Everton H post match

[StanSP]

Obviously saw it at the time but how and why the fvck were we using Evans as some kind of creator of crosses from deep

 

Man, things really aren't right. 

[Livid]

Individually no one was appalling, as a team we were poor. 
 

Everton had three chances and scored twice, we had our goal gifted to us, Pickford made a couple of good saves and Barnes put his header wide. 

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, justfoxes said:

Knew all along that craig Pawson allowed Gordon to dive and take down our players with No retribution then the second half comes along he goes down like Tom Daley and put comes a card for Amartey and the superb tackle by KDH a who got the ball can’t remember who then rolled around as If he’d broken his leg but poor officiating yet again ruined the game, mind you we didn’t really help ourselves we made Everton look good today Tielemans has to be dropped last few weeks he’s been so poor his passing woeful his tackling as bad it’s as if he’s left already !

 

Hope this lot pick themselves up before Wednesday if we lose to Norwich that’ll be one horrendous night and we can only thank god we have a few more points than the ones below otherwise it’ll be us looking over our shoulder !!

Today we witnessed a miracle. Everton's no. 19. Seriously 'injured' until he realised the ref wasn't stopping play and then sprang to life. 

[hejammy]

4 minutes ago, Livid said:

Individually no one was appalling, as a team we were poor. 
 

Everton had three chances and scored twice, we had our goal gifted to us, Pickford made a couple of good saves and Barnes put his header wide. 

I beg to differ. Youri and Barnes were on different level of appalling and have been for a while 

[Pliskin]

6 minutes ago, Livid said:

Individually no one was appalling, as a team we were poor. 
 

Everton had three chances and scored twice, we had our goal gifted to us, Pickford made a couple of good saves and Barnes put his header wide. 

Youri was appalling, he’s been appalling for most of the season.

[Unabomber]

Mendy was pretty good tbf 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

3 hours ago, hejammy said:

Honestly I'm not sure what has gone on with BR, but solely placing the blame with him is not acceptable. The players were almost calling their PAs to book their summer holidays whilst out there today. Effort was just not there and Madders can't defend that on social media this time. 

He's the manager , the buck stops with him. he is responsible for the tactics the subs and the overall attitude of the team. So yes he IS solely responsible and must take the blame.

[CosbehFox]

10 minutes ago, hejammy said:

I beg to differ. Youri and Barnes were on different level of appalling and have been for a while 

Barnes being asked to play a position he never has in his career might have had an influence on that 

[iancognito]

3 hours ago, Line-X said:

We know that we are still pathetically vulnerable to the set piece, so the second was no surprise. This is a very much a coaching issue and the adherence to zonal marking for two thirds of this season was borderline negligence. 

 

The first was the sort of strike I willingly pay money to see from either side and happy to stand up and applaud such a beautifully taken goal even though 99.9% of the time that's heading for row triple Z and Mykolenko's unlikely ever to do that again. He did have an aeon to set it up though. Also delighted to see some glory and cause for celebration for the young Ukrainian player. Shame about the injury.

 

I thought that was a very entertaining game. We weren't "abysmal" ffs, but I can see why the same loose passing, inability to close down the opposition or finish in the final third incenses our support and forum member, particularly since it's the same mistakes that are made week in week out. 

 

Football can be so ****ing negative. Comments like "lets send these c***s down" - I can't understand it. Yes Norwich are a non-entity and Burnley really have become the unflushable turd (Moor) of the Premier League, but why would you want to see a club with the pedigree of Everton relegated? A football club with at genuine sense of community and genuine local support - yeah the ownership is questionable (I'm referring chiefly to USM), but great to see Kenwright still there - a scouser himself and long term chairman and I also saw Toffees luminary Graham Sharp on the screen. The travelling support was excellent today and completely behind the team. They won't go down I'm pleased to say and I hope that they rebuild and can at least continue to offer an alternative to the obligatory LFC hegemony and glory support around the country that seems to have surpassed even Man U. 

 

A very disappointing season for us, but this result doesn't overly bother me since our season is done and it's a valuable three points for Everton which will probably go a long way to assure their survival. I would also suggest that if that glorious strike from Mendy or the shot form Barnes has gone in the 'Brendan Rodgers' thread wouldn't have been triggered and neither would our fickle fanbase. 

 

Of course the manager must shoulder some of the blame. I can't be arsed to work this out, but how many points has our inability to defend corners actually cost us this year? Hypothetically speaking, how many places in the table? Someone? It's also our inability to see out a game - late equalisers. I'm still emotionally scarred following the disaster against Spurs - I literally fled. I ran out of the stadium at full time and didn't stop running until I'd reached Vicky Park. 

 

We simply lack both the quality and depth to wage a European campaign. The fact that we have even been challenging for European entry and until recently CL qualification is admirable. I think that a season to concentrate solely on the league and domestic cup competitions is precisely what we need. Some prudent transfer activity this summer would be most welcome too - and that in honesty is my greatest concern - recruitment. 

 

Anyway, congratulations to Everton and kudos to their travelling fans today. 

1.) I don't really want to hear about footballing pedigree or the tradional hierarchy of the game. It means absolutely nothing. No-one has a god-given right to be in the top flight and the likes of Sheff Wed, Forest and Sunderland being outside the Prem hasn't made the league poorer. Whatever your fanbase or history, the table doesn't lie. Poor teams deserve to drop.

2.) We'd be comfortably top 6, maybe higher

[hejammy]

12 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

He's the manager , the buck stops with him. he is responsible for the tactics the subs and the overall attitude of the team. So yes he IS solely responsible and must take the blame.

Well we will have to agree to disagree then. Players already thinking they are on holiday (or already have their 'dream move' sorted and bring lazy) is all the mangers fault? 

[hejammy]

12 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Barnes being asked to play a position he never has in his career might have had an influence on that 

OK so how about the last couple of months in his 'usual' position? What's the excuse for that? 

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Gerrard! He’s going nowhere till he gets the Liverpool or the England job I suspect.

I’d not be surprised if he has Villa top 6/7 next season 

It was more a retorical question...

Gerrard has life's planned path to follow,which Will end up at Anfield.

Lampard After a shaky career beginning, might find Everton his first successful 2-5 season calling..

 

Foxes Players & manager, Really Read & got it wrong today....

They have to accept First they have a big problem, pyschologically,Mentally, depending Lack of Basic Skills set, total Lack of game understanding...

Again from me Not und result, But Aptitude, weird Translation of attitude  & simple question on capabilities of bringing on  a performance..

Rodgers has been giving them letters they can neither read or understand, getting lost in the post, or dear Johns, are just not acceptable at this Stage of the season & past few games..

Plus fans must ask themselves, were we sold a runt,

and fooled ourselves into believing in Tielemans we had invested into a Top Quality player...

 

His memories of his last 14 months  Stint at Leicester, will be interesting reading...

I Dont Think one Player has been shown so much patience & belief,

though  only occasionally delivering Quality days, never took a game by the Scruff.. or period of games consistently enough,

maybe less than 15-18% of the time.

One was Yes the FA.cup, Plus some were in his First maybe 8 playing months...

In Vardy we saw a player Drop form,But then smack back with a vengence...Maddison sort of also  took that Mantra on...

Tielemans Nor Ndidi, Never Really have or did....In fact IMO though a hot & Cold player, Mendy seemed to of done more...!!

 

A few Patient weeks or Days can change perception rapidly...Rodgers is now struggling in my book,

Carte Blanche for Next season returned, as not creditable-worthy district...!!

 

Edited 8 May 2022 by fuchsntf

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, hejammy said:

OK so how about the last couple of months in his 'usual' position? What's the excuse for that? 

Don’t disagree. Just pointing a fundamental effect on him today. 

[Harry the Cat]

16 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Barnes being asked to play a position he never has in his career might have had an influence on that 

What a load of tosh. He’s playing where he has been for the past 2 seasons. He is devoid of confidence. He could not trap,a bag of cement at the moment.

[hejammy]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

Don’t disagree. Just pointing a fundamental effect on him today. 

Honestly I get someone not being great when out of position, but that shouldn't stop your first touch being good? Or decision making in simple passes, running at a defender? 

[CosbehFox]

Find it baffling that despite in Rome needing a goal to continue our last chance of success, we made no overly attacking move. Yet today we ended up with three strikers and a winger playing at one point plus no deep lying central midfielder 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, hejammy said:

Honestly I get someone not being great when out of position, but that shouldn't stop your first touch being good? Or decision making in simple passes, running at a defender? 

Literally just said I don’t disagree that his form has been bad. 
 

However if we want to get his confidence back doing that to him today ain’t going to do it

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, Harry the Cat said:

What a load of tosh. He’s playing where he has been for the past 2 seasons. He is devoid of confidence. He could not trap,a bag of cement at the moment.

At wing back? Pretty sure Barnes has never been played as a wing back before. Nor has KDH but Rodgers put them both out there in the sort of tactic you'd only ever try on football manager for a laugh

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, Harry the Cat said:

What a load of tosh. He’s playing where he has been for the past 2 seasons. He is devoid of confidence. He could not trap,a bag of cement at the moment.

And Rodgers just made that confidence even worse by asking him to play wing back. He’s in woeful form and today was utterly awful for him trying to get back on that 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

8 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Well we will have to agree to disagree then. Players already thinking they are on holiday (or already have their 'dream move' sorted and bring lazy) is all the mangers fault? 

Yes we will agree to disagree. how do you know " players are thinking of their holidays or dream move " ? Could it actually be they have no faith or trust in his tactics and judgement anymore? his set up and subs to day baffled all the fans so lord knows what it must have done to the players trying to implement his nonsense.

[J. James]

4 hours ago, RoboFox said:

It’s fine. When all of our players are back from injury we’ll be good again.

Yeah right Brendon..

[Jack1993]

I am DISGUSTED at SO CALLED “Everton” today, there was absolutely NO NEED for their time wasting tactics… 

 

Because we were shite and never gunna score anyway 

Next time just go for a 3rd lads 

 

[hejammy]

2 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Yes we will agree to disagree. how do you know " players are thinking of their holidays or dream move " ? Could it actually be they have no faith or trust in his tactics and judgement anymore? his set up and subs to day baffled all the fans so lord knows what it must have done to the players trying to implement his nonsense.

Forget all the tactics etc, these are professional footballers, if they don't agree with the tactics or judgement, they can still have a decent first touch? Or simple pass? Some pride in their 'work' wouldn't go amiss would it? 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 minute ago, hejammy said:

Forget all the tactics etc, these are professional footballers, if they don't agree with the tactics or judgement, they can still have a decent first touch? Or simple pass? Some pride in their 'work' wouldn't go amiss would it? 

Forget all the tactics? ok why have a manager if they can forget all the tactics?

[Corky]

Absolute shit from the formation to the defending to the tempo to the quality to the attitude.

 

Pathetic show.