Danny Ward

[Paninistickers]

This board was literally pleading with the club not to play Ward after the Newcastle game.

 

We knew, not suspected or feared, but knew he'd cost us the game.

 

The financial damage his selection (for 27.5 games) has done is surely without precedent. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Bilo]

14 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

it comes down to whether six months of this festering is good for him. He's persona non grata in the team now and it is the one big mistake Ruud has made (it was obvious that after the first mistake v wolves people would turn on him), he may prefer to just have the payoff and go rebuild a career, at 31 he's not old for a keeper.

Quite. He's just going to waste six months of his life and career here and the number of clubs who will take a chance on him will only diminish when he can't even get on the bench for the reserve team of a side struggling in the Premier League. 

 

You can only imagine as well that he hates every second of being at the club. 

[Paninistickers]

Just as curiosity, I had a look at page 1 of this thread. 

 

Interesting stuff. The vast majority warned against this guy right from the off. 

 

I was interested if it's all hindsight talking. But,.nope. Many had this guy rumbled from day 1. 

[It'sblueupnorth]

31 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Does that make him a "bad person" as some posters seem to think?

No but cheating on his wife does

[Beachyboy]

3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Quite. He's just going to waste six months of his life and career here and the number of clubs who will take a chance on him will only diminish when he can't even get on the bench for the reserve team of a side struggling in the Premier League. 

 

You can only imagine as well that he hates every second of being at the club. 

Does he like golf I hear there's a wonderful course at the training ground? If he hated it that much hed have left by now, I swear we turned down an offer for him from Wolves 3-4 years ago.

[Parafox]

43 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

No but cheating on his wife does

 

News to me but, hey ho. He's not alone.

[murphy]

3 hours ago, Bilo said:

Quite. He's just going to waste six months of his life and career here and the number of clubs who will take a chance on him will only diminish when he can't even get on the bench for the reserve team of a side struggling in the Premier League. 

 

You can only imagine as well that he hates every second of being at the club. 

And yet he chooses to stay and pick up his inflated, unearned salary rather than seek game time and professional advancement elsewhere.  So lets not feel too sorry for him, it;s his choice to stay.

[FoxTimmy2]

In 22/23, we got relegated by 2 points, finishing with a goal difference 6 better than 17th-placed Everton.

 

Can anyone who witnessed this whole season honestly say that Ward cost us less than 3 points - everything else being equal? He made it near impossible for us to stay competitive by constantly letting in soft early goals, forcing us to chase many games. Absolutely decimating for team morale, evident from all his bust-ups with his defenders.

 

Fast forward to this Wolves game and our defence looked like they had given up. Put Mads, Stolarczyk, or Iversen between the sticks and it's 0-0. No exaggeration, those three goals were basic saves for any professional standard goalkeeper.

 

If we end up going down by fine margins again, we'll all know exactly when it happened: playing Ward against Wolves.

 

Credit to those who booed Ward and made their voices heard, with hundreds of millions quid at stake and a us staring down at a potential lost decade in the Championship (or worse), we simply cannot afford it. If we'd found our voice in 22/23, we might not be living this nightmare now.

[CrazyKopCorner]

3 hours ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

In 22/23, we got relegated by 2 points, finishing with a goal difference 6 better than 17th-placed Everton.

 

Can anyone who witnessed this whole season honestly say that Ward cost us less than 3 points - everything else being equal? He made it near impossible for us to stay competitive by constantly letting in soft early goals, forcing us to chase many games. Absolutely decimating for team morale, evident from all his bust-ups with his defenders.

 

Fast forward to this Wolves game and our defence looked like they had given up. Put Mads, Stolarczyk, or Iversen between the sticks and it's 0-0. No exaggeration, those three goals were basic saves for any professional standard goalkeeper.

 

If we end up going down by fine margins again, we'll all know exactly when it happened: playing Ward against Wolves.

 

Credit to those who booed Ward and made their voices heard, with hundreds of millions quid at stake and a us staring down at a potential lost decade in the Championship (or worse), we simply cannot afford it. If we'd found our voice in 22/23, we might not be living this nightmare now.

You are spot on. The first goal yesterday was extremely poor from a goalkeeping pioont of view but I didn’t hear a murmur against Jakub. I think we got the message across against Wolves 

[fox_favourite]

That wolves game was brutal from a human level. It was so toxic in the ground which transferred to the players. Looking back, I think that had something to do with the performance.

 

He's not good enough and he needs to leave, but it must have affected him personally no matter if you're a strong person or not. 

 

RvN has to take part blame for putting someone in that position, but if he didn't do his research, then someone else should have said something, like, I don't know, the DoF! When Mads was injured, there should have been a conversation, someone at the club should have read the room. 

 

Booing is a double edge sword. Yes it got the point across on how we feel about Ward, and we'll be better for it but it can be damaging. It's a way fans show frustration towards managers as well. There isn't many other ways a point can get across in a loud way. 

 

I never agree with booing your own players during a game. Soumare is a prime example. People round me used to boo him when he came on. Now look at him. Ward isn't capable of a redemption like that, I know and I was angry at each of the goal. But that was at the team. So many clangers from too many people.

 

Like I say, I think he's useless at this level, but there is a human there as well. It maybe a case that he never recovers. Who would take him now? 

 

 

Edited 30 December 2024 by fox_favourite

[Happy Fox]

Van Nistelrooy said: “The conversation with Wardy was impressive, I have to share with you. The way he was thinking of the team and the club and the performance of his team-mates, I was impressed with that. I insisted on the conversation. It’s a private conversation but what I want to share is the person and professional that he is.

 

“It was really tough on him, what happened to him. We’re professionals but we’re human beings as well. When frustration is being directed to one person in particular, that’s tough on someone. That’s what we spoke about.

“The way he’s been helping Jakub and the team, I have to emphasise the team player he is. That’s a big compliment to him. It helps Jakub to perform. The goalkeeper group is a tight bunch. They work well together. Danny was in a very difficult situation but he’s handling it in a great way, sharing his experience with Jakub and it shows in his performances.

“That reaction I was very happy with. It could have gone in another way but I think the conversation me and Jelle (ten Rouwelaar, goalkeeping coach) had with him was very important.

“Onwards from that, he’s been acting like a fantastic colleague for the goalkeepers. (The supporters) need to know that. It’s good that everyone knows he’s here to help the club to be better.”

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Van Nistelrooy said: “The conversation with Wardy was impressive, I have to share with you. The way he was thinking of the team and the club and the performance of his team-mates, I was impressed with that. I insisted on the conversation. It’s a private conversation but what I want to share is the person and professional that he is.
 

“It was really tough on him, what happened to him. We’re professionals but we’re human beings as well. When frustration is being directed to one person in particular, that’s tough on someone. That’s what we spoke about.

“The way he’s been helping Jakub and the team, I have to emphasise the team player he is. That’s a big compliment to him. It helps Jakub to perform. The goalkeeper group is a tight bunch. They work well together. Danny was in a very difficult situation but he’s handling it in a great way, sharing his experience with Jakub and it shows in his performances.

“That reaction I was very happy with. It could have gone in another way but I think the conversation me and Jelle (ten Rouwelaar, goalkeeping coach) had with him was very important.

“Onwards from that, he’s been acting like a fantastic colleague for the goalkeepers. (The supporters) need to know that. It’s good that everyone knows he’s here to help the club to be better.”

Seemed likely he was always going to be like this sort of person or he would have been gone before now, this is despite him not being up to the required standard on the field.

[StanSP]

'here to help the club be better'. 

 

But go one step further and the best thing to help the club would be to leave... 

[Mickyblueeyes]

49 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Van Nistelrooy said: “The conversation with Wardy was impressive, I have to share with you. The way he was thinking of the team and the club and the performance of his team-mates, I was impressed with that. I insisted on the conversation. It’s a private conversation but what I want to share is the person and professional that he is.

 

“It was really tough on him, what happened to him. We’re professionals but we’re human beings as well. When frustration is being directed to one person in particular, that’s tough on someone. That’s what we spoke about.

“The way he’s been helping Jakub and the team, I have to emphasise the team player he is. That’s a big compliment to him. It helps Jakub to perform. The goalkeeper group is a tight bunch. They work well together. Danny was in a very difficult situation but he’s handling it in a great way, sharing his experience with Jakub and it shows in his performances.

“That reaction I was very happy with. It could have gone in another way but I think the conversation me and Jelle (ten Rouwelaar, goalkeeping coach) had with him was very important.

“Onwards from that, he’s been acting like a fantastic colleague for the goalkeepers. (The supporters) need to know that. It’s good that everyone knows he’s here to help the club to be better.”

Have as many insightful conversations with him as you. Dont ever play him again. Mads, Jacob, Iverson, Under 21 keeper, Under 18, Under 16, Under 10s, Under 8, Ward. That's the order. 

[TheLittleBigMan]

On 30/12/2024 at 06:00, fox_favourite said:

That wolves game was brutal from a human level. It was so toxic in the ground which transferred to the players. Looking back, I think that had something to do with the performance.

 

He's not good enough and he needs to leave, but it must have affected him personally no matter if you're a strong person or not. 

 

RvN has to take part blame for putting someone in that position, but if he didn't do his research, then someone else should have said something, like, I don't know, the DoF! When Mads was injured, there should have been a conversation, someone at the club should have read the room. 

 

Booing is a double edge sword. Yes it got the point across on how we feel about Ward, and we'll be better for it but it can be damaging. It's a way fans show frustration towards managers as well. There isn't many other ways a point can get across in a loud way. 

 

I never agree with booing your own players during a game. Soumare is a prime example. People round me used to boo him when he came on. Now look at him. Ward isn't capable of a redemption like that, I know and I was angry at each of the goal. But that was at the team. So many clangers from too many people.

 

Like I say, I think he's useless at this level, but there is a human there as well. It maybe a case that he never recovers. Who would take him now? 

 

 

I left early from the Wolves game not because of the performance but because of the vile section of fans booing and hurling abuse. What happened definitely made the team play worse and made it an awful environment for the rest of us. Make your feelings heard at the end of the game for sure but destroying the atmosphere and the teams confidence game time is a level of stupidity I simply can't stand.  Let's not forget the amount of abuse that then leaks out to players family's etc. Leicester fans seem to turn on the players/manager at the drop of a hat these days. We used to get louder when were losing not that long ago and we turned the game around so many times because of it.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

1 hour ago, TheLittleBigMan said:

I left early from the Wolves game not because of the performance but because of the vile section of fans booing and hurling abuse. What happened definitely made the team play worse and made it an awful environment for the rest of us. Make your feelings heard at the end of the game for sure but destroying the atmosphere and the teams confidence game time is a level of stupidity I simply can't stand.  Let's not forget the amount of abuse that then leaks out to players family's etc. Leicester fans seem to turn on the players/manager at the drop of a hat these days. We used to get louder when were losing not that long ago and we turned the game around so many times because of it.

Not sure I agree with this. If the fan base hadn’t of reacted the way it did Ward might have started the next game and then the one after that. Results since then are irrelevant if Ward was in goal we’d have been an absolute joke . I totally get he needs to be protected and the best way that could have happened is with what happened, being hounded out at the first opportunity, otherwise he’d have kept falling over himself and things would have got more toxic, that isn’t good for anyone, least of all Ward.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Seemed likely he was always going to be like this sort of person or he would have been gone before now, this is despite him not being up to the required standard on the field.

Well if you’re really shit and when you play you royally **** up, the very least you can do is know your limits and be a good egg. At least from the look of it he has those qualities. 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Well if you’re really shit and when you play you royally **** up, the very least you can do is know your limits and be a good egg. At least from the look of it he has those qualities. 

As the saying goes, those that can’t, teach.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 hour ago, TheLittleBigMan said:

Leicester fans seem to turn on the players/manager at the drop of a hat these days

I wonder why that might be? 🧐 

[jim5000]

Has he gone?

[LCFCCKEANO]

3 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Van Nistelrooy said: “The conversation with Wardy was impressive, I have to share with you. The way he was thinking of the team and the club and the performance of his team-mates, I was impressed with that. I insisted on the conversation. It’s a private conversation but what I want to share is the person and professional that he is.

 

“It was really tough on him, what happened to him. We’re professionals but we’re human beings as well. When frustration is being directed to one person in particular, that’s tough on someone. That’s what we spoke about.

“The way he’s been helping Jakub and the team, I have to emphasise the team player he is. That’s a big compliment to him. It helps Jakub to perform. The goalkeeper group is a tight bunch. They work well together. Danny was in a very difficult situation but he’s handling it in a great way, sharing his experience with Jakub and it shows in his performances.

“That reaction I was very happy with. It could have gone in another way but I think the conversation me and Jelle (ten Rouwelaar, goalkeeping coach) had with him was very important.

“Onwards from that, he’s been acting like a fantastic colleague for the goalkeepers. (The supporters) need to know that. It’s good that everyone knows he’s here to help the club to be better.”

No doubt he’s a great personality, also is a shite goalkeeper, those two things can exist together, I doubt Jelle ten Rouweelar would be great on a Saturday this year but I’ll take him on the training ground helping the guys who aren’t shite too

[Chelmofox]

3 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Van Nistelrooy said: “The conversation with Wardy was impressive, I have to share with you. The way he was thinking of the team and the club and the performance of his team-mates, I was impressed with that. I insisted on the conversation. It’s a private conversation but what I want to share is the person and professional that he is.

 

“It was really tough on him, what happened to him. We’re professionals but we’re human beings as well. When frustration is being directed to one person in particular, that’s tough on someone. That’s what we spoke about.

“The way he’s been helping Jakub and the team, I have to emphasise the team player he is. That’s a big compliment to him. It helps Jakub to perform. The goalkeeper group is a tight bunch. They work well together. Danny was in a very difficult situation but he’s handling it in a great way, sharing his experience with Jakub and it shows in his performances.

“That reaction I was very happy with. It could have gone in another way but I think the conversation me and Jelle (ten Rouwelaar, goalkeeping coach) had with him was very important.

“Onwards from that, he’s been acting like a fantastic colleague for the goalkeepers. (The supporters) need to know that. It’s good that everyone knows he’s here to help the club to be better.”

Clearly starting then on Saturday  

[bovril]

1 hour ago, TheLittleBigMan said:

I left early from the Wolves game not because of the performance but because of the vile section of fans booing and hurling abuse. What happened definitely made the team play worse and made it an awful environment for the rest of us. Make your feelings heard at the end of the game for sure but destroying the atmosphere and the teams confidence game time is a level of stupidity I simply can't stand.  Let's not forget the amount of abuse that then leaks out to players family's etc. Leicester fans seem to turn on the players/manager at the drop of a hat these days. We used to get louder when were losing not that long ago and we turned the game around so many times because of it.

There was nothing personal in the chants as far as I know. Just telling him he's shit, which he is. It's happened forever in football and is not really a big deal. Do you leave when the opposition fans sing about Vardy's wife?

[bovril]

12 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Clearly starting then on Saturday  

It will be a disgrace if he ever starts a competitive game for us. Or even a friendly. 

[Gazza3]

Best thing he can do to help the club is leave