Storm Eunice

[Milo]

50 minutes ago, murphy said:

Well if that's not a recipe for a 'sicky' I don't know what is.

 

Go back to bed.

Haha. It would be nice, but doesn’t really work like that, unfortunately. 

[leicsmac]

40 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It’s definitely not caused by climate change but I agree that across the globe, extreme weather events will become more commonplace because of the general rise in sea temperatures.  Incidentally, there are pretty decent arguments that for our part of nw europe, extreme windstorm weather events will become less commonplace.

 

on the subject of Eunice, it seems Leics will see max gusts 60/70 mph which is going to cause some problems but not ridiculously unusual.  Meanwhile the sting jet risk seems to be across se england (hence the red warning).  We will know by mid afternoon if there has been one (if there has then that will cause significant damage to property and trees). 

I'd be interested in knowing more about these arguments and how they may or may not fit into a worldwide trend.

 

From what I can tell, one of the biggest consequences of increased global temperatures is more extreme weather events - whether it be drought, flooding, winds or otherwise. These will have a massive cost to society, especially if they then lead to famine or thirst. (Not that that is likely in the UK, but it certainly is elsewhere and would have a global effect. )

[st albans fox]

26 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'd be interested in knowing more about these arguments and how they may or may not fit into a worldwide trend.

 

From what I can tell, one of the biggest consequences of increased global temperatures is more extreme weather events - whether it be drought, flooding, winds or otherwise. These will have a massive cost to society, especially if they then lead to famine or thirst. (Not that that is likely in the UK, but it certainly is elsewhere and would have a global effect. )

The arguments for the n Atlantic sector specifically - a less cold Arctic likely meaning a weaker n Atlantic jet stream. In addition, melting ice sheets will potentially lower the n Atlantic sea temps and the guys stream is already showing signs of weakening a little. 
 

whilst much of the world will be in big trouble, our little part of the world may well be a little climate oasis in comparison. Not that we can be an island …… well you know what I mean 

[TeamRocket]

In Bolton it seems to be okay but yesterday the lorry driver did say he nearly died getting to us cos of the wind.

[st albans fox]

One high resolution model is predicting a sting jet this afternoon across the e midlands - whilst unlikely to be right (as they are v unpredictable ), keep an eye out for the e midlands to come under the red warning over the next few hours.

[martyn]

Stay safe in Leicester, some models have the potential for a "sting jet" to pass pretty much smack bang over the east midlands some time after lunch.

 

 

[lcfc278]

I hope this sting jet thing doesn't materialise.

 

Part of me wants to experience it to see what it's like but then the other part of me can't be arsed to have to replace fence panels or roof tiles etc.

 

Unbelievably calm outside at the minute though, we'll see how it goes.

[SpacedX]

31 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

The arguments for the n Atlantic sector specifically - a less cold Arctic likely meaning a weaker n Atlantic jet stream. In addition, melting ice sheets will potentially lower the n Atlantic sea temps and the guys stream is already showing signs of weakening a little. 
 

whilst much of the world will be in big trouble, our little part of the world may well be a little climate oasis in comparison. Not that we can be an island …… well you know what I mean 

I think that the most concerning trend is the near complete loss of stability over the last century of natural ocean currents - the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC). These currents were already thought to have been at their slowest point in over 1,500 years, but current research indicates that the AMOC may be nearing a complete shutdown which is terrifying. Further weakening of the circulation could lead to more extreme weather events in Europe, including damaging storms across the UK, but it wouldn't simply affect Western Europe - it would mean catastrophe for billions of people around the world. Ironically, melting ice causes freshwater to be added to the seawater in the Arctic Ocean which flows into the North Atlantic making the seawater less dense. This has caused the North Atlantic to become fresher over the past several decades and has caused the currents to slow. If the Gulf Stream was to cease altogether, without our 'central heating' we would in the immediate sense experience very harsh frigid winters - as a consequence of global temperature increase. These systems are immensely complex, and the Gulf Stream is influenced by other ocean and air currents just as much as it exerts sway over them - but the likelihood of this collapse increases with every gram of CO2 that we put into the atmosphere.

[stripeyfox]

 

watching go around after go around on BigJet TV at Heathrow - glad I'm not on one of those aircraf!

[The Year Of The Fox]

7 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

 

watching go around after go around on BigJet TV at Heathrow - glad I'm not on one of those aircraf!

Just logged on to say the same thing-

 

Brilliant viewing! Three go arounds in a row I saw 

 

Wish I was sat at home with it and Flightradar24 😅🤓

Edited 18 February 2022 by The Year Of The Fox

[stripeyfox]

1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Just logged on to say the same thing-

 

Brilliant viewing! Three go arounds in a row I saw 

 

Wish I was sat at home with it and Flightradar24 😅🤓

There's some really heavy landings as well. I'd crap myself!

 

Another 777 from Nassau just aborted too!

 

[Lako42]

The guy is a bit annoying but interesting watching 

[Free Falling Foxes]

Everyone is advised to stay away from the sea front and what do the news channels do - have reporters on the sea front!

[RowlattsFox]

I think we're going to avoid the worst of it up here, for once, but forecast still looks pretty bad. Pissing it down at the minute but wind seems ok for now. Lost a fence panel the other day, expecting to lose the rest today as they aren't in the best condition anyway  

 

Hopefully a broken fence panel is the worst it gets. Stay safe people. 

[leicsmac]

45 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

One high resolution model is predicting a sting jet this afternoon across the e midlands - whilst unlikely to be right (as they are v unpredictable ), keep an eye out for the e midlands to come under the red warning over the next few hours.

Yeah, @Line-X has answered this one for me. 

 

I'll only add that what is covered in his post is merely the tip of the (no longer existent) iceberg concerning consequences of increased global average temperature.

 

I do wish people wouldn't write this stuff off as "just another day" and not look deeper at what's behind it.

[st albans fox]

[stripeyfox]

122mph recorded at the Needles which would be a record, I believe

 

[StanSP]

That YouTube guy is brilliant. The one from Nassau looked a bit choppy! 

[st albans fox]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Yeah, @Line-X has answered this one for me. 

 

I'll only add that what is covered in his post is merely the tip of the (no longer existent) iceberg concerning consequences of increased global average temperature.

 

I do wish people wouldn't write this stuff off as "just another day" and not look deeper at what's behind it.

But this storm is not the product of climate change - if you try and argue that it is then the nay sayers will prove that it isn’t and then the masses are turned off the whole debate because you are wrong on this micro point.  It’s not another day, just as all the notable wind storms going back over the past centuries haven’t been. 

[deejdeej]

30 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

 

watching go around after go around on BigJet TV at Heathrow - glad I'm not on one of those aircraf!

I'm absolutely hooked!

[Zear0]

1 minute ago, deejdeej said:

I'm absolutely hooked!

Same, that's an unbelievable landing from the Aegean A320 Neo (the flight sim nerds are out in force)

[stripeyfox]

3 minutes ago, deejdeej said:

I'm absolutely hooked!

It's a good channel anyway but really comes into it's own on a windy day. The guy can be a bit irritating but you can't fault his enthusiasm

 

[Lako42]

3 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Same, that's an unbelievable landing from the Aegean A320 Neo (the flight sim nerds are out in force)

It looked to be very heavy 

 

Used a lot of the suspension travel available 

[deejdeej]

6 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

It's a good channel anyway but really comes into it's own on a windy day. The guy can be a bit irritating but you can't fault his enthusiasm

 

I quite like him 

[RowlattsFox]

A genuine reason for a round of applause after landing