting to take away attention what's been positioned as their great comeback when the facts don't tell that story. 

Edited 23 December 2021 by lcfc_forever

[Guest Kopfkino]

Beyond awful. They may still be useless twats even with VAR but a great example of why VAR is needed, at least we stand a chance of getting to an obviously correct decision.

 

The Morton one isn’t even difficult, you can see it instantly on TV and with the view Madley has, there’s really no excuse. Although, VAR didn’t manage to send off Kane or Tarkowski earlier in the season, both also challenges in the category of nobody wanting to see that type of tackle in football.

 

The Jota one is more forgivable but as soon as you see the replay you can see exactly what nasty little **** is doing and he has form for it.

 

One day somebody with the right values, a bit of leadership skill and an ownership mindset will head up PGMOL and give it half a chance of doing alright but no chance of anything getting any better whilst the spindly shit currently in charge remains.

[don_danbury]

 i remember the 2 pens that liverpool got years ago that were never pens. then you have the dive from mane a few years ago and this crap ref last night. seems to happen every time and i bet other smaller sides suffer from this.

[Dan]

10 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

Rodgers calling the ref out is definitely a deflection technique from himself but he was right. 

 

I missed the Jota one, i must have left the room when that happened, but the Morton tackle should be a red. Rodgers should've been running down the pitch to make sure the ref knew how bad it was, Klopp would have done. Having VAR has made them complacent with tackles I think. 

Honestly - I wish he did it a bit more. I think when you get to a certain level there's a bit of a battle here and you have to use this to your advantage. It gets you more decisions over time.

[Corky]

Just now, Dan LCFC said:

Honestly - I wish he did it a bit more. I think when you get to a certain level there's a bit of a battle here and you have to use this to your advantage. It gets you more decisions over time.

Agreed, Rodgers has got some clout in the media, they listen to him.

 

He should air his grievances.

[Dan]

VAR wouldn't have fixed anything. No reds would've been given. We've seen it all before. We have the most corrupt and indefensible officials of any major league nowadays. At least the Italians actually lifted the lid on their scandal.

[davieG]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10340155/Fans-FUME-Liverpools-Tyler-Morton-escapes-red-card-awful-challenge-Ricardo-Pereira.html

 

Fans FUME after Liverpool youngster Tyler Morton escapes red card for 'awful challenge' on Leicester defender Ricardo Pereira in Carabao Cup quarter-final victory for Reds