Rodgers In/Out

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

9 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Be releastic, it's not gonna happen. Are Watford/Norwich/Burnley gonna start winning every week?

They wouldn't have to win every week. And of course not all three of them would need to get past us for us to drop into the bottom 3.

 

Burnley will certainly get past our current points total. Norwich have picked up their form. Struggling to see us getting to upper 30s points at the moment.

 

So whilst probably not going to happen, it is still a possibility. Complacency is our enemy. That  - and a shit team amd manager at the moment. 😉

Edited 9 February 2022 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[norwichfox]

For the first time from me....out.

[J.Lisemore]

On 07/02/2022 at 10:52, Blanchflower78 said:

People saying "but who could do a better job"... sometimes a different approach, set up, voice, etc produces better. Managers have shelf lives at clubs and I would imagine BR comments about a summer refresh is his way of acknowledging his is close. A refresh allows him to install a new crop under his terms and a sense he's regaining control of a group hes clearly losing. So the wider question probably is will he survive until he gets the chance, or will Top see more merit in holding the group together largely but with another head coach in charge.

Bang on. We either give Rodgers a 'new team' or we keep the majority together and get rid of Rodgers. I think we need to wait and see whether his words are getting through to the players regarding 'fight, hunger etc'. If we finish in the top 10 and do well in the Europa Conference, I can see him staying. A big IF though. 

[Lako42]

7 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

Scenes  at spurs and utd when we hire poch and win the league. Imagine  that lol.

 

Not that i want poch here but that would be hilarious.

It would be hilarious because he's a loser who hasn't won a ****ing thing. 

[Lako42]

1 hour ago, rico said:

Gennaro Gattuso is reported to be under consideration by Leicester City as pressure grows on manager Brendan Rodgers after a poor run of form

Does putting it in a large text mean you don't have to supply a source for wild speculation? 

[Ian S]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

• £20m payoff
• No obvious better alternatives guaranteed to want the job
• Uncertainity on what has actually happened

£20m payoff is a total red herring. They would settle at a much lower figure or go down the road of effectively gardening leave and we stop paying him once he gets another job.His ego would not let him sit at home for years.

[Stadt]

There's not any benefit to getting rid in the summer rather than now. We need a rebuild, Rodgers' hand in recruitment has been toss so having him in charge for our biggest rebuild (ever?) in a while just isn't going to end well.

 

A new manager can come in, assess the state of the squad, where we need to improve and can get the wheels in motion for a restructuring; if we get a new manager in over the summer they come in blind.

 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Ian S said:

£20m payoff is a total red herring. They would settle at a much lower figure or go down the road of effectively gardening leave and we stop paying him once he gets another job.His ego would not let him sit at home for years.

If it was your money, would you gamble the 20m on that belief? 

[Ian S]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

If it was your money, would you gamble the 20m on that belief? 

It’s what happens, don’t understand your comment really, nothing stops the club putting him on gardening leave, it’s not like it’s never been done before.Can you see him sitting at home for the remainder of his contract and if he did it spreads the cost over a number of years and we don’t outlay a lump sum.

[Chrysalis]

Outsiders will look at firing him as us getting above our stead.  A lot of people refuse to believe in social mobility in football.

 

However for me it isnt the fact we mid table and out of the cup, I accept that for us what we have achieved is amazing, but the problem as I see it I can see the energy draining from the team as more and more time passes by, I see bad management of injuries, I see players who dont believe in the project anymore, and I see problems not been addressed.

 

Thats what it is about for me, every manager has a self life and I believe Brendan has reached his.  Outsiders wont understand this, but I dont expect them to.

 

I would accept keeping him until the summer, however one reason I think he had such a good start is he had the luxury of coming in the second half of a season, with no expectations during that period, and then knew by the transfer window what he wanted, vs someone coming in during the off season and not having the right preparation, especially if late summer.

[Ely fox]

13 hours ago, erlee said:

is LCFC bigger than Brighton?  

More money

Yes Leicester City are a bigger club than Brighton. 

[Deeg67]

1 hour ago, rico said:

Gennaro Gattuso is reported to be under consideration by Leicester City as pressure grows on manager Brendan Rodgers after a poor run of form

I've been Rodgers out since before it was cool, but that's a hard pass for me.  Not a bad manager, but not good enough to justify the utter troglodyte he is.

[Dahnsouff]

7 minutes ago, Ian S said:

It’s what happens, don’t understand your comment really, nothing stops the club putting him on gardening leave, it’s not like it’s never been done before.Can you see him sitting at home for the remainder of his contract and if he did it spreads the cost over a number of years and we don’t outlay a lump sum.

He may not want to be on gardening leave, but the recent performances may well give clubs he would consider pause, and 20m spread over many years is obviously better, but it's still 20m.

 

Agreed that its preferable but let's not pretend it is some sort of get out of jail card. 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, rico said:

Gennaro Gattuso is reported to be under consideration by Leicester City as pressure grows on manager Brendan Rodgers after a poor run of form

 

That would mean moving from a sociopath to a psychopath. That will be an interesting shift.

[Nick]

1 hour ago, rico said:

Gennaro Gattuso is reported to be under consideration by Leicester City as pressure grows on manager Brendan Rodgers after a poor run of form

Ah the bloke who "can't really see women in football" who doesn't like to say it... "but that's how it is" ?

 

Also an ex DCM - I don't want another manager obsessed with putting DCM's on the field - it's a no from me!

 

 

[Jaspa]

18 minutes ago, Stadt said:

There's not any benefit to getting rid in the summer rather than now. We need a rebuild, Rodgers' hand in recruitment has been toss so having him in charge for our biggest rebuild (ever?) in a while just isn't going to end well.

 

A new manager can come in, assess the state of the squad, where we need to improve and can get the wheels in motion for a restructuring; if we get a new manager in over the summer they come in blind.

 

 

What, like Ranieri?

 

I don't agree by the way, we might have eyes on someone who is in a job now and wants to finish their season off. The only way I would say sack him now is if internally the players say to get rid, because primarily we need to finish the season without throwing it into absolute disarray, we need to stay professional and organised.

 

We'd probably be down to Saddler & Stowell running the show until the end of the season. Which good managers are out there now looking for work? It's could be like the January transfer window this season, you only sign players teams want shot of anyway.

[5waller5]

35 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

If it was your money, would you gamble the 20m on that belief? 

No. Because it wouldn’t be a gamble, I’d have the contract in front of me to make an informed choice.

[rico]

1 hour ago, Lako42 said:

Does putting it in a large text mean you don't have to supply a source for wild speculation? 

Copy and pasted from Sky 😂

[lgfualol]

The players would go on strike if Gattuso joined, seagrave would go from a spa with a bit of football to training hell. 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

They wouldn't have to win every week. And of course not all three of them would need to get past us for us to drop into the bottom 3.

 

Burnley will certainly get past our current points total. Norwich have picked up their form. Struggling to see us getting to upper 30s points at the moment.

 

So whilst probably not going to happen, it is still a possibility. Complacency is our enemy. That  - and a shit team amd manager at the moment. 😉

Well of course they will. But I highly doubt we're gonna lose every game from tomorrow until the rest of the season.

There's too many poor teams for us to be even be in a relegation battle. Are you forgetting how bad the likes of Leeds and Brentford are, and they aren't even in the bottom 3.

On top of that everybody plays each other. Norwich have had two good league wins recently but next month have got Man City then Liverpool, back to back.

 

[Fox92]

14 hours ago, erlee said:

is LCFC bigger than Brighton?  

More money

What am I reading on here these days.

 

Of course we're bigger than Brighton and, for me, Potter would leave them for us. And I'm sure I've read before he's from the Midlands.

[erlee]

FFS..he is the 4th highest paid manager in the EPL...and we can't even be top 8 or 6 or 4

• 1. Pep Guardiola
  Club: Manchester City
  Base Salary: £20million
• 2. Jurgen Klopp
  Club: Liverpool
  Base Salary: £15million
• 3. Antonio Conte
  Club: Tottenham Hotspur
  Base Salary: £15million
• 4. Brendan Rodgers
  Club: Leicester City
  Base Salary: £10million

Edited 9 February 2022 by erlee

[Ian S]

54 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

He may not want to be on gardening leave, but the recent performances may well give clubs he would consider pause, and 20m spread over many years is obviously better, but it's still 20m.

 

Agreed that its preferable but let's not pretend it is some sort of get out of jail card. 

If he wants to continue in management there is no way it will cost us anywhere near £20m, however whatever the cost it is money we can ill afford especially with our most saleable assets decreasing in value by the game.

I am not advocating we relieve him of his duties, it’s just an option rather than straight forward sacking.At the moment one day I want him gone the next I reconsider.

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 hours ago, rico said:

Gennaro Gattuso is reported to be under consideration by Leicester City as pressure grows on manager Brendan Rodgers after a poor run of form

Well he might fit us.....

 

Sometimes maybe good, Sometimes maybe shit. 

[Ely fox]

20 minutes ago, Ian S said:

If he wants to continue in management there is no way it will cost us anywhere near £20m, however whatever the cost it is money we can ill afford especially with our most saleable assets decreasing in value by the game.

I am not advocating we relieve him of his duties, it’s just an option rather than straight forward sacking.At the moment one day I want him gone the next I reconsider.

I agree. Ndidi , Soyuncu and Barnes have all been underperforming under Rogers for months. And I’m sure there are other players in this category. Tielemans maybe.