Ric Flair Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 12 minutes ago, John rayner said: We will get some result at ,PSV I thought they were poor ,Nd we won't park the bus like they did . Maybe they are just like us, absolutely abysmal away from home but mustard at home? I think can get a result but such confidence like this with how bad we've been away from home is quite the surprise. Out of interest just how bad would we have to be for you not to think we'd get a result? 😂
fuchsntf Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 15 hours ago, Hammo said: Too true. A wound self-inflicted through lack of foresight or perhaps even administrative incompetence. Let’s hope it doesn’t prove fatal. 95% of this forum Wanted him gone, Dont forget..!!
Chelmofox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 13 minutes ago, Wilfcho said: Now I get why he did it, Albrighton provides more defensive cover especially cause KDH is the most forward of the midfield trio but what he didn't see was that, it stunted out attacks, we would have been so much better with Maddison playing as the most forward of a midfield trio with KDH dropping back a bit to support Youri and still have Albrighton do his thing with Justin on the wings  He would have seen it - it would have been a pragmatic decision to try not to concede. Being stronger defensively, we no longer have to score 2 goals to stay in a match or score 3 to win it.  However, as we have to get some sort of result I expect tactics at some point to get more open.Â
Guest Lako42 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 (edited) Let's just hope that BR doesn't put his Pep Guardiola costume on again and start dicking around with egotistical tactics like playing with no striker for 15 minutes in a European quarter final.  We are capable of getting a hard fought result here but I want to see basic Rodgers, not strange Rodgers who makes ridiculous changes. Edited 12 April 2022 by Lako42
Shane Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 (edited) We need someone playing DM to sit back, link the play and allow our other midfielders to run the show. Ideally it would be Mendy, but as he’s unavailable the only other similar option is Soumare. He’s had some howlers yes, but he did ok in this role Vs Liverpool at home & Newcastle.  Schmeichel Ricardo Fofana Evans Castagne  Soumare Tielemans KDH Maddison  Daka/Iheanacho/Barnes/Lookman   Edited 12 April 2022 by Shane
Supergray22 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 I thought they were a very good well organised team who offered a threat from many areas. In return we played well particularly defensively. If we had played that match earlier in the season we would have lost. The most disappointing thing from our side was giving the ball away too easily and our play in the final third. It will be even tougher at their place but I do think we have another gear from what we showed last week and if we do that then it is going to be a great game. We badly missed Vardy.Â
majaco Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 We should make few or no changes from the first leg.
coolhandfox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 40 minutes ago, Lako42 said: Let's just hope that BR doesn't put his Pep Guardiola costume on again and start dicking around with egotistical tactics like playing with no striker for 15 minutes in a European quarter final.  We are capable of getting a hard fought result here but I want to see basic Rodgers, not strange Rodgers who makes ridiculous changes. I always find it interesting that when a manager tries an unusual tactic that doesn't work, it's deemed to be driven by arrogance or ego.  But if it works, it's a tactical masterstroke! 1
Strawberry_Jam Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 Without Mendy, I think we need some more soliditity, interchangeable between 4 and 3 at the back. Maddison playing further inside and not stuck out of the game like he kind of was against Palace.                      Schmeichel            Castagne Fofana Evans Ricardo, Tielemans Dewsbury-Hall Justin       Maddison Iheanacho Barnes 1
deep blue Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 31 minutes ago, Strawberry_Jam said: Without Mendy, I think we need some more soliditity, interchangeable between 4 and 3 at the back. Maddison playing further inside and not stuck out of the game like he kind of was against Palace.                      Schmeichel            Castagne Fofana Evans Ricardo, Tielemans Dewsbury-Hall Justin       Maddison Iheanacho Barnes  I wonder whether it would be a good idea to start Lookman instead of Barnes. On the basis of the first leg their RB will be expecting to have our LW in his pocket from the start so Lookman would present a different problem for him. Having Barnes available to be brought on later, hopefully when PSV were tiring, might be a late move that could decisively swing the match our way. 2
Ric Flair Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 I agree on the issue of a midfield 3 of KDH, Tielemans and Maddison. We have to get some form of a DCM in IMO. I have concerns about Soumare's lack of tracking though so I think this is a game for Hamza.
Guest Lako42 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: I always find it interesting that when a manager tries an unusual tactic that doesn't work, it's deemed to be driven by arrogance or ego.  But if it works, it's a tactical masterstroke! Not in this instance.  Playing without a striker or your midfielders in their natural position is just idiocy.  I don't think Pep is a genius when he does it and he has world class players all over the pitch. He's lost or drawn games where they have been toothless due to his 'genius'  BR doing it with our midfield was frankly ridiculous  Oh and you don't carry out your wacky experiments in that stage of European competition.Â
Ric Flair Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 Schmeichel  Ricardo Evans Fofana Castagne  Hamza Tielemans KDH  Maddison Iheanacho Lookman  2
Hammo Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 2 hours ago, fuchsntf said: 95% of this forum Wanted him gone, Dont forget..!! Is that right? You must have done some counting…  The Europa Conference League squad had to be submitted in early Feb - at a time when Mendy had played wonderfully in getting Senegal to the Africa Cup of Nations final (which they went on to win, with Mendy voted into the official Team of the Tournament). Was Rodgers watching him, or indeed getting advice to do so, I wonder?…  You can defend the decision to pick the likes of Soumare and Perez in the squad ahead of him all you like, but in my opinion - and I said it at the time, long before Ndidi got injured - making Mendy ineligible for Europe was a strange move. It even made me think back to Ajax accidentally leaving Haller out of their Europa League squad last year…  Let’s just hope his absence - and the control that he brings to our midfield - doesn’t come back to haunt us on Thursday. 🤞 1
Strawberry_Jam Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 48 minutes ago, deep blue said:  I wonder whether it would be a good idea to start Lookman instead of Barnes. On the basis of the first leg their RB will be expecting to have our LW in his pocket from the start so Lookman would present a different problem for him. Having Barnes available to be brought on later, hopefully when PSV were tiring, might be a late move that could decisively swing the match our way. yeah, I think I agree actually, that was one of the toss ups alongside Ricardo/Albrighton
Sunbury Fox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: I agree on the issue of a midfield 3 of KDH, Tielemans and Maddison. We have to get some form of a DCM in IMO. I have concerns about Soumare's lack of tracking though so I think this is a game for Hamza. I get what you are saying but the problem is that, unlike Mendy, Hamza is not comfortable receiving the ball from the defence or transitioning it quickly and efficiently to the likes of Youri and KDH. So not sure his inclusion is a good thing either. 1
PSV fan 1913 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: I think it's probably because we've shown relegation form away from home this season and it's been equally as iffy in the cups. How is your support in away games? 90 minutes full on with the entire away end or more in phases? 1
KFS Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 1 minute ago, PSV fan 1913 said: How is your support in away games? 90 minutes full on with the entire away end or more in phases? We play really well when the atmosphere is really good. Like raucous and flares and shit. So probably best if you don’t create an intimidating atmosphere at all because we’ll play badly then. Please pass this on 4
KrefelderFox666 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 1 minute ago, PSV fan 1913 said: How is your support in away games? 90 minutes full on with the entire away end or more in phases? Definitely phases (at best). We have had some good away ends but usually when we have been successful such as Randers and Rennes was good. However, if we lose, it goes flat very quickly.
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 3 hours ago, fuchsntf said: 95% of this forum Wanted him gone, Dont forget..!! ...did it actually get that high!!! Reactionary voters, you can't take much notice from a forum, straight after a disappointing result.Â
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 3 hours ago, Shane said: We need someone playing DM to sit back, link the play and allow our other midfielders to run the show. Ideally it would be Mendy, but as he’s unavailable the only other similar option is Soumare. He’s had some howlers yes, but he did ok in this role Vs Liverpool at home & Newcastle.  Schmeichel Ricardo Fofana Evans Castagne  Soumare Tielemans KDH Maddison  Daka/Iheanacho/Barnes/Lookman   ...apart from. KDH that is a midfield prone to have regular off days!!!
RowlattsFox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 I think its unlikely Soumare is going to come from nowhere and start this game. It will be a Tielemans, Maddison and Dewsbury-Hall 3 I'm sure of it. Choudhury is possible if he was to bring someone in.  Â
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 2 hours ago, Strawberry_Jam said: Without Mendy, I think we need some more soliditity, interchangeable between 4 and 3 at the back. Maddison playing further inside and not stuck out of the game like he kind of was against Palace.                      Schmeichel            Castagne Fofana Evans Ricardo, Tielemans Dewsbury-Hall Justin       Maddison Iheanacho Barnes ...not sure we should be looking to disturb the backline and still end up with Maddison not in his proper role!!!
majaco Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 So some advocate three at the back for this one. Three at the back has been heavily criticised on this forum.  Some want Soumare back...  Jeez   1
filbertway Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 26 minutes ago, majaco said: So some advocate three at the back for this one. Three at the back has been heavily criticised on this forum.  Some want Soumare back...  Jeez A lot of overthinking going on.  I feel like PSV will have the edge in this one. Home crowd in full voice, you'd imagine they'll give it a right go. Based on the fact we've been dog muck away from home most of the season, I can't help but seeing PSV run a train over us. All depends on how much bottle they have. They showed us far too much respect at our gaff. 1
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