Pliskin Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 23 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side This is it. With Madders pushing as a 10 in possession. 1
Foxes96 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 25 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side 6 minutes ago, moore_94 said: I said in another thread this is what we should look to do, it get Madders back playing through the middle and also means we don't need to spend big on a Youri replacement If Brendan wants to he can still probably play the double pivot pair and possibly push Madders into a 10 and KDH played a lot deeper when at Luton as well - although I hope we don't do that and allow Wilf to do what he does best on his own Interesting dilemma. If we sign CDK and if it convinces Youri to stay (ie. Signing a new contract with a release clause for a champions league club). Who doesn’t start? KDH? Youri? CDK? Barnes with a diamond formation? Gives us plenty of options at least
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 4 minutes ago, Pliskin said: This is it. With Madders pushing as a 10 in possession. With CDK drifting inside thanks to being a lefty, there's going to be a lot of potential for overlaps down that right
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, Foxes96 said: Interesting dilemma. If we sign CDK and if it convinces Youri to stay (ie. Signing a new contract with a release clause for a champions league club). Who doesn’t start? KDH? Youri? CDK? Barnes with a diamond formation? Gives us plenty of options at least If good Tielemans signs then KDH makes way assuming CDK hits the ground running. KDH then slots in for whoever tires first. But Youri isn't staying. 2
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 15 June 2022 Popular Post Posted 15 June 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Foxes96 said: Interesting dilemma. If we sign CDK and if it convinces Youri to stay (ie. Signing a new contract with a release clause for a champions league club). Who doesn’t start? KDH? Youri? CDK? Barnes with a diamond formation? Gives us plenty of options at least Even with how much I love him I would probably say KDH Some of the best football and the best run of results we have seen with Rodgers was in 19/20 where we had a brilliant 1st half of the season and had a period of 15 games with 1 defeat and 13 wins in all competitions Our only defeat was Liverpool because of a dodgy penalty and also included the 9-0 win Our most used system during this was Wilf as a lone DM, with Youri and Madders as a pair of 8s Edited 15 June 2022 by moore_94 6
FoxinNotts Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 48 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side This looks really good. I hope it pans out like this, and all the talk of a ‘healthy re-build/re-shuffle’ is just a load of BS. I don’t want 6-7 changes. Keep it simple
Foxes96 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 16 minutes ago, JimJams said: If good Tielemans signs then KDH makes way assuming CDK hits the ground running. KDH then slots in for whoever tires first. But Youri isn't staying. 15 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Even with how much I love him I would probably say KDH Some of the best football and the best run of results we have seen with Rodgers was in 19/20 where we had a brilliant 1st half of the season and had a period of 15 games with 1 defeat and 13 wins in all competitions Our only defeat was Liverpool because of a dodgy penalty and also included the 9-0 win Our most used system during this was Wilf as a lone DM, with Youri and Madders as a pair of 8s I guess it comes down to opposition partly as well. Imagine against a Top 6 side KDH would likely come in for Maddison or CDK to bolster the midfield a bit with his work rate.
Paninistickers Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 30 minutes ago, Foxes96 said: Interesting dilemma. If we sign CDK and if it convinces Youri to stay (ie. Signing a new contract with a release clause for a champions league club). Who doesn’t start? KDH? Youri? CDK? Barnes with a diamond formation? Gives us plenty of options at least I'm amazed this is even considered a discussion. KDH is honest, enjoyable and a fab attitude...but is absolutely light years away from top half of the PL. , at best, top championship/bottom 5 prem 1
Sunbury Fox Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 26 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: This looks really good. I hope it pans out like this, and all the talk of a ‘healthy re-build/re-shuffle’ is just a load of BS. I don’t want 6-7 changes. Keep it simple Totally agree. If we can sort out the RW position and get our best players on the pitch for a normal amount of time across the season then we are definitely in the mix for top 6/7, I think.
justfoxes Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 We need to stop pi551ng about and get this lad signed if we’re genuinely interested in signing this lad before he’s stolen from under our noses whilst the recruitment team Keep Procrastinating over things !!
Dusty Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 4 minutes ago, justfoxes said: We need to stop pi551ng about and get this lad signed if we’re genuinely interested in signing this lad before he’s stolen from under our noses whilst the recruitment team Keep Procrastinating over things !! Or maybe he’s the one stalling whilst he’s on international duty? 1
Dan Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 6 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: If he wants to progress as a player - where does he go? Is it AC Milan? No idea on their player progression record, or us, where its decent, but could be declining. He would join several Belgians here, but there seems to be a few at AC Milan too. Despite their current resurgence, AC Milan are not the same team as "back in the day" and he is too young to remember those days, I would say its on a knife edge They aren't but they're a lot nearer to that than they were. This signing is another example of them starting to become sensible. The right type of profile. 1
Bptiger Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 2 hours ago, LFox99 said: Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side I think Maddison is not a player to play that roll , he doesn’t have the work rate to play deep , we would get over run in the midfield with him playing that roll .
Popular Post LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Popular Post Posted 15 June 2022 Just now, Bptiger said: I think Maddison is not a player to play that roll , he doesn’t have the work rate to play deep , we would get over run in the midfield with him playing that roll . Yet he's played it repeatedly this season and done well? 4 1
ToeKneeHandCock Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 16 minutes ago, Bptiger said: I think Maddison is not a player to play that roll , he doesn’t have the work rate to play deep , we would get over run in the midfield with him playing that roll . Think that’s harsh on him tbf. He does his share of the dirty stuff too
Dan Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 I like that side actually. It's really nicely balanced. 1 1
jayfox26 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 3 hours ago, LFox99 said: Have you not watched us last season? Maddison played as RW and 8 for pretty much the entire time bar a game or two where he actually got to be the dedicated #10 I watched us plenty thanks. And yes you're right that towards the end of the season he played rw/rm alot but that is nothing like playing as number 8. He only played deeper a few times last season as for the majority of games we had Tielemans and Ndidi/KDH. Playing rw, he still drifts inside and plays similar to when he plays 10 as Brendan clearly gave him freedom to roam around and find space. Playing deeper, he'd have more defensive responsibility which could potentially limit his output in goals and assists.
The_77 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 8 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: I watched us plenty thanks. And yes you're right that towards the end of the season he played rw/rm alot but that is nothing like playing as number 8. He only played deeper a few times last season as for the majority of games we had Tielemans and Ndidi/KDH. Playing rw, he still drifts inside and plays similar to when he plays 10 as Brendan clearly gave him freedom to roam around and find space. Playing deeper, he'd have more defensive responsibility which could potentially limit his output in goals and assists. When Ndidi is in the lineup, Maddison will still get into plenty of advanced positions when playing in midfield— we’ve watched that for several seasons. One could argue that Maddison would be even more effective in a slightly deeper option if he has other offensive weapons on the pitch with him. I think need him to be on the ball more, not less, which we get when we play him in the middle. 1
jim5000 Posted 15 June 2022 Posted 15 June 2022 Ndidi, KDH, and Madders is far to lightweight and would get steam rollered more often than not. 6-0 away to West Ham if we start with that trio 2 2
LFox99 Posted 16 June 2022 Posted 16 June 2022 16 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Ndidi, KDH, and Madders is far to lightweight and would get steam rollered more often than not. 6-0 away to West Ham if we start with that trio Literally how? We've played large parts of a season with Ndidi and Tielemans as a double pivot and it worked beautifully. Ndidi + Madders AND KDH would be more than plenty to get on with. Arsenal are playing a midfield 3 of Partey, Odegaard and Smith Rowe at times and it works ffs 2
Leeds Fox Posted 16 June 2022 Posted 16 June 2022 17 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Ndidi, KDH, and Madders is far to lightweight and would get steam rollered more often than not. 6-0 away to West Ham if we start with that trio I genuinely don’t think N’Didi, KDH and Maddison is a weak midfield trio overall. N’Didi, physically is as good as anyone in the middle. KDH gets around, hassles, strong in the challenge. Maddison gives you some creativity, isn’t as lightweight as his persona suggests. You can have 3 destroyers in the middle, but we won’t go for that under Rodgers. 2
Pliskin Posted 16 June 2022 Posted 16 June 2022 4 hours ago, jim5000 said: Ndidi, KDH, and Madders is far to lightweight and would get steam rollered more often than not. 6-0 away to West Ham if we start with that trio Not a chance. KDH lightweight? The lads probably our most combative midfielder. Playing madders as a high 8/10 could be a stroke of genius. He dropped deep a lot anyway when played centrally, it was solve the issue of playing 4-3-3 and not knowing where to play him. A midfield 3 of KDH N’didi and Madders is actually mouthwatering. 3
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 16 June 2022 Popular Post Posted 16 June 2022 8 hours ago, Bptiger said: I think Maddison is not a player to play that roll , he doesn’t have the work rate to play deep , we would get over run in the midfield with him playing that roll . We were literally 2nd in the league at Christmas with him playing at 8, in good form, with Rodgers proudly praising his defensive contributions. Will people please stop parroting this crap rhetoric. 17 1
coolhandfox Posted 16 June 2022 Posted 16 June 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: We were literally 2nd in the league at Christmas with him playing at 8, in good form, with Rodgers proudly praising his defensive contributions. Will people please stop parroting this crap rhetoric. Some of our best form since BR took over was with Maddison at 8. Maddison's work rate and defensive work is easily equal to Youri's, if not better. All this crap about a lightweight midfield go forward over the last 3 seasons we have been pretty good when Maddison, Tielemens and Ndidi have played together, hardly a bunch of bruisers Edited 16 June 2022 by coolhandfox 1
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