The Ref

[KrefelderFox666]

11 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

The referee won Liverpool that game, that’s how awful he was. Missed two red cards, and ignored endless free kicks to us. Penalised Leicester continually. Didn’t stop the game after Thomas sustained a head injury (courtesy of Jota’s elbow.) 

The biggest problem is, if we would have finished the job, the ref's performance would have been irrelevant. We gave him the opportunity to win them that game. I was there so unable to judge on the key decisions but sounds like it was as bad as it looked.

[fox_favourite]

It’s funny how nowhere those challenges aren’t highlighted. If that was say Ndidi on Henderson it would be main news. 
 

The ref sounded appalling and how he can claim non bias is beyond me. Miss one, okay I’ll let that slide but 3, 3 bad tackles?! 

Edited 23 December 2021 by fox_favourite

[funkyrobot]

Just now, KrefelderFox666 said:

The biggest problem is, if we would have finished the job, the ref's performance would have been irrelevant. We gave him the opportunity to win them that game. I was there so unable to judge on the key decisions but sounds like it was as bad as it looked.

Yeh Vardy hitting the post was a key moment but the ref was appalling

[StanSP]

Agree with a lot of what has been said. 

 

Klopp's comments from the weekend almost premeditated a favourable performance from the officials for his club. 

 

Three key decisions. 

 

Morton on Pereira. How has the linesman not seen how high and reckless that tackle is? Fine if Madley can't see it but how is the assistant not waving his flag in fury? The fact only a yellow was given makes me think they didn't want to disrupt the game or upset the beloved Liverpool. 

 

Jota on Thomas. Again, right in front of the linesman. Don't think the refs view was obscured either. What did they see? Did they think Thomas went down with no contact? 

 

Konate on Albrighton. Again, what did they see? Yes both players go flying in but Konate's studs connect with Albrighton's shin. And look where the ball went. No Konate connection. 

 

It really was a shameful performance. Wasn't the sole reason we lost the game, however if they have a red card that early on it more than likely changes the complexion of it. 

[Hales]

Appalling from the referee.  Bowed down to Klopp after his telling off. Ridiculous to have him as referee straight after that match.  We moan about the players not being tough enough but part of me really wanted Brendan to show some grit and throw a klopp strop at the ref after those 3 key incidents, especially poor Ricardo. Disgraceful refereeing.

[fazzyfox]

15 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

The referee won Liverpool that game, that’s how awful he was. Missed two red cards, and ignored endless free kicks to us. Penalised Leicester continually. Didn’t stop the game after Thomas sustained a head injury (courtesy of Jota’s elbow.) 

That's the biggest one for me, player safety over-rides everything else, if they're not safe in a game on your watch you shouldn't be out there officiating. I can only think he didn't see it, I see the linesman is looking away too, but he should see it, if not he needs work on his positioning, fitness and angles and footballing common sense that sometimes when the ball moves on there can still be an impact. I remember a few years ago managers reached the point of saying their players weren't safe under games reffed by Stuart Attwell as he was missing so many things and setting a high temperature gauge by letting things go unpunished. I thought he'd been finished by that but like the t**d that won't flush away he's come back to ruin more top level games, now Madley my other arch nemesis has a clone, as if one Madley wasn't enough and just when you thought it was safe to think he'd gone there he is younger and more naive than first time round.

 

We know what Klopp is like, yes we're biased but it provoked a rare reaction from Rodgers, I'm interested in the national media reaction today....will they be interested or if at the stadium were they just swept away by the home crowd noise and the comeback? 

[StanSP]

Seriously, gets worse each time. 

Ref has a better view of it than I first thought. Disgusting. 

 

 

[RowlattsFox]

Rodgers calling the ref out is definitely a deflection technique from himself but he was right. 

 

I missed the Jota one, i must have left the room when that happened, but the Morton tackle should be a red. Rodgers should've been running down the pitch to make sure the ref knew how bad it was, Klopp would have done. Having VAR has made them complacent with tackles I think. 

[LVFox]

Refereeing standards have really hit a low in this country.

Madley was awful last night. He had a really good position for the Morton challenge and bottled it. There’s no way he doesn’t see how bad that foul is from the position he is.

In general, we lack good brave referees. People slag off Mike Dean, and rightly so at times, but he at least has the balls to make big decisions. There’s a new crop that just seem so easily swayed by player/manager/location.

[LVFox]

Awful freezeframe quality but look at how good the ref’s positioning is for it.

He cannot use “didn’t see it properly” as an excuse. It’s a stonewall red.

[phoneticerror]

On 20/11/2021 at 18:04, FrankieADZ said:

tbf its expected now for me, once again another honking performance from a ref and nothing is done, no accountability for them, he'll get another game next week,

seems like the only job in the world were you can do crap and not even get told

Sounds like Bertrand and Vestergaard.

[shailen]

Why wasn't their VAR in place? No excuse for it not being used! 

[UniFox21]

7 minutes ago, LVocey said:

Awful freezeframe quality but look at how good the ref’s positioning is for it.

He cannot use “didn’t see it properly” as an excuse. It’s a stonewall red.

I'm genuinely worried that's done ligament damage to him again. The fact it's his knee and the way it bends inwards.

 

But look at the ref, plane sight can see he's off the ground. Ridiculous

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

Can’t see any reporting of the horror tackle or the ****ing ELBBOW to the face! 
 

How has that been missed. 

[Hales]

3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Can’t see any reporting of the horror tackle or the ****ing ELBBOW to the face! 
 

How has that been missed. 

It hasn't been missed more likely ignored! If it was the other way around it would be everywhere this morning and everyone would be clamouring to speak to Klopp. Appalling!

[Aus Fox]

The other one is the similar challenge on Albrighton, which wasn’t even given as a free kick. If any of the three were the other way around we wouldn’t here the end of it from Klopp. 

[st albans fox]

And where was one of our journos asking klopp about Morton’s tackle compared to hamzas ‘career ending’ challenge on salah a few seasons back ? 
 

nowhere 

 

no shock 

[RowlattsFox]

Needs to be said how dirty that tackle was as well by the way, almost blind side of Ricardo and I don't think he saw it coming. He's only a kid but that's no excuse. 

[UniFox21]

11 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

The other one is the similar challenge on Albrighton, which wasn’t even given as a free kick. If any of the three were the other way around we wouldn’t here the end of it from Klopp. 

Mate, Klopp would've been on the pitch had that happened to one of his 

[Guest ttfn]

15 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

And where was one of our journos asking klopp about Morton’s tackle compared to hamzas ‘career ending’ challenge on salah a few seasons back ? 
 

nowhere 

 

no shock 

Hamza’s was a garden variety tactical foul, the sort you see 3 times a game - let’s not forget that.

 

The Morton tackle yesterday is one of the worst I’ve seen in years. That’s a red card in the pre-PL era let alone today. 

[davieG]

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah  Get your priorities right  the big media story is how Liverpool's Academy with all their injured players beating Leicester's 1st Eleven.

 

 

[Vacamion]

 

I just read The Times report on the match by Paul Joyce.

 

Doesn't mention Morton’s tackle, let alone the other stuff, in the main report, and it only refers to referee decisions in quotes in a separate report about the managers’ post game comments.

 

 

 

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

38 minutes ago, Hales said:

It hasn't been missed more likely ignored! If it was the other way around it would be everywhere this morning and everyone would be clamouring to speak to Klopp. Appalling!

Remember his tantrum on Hamza when he made a basic tactical foul. Unbelievable.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Christ that tackle on Ricardo is damning - did BR mention it? With the Jota elbow as well you can’t help but feel the game was rigged to benefit a weakened home team. Big team bias again?

 

But VAR was being used right? Last season it looks at everything in minute detail and now it seems to be used to backup all on field decisions. Why can’t they find the middle ground?

Edited 23 December 2021 by Wasyls Pec Deck

[Fox92]

30 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Mate, Klopp would've been on the pitch had that happened to one of his 

Which is exactly what we need to do but we're to soft. Top managers don't put it up with stuff like this which is why they act mental when it happens (Klopp, Pep, Tunchel, Conte and all the way back to Mourinho etc).

 

It's okay Rodgers mentioning the referee on Radio Leicester but get it said in the national news and make people talk about it.