Vestergaard

[Paninistickers]

47 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Vesty can be a solid, workmanlike CD for a team that sits deep.  He's no fit for us or any side that plays a high line, and his disastrous stint here tanked his value.  We'd be lucky to get 5M for him as a result.

Noticeable that the 2 games he has done OK, man city at home early season and Rennes away last 10 mins, we were sitting back camped deep. 

 

He seems a decent lad and just needs the right set up for his game. 

[Ric Flair]

8 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Noticeable that the 2 games he has done OK, man city at home early season and Rennes away last 10 mins, we were sitting back camped deep. 

 

He seems a decent lad and just needs the right set up for his game. 

What we need is a manager who loves a back 3 low block shit house and hopefully they spy a deal to be done with Vestergaard.

[Bob Hazels shorts]

2 hours ago, adejo92 said:

I actually don't blame Vestergaard for his outcome.

 

Everyone in world football, apart from Leicester City Recruitment,  knew that he was dogsh1t.

 

The bloke was set up to fail. 

 

You buy 2 out of 4 defenders from a team that  was embarrassed on more than one occasion and you get the desired result.

Can't ague with that.

 

We needed a cooker but bought a washing machine bizarrely

 

Player in there somewhere but not our fit

[Ric Flair]

He's largely been a disaster in English football. He's had one half of a season where he's done well at Southampton but the rest of the time they hated him an'all. Abysmal signing. Cut our losses. Finishing 8th instead of 14th and earning us an extra £15m will hopefully mean we can rip up Vestergaard and Bertrands contracts.

[smudger63]

1 hour ago, Raw Dykes said:

I doubt anyone will be in for Wes this summer, after he just signed a new contract. I don't think anyone would pay anywhere near what it would take to get him.

Contracts mean nothing these days. I suspect that as part of that new contract there will be a buy out clause which little wes's agent would have insisted on. Hopefully an extremely high buy out clause that will put off other clubs.  I'm hoping that little Wes will feel in any case, that after missing most of this season with injury, and the club looking after him, he will feel that he owes the club at least one more season, which I think he will. The guy is going to be a superstar, its really difficult seeing us hanging on to him for more than one more season, but I hope we can. I love watching him play.

[coolhandfox]

10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He's largely been a disaster in English football. He's had one half of a season where he's done well at Southampton but the rest of the time they hated him an'all. Abysmal signing. Cut our losses. Finishing 8th instead of 14th and earning us an extra £15m will hopefully mean we can rip up Vestergaard and Bertrands contracts.

That really wouldn't help us. 

[sheffield_fox]

21 hours ago, teblin said:

Peter Gilbert, Michael trotter, junior Lewis. There have been lots worse than jannick.

 

just that all of them put together probably cost about the same we paid for him.

 

to be fair I think he is a decent footballer, but not a great defender, which is an issue as a centre back. His lack of pace is the issue for the way we want to play.

Matthew Pearson is the worst I've seen in person play for Leicester. Also the most underwhelming pornstar i've seen.

[Rain King]

2 minutes ago, sheffield_fox said:

Matthew Pearson is the worst I've seen in person play for Leicester. Also the most underwhelming pornstar i've seen.

James?

[Raw Dykes]

2 minutes ago, sheffield_fox said:

Matthew Pearson is the worst I've seen in person play for Leicester. Also the most underwhelming pornstar i've seen.

James Pearson?

[turlo]

4 pages in and not a single link to clubs interested. Even the Mercury has not made one up yet - Could be a long one this. Getting a few mill back or a loan with a full wage contribution & fee will be the best we can hope for.

[Vlad the Fox]

20 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

Ian Ormondroyd

No, no, no, I’m not having that. We pulled out of signing cantona because of how good he was.  

 

Seriously though I was fuming when we signed the droyd,  but he turned out to be a good signing for us.

Edited 26 May 2022 by Vlad the Fox

[Ric Flair]

13 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

That really wouldn't help us. 

As per @Chocolate Teapot has said, its not so much the finances for transfers that's the problem but our troubles with wages as we reach the threshold for wages to turnover ratio. We've inexplicably paid these pair of clowns best part of £150k a week or more between them. Getting an agreement with them to rip them up for a lump sum would help us. We need to shift a good 6+ fringe players on big wages and also Youri, Soyuncu and Iheanacho.

[Raw Dykes]

17 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Contracts mean nothing these days. I suspect that as part of that new contract there will be a buy out clause which little wes's agent would have insisted on. Hopefully an extremely high buy out clause that will put off other clubs.  I'm hoping that little Wes will feel in any case, that after missing most of this season with injury, and the club looking after him, he will feel that he owes the club at least one more season, which I think he will. The guy is going to be a superstar, its really difficult seeing us hanging on to him for more than one more season, but I hope we can. I love watching him play.

I think I know what you're trying to say, but it's just not true that contracts mean nothing, is it? We're not going to get what we should have done for Youri or Cags, because they've only got a year left on their contracts and interested clubs can hold that against us. It's the opposite when a player has just signed a new deal - the selling club holds all the cards. It's very rare for a player to move clubs just a few months after signing a new contract.

 

I suppose it is possible that there's a min. release clause in Wes's contract, but I think it's highly unlikely. I believe the club have said they won't be writing contracts with them in anymore after we were stung with Kante's sale. Even if there is one, I think it would probably be for such an amount that would mean it might as well not be in there, anyway.

 

Barring a stupidly-low, unlikely-in-any-case release clause in his contract, if anyone comes in for Wes any time soon, we're in a position to name our price, or just say 'not for sale.'

 

I agree with the rest of your comment. I think Wes seems to really enjoy being here, and I'm sure he will stay for at least one more season. He is destined for the very top, I reckon. Wouldn't surprise me if he fetched around £100m in a year or two.

[lgfualol]

Just a stupid signing as he doesnt fit our system at all, bar his passing which is great. Would have been better just to throw a youth CB on the pitch for the few minutes Vesters played. Like most of our flops, he will end up in Turkey on loan until his contract ends.

 

Hope we dont get more signings like him, Soumare and Bertrand this Summer else there will be a rebuild in 2023 as well..

Edited 26 May 2022 by lgfualol

[smudger63]

45 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

I think I know what you're trying to say, but it's just not true that contracts mean nothing, is it? We're not going to get what we should have done for Youri or Cags, because they've only got a year left on their contracts and interested clubs can hold that against us. It's the opposite when a player has just signed a new deal - the selling club holds all the cards. It's very rare for a player to move clubs just a few months after signing a new contract.

 

I suppose it is possible that there's a min. release clause in Wes's contract, but I think it's highly unlikely. I believe the club have said they won't be writing contracts with them in anymore after we were stung with Kante's sale. Even if there is one, I think it would probably be for such an amount that would mean it might as well not be in there, anyway.

 

Barring a stupidly-low, unlikely-in-any-case release clause in his contract, if anyone comes in for Wes any time soon, we're in a position to name our price, or just say 'not for sale.'

 

I agree with the rest of your comment. I think Wes seems to really enjoy being here, and I'm sure he will stay for at least one more season. He is destined for the very top, I reckon. Wouldn't surprise me if he fetched around £100m in a year or two.

The club did say that they wouldn't put buy out clauses in contracts after kante left, and that may still be the case, but given that players and agents have seen how hardball we are with buying clubs, in terms of, you pay what we want or he don't go anywhere, which in the case of Mahrez especially, now has him basically claiming we kept him a prisoner for a season, I'm thinking that an agent and player now, would feel they wanted a buy out clause in the contract to protect themselves against not being able to leave if they wished too until the last year of their contract. Alsi If its a buy out clause, as in the case of Haarland, then there will be no bidding war with the club. It won't matter if there are 5 clubs after him, so long as they trigger the buy out clause, that's the price, and the bidding war will be with the player and what they pay him

[Raw Dykes]

7 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

The club did say that they wouldn't put buy out clauses in contracts after kante left, and that may still be the case, but given that players and agents have seen how hardball we are with buying clubs, in terms of, you pay what we want or he don't go anywhere, which in the case of Mahrez especially, now has him basically claiming we kept him a prisoner for a season, I'm thinking that an agent and player now, would feel they wanted a buy out clause in the contract to protect themselves against not being able to leave if they wished too until the last year of their contract. Alsi If its a buy out clause, as in the case of Haarland, then there will be no bidding war with the club. It won't matter if there are 5 clubs after him, so long as they trigger the buy out clause, that's the price, and the bidding war will be with the player and what they pay him

I still don't think it's very likely that there is a release clause. If there is, it'll almost certainly be very, very high. Can't see the club agreeing to one that wasn't.

 

Players have come and gone since Mahrez left, and I'm pretty sure we haven't had any release clauses triggered since Kante left. I just see no reason to believe that we're agreeing to them again.

 

There can still be a bidding war over a player with a release clause. Depends whether the bids start below the amount in the clause.

[1972 Fox]

1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

Just a stupid signing as he doesnt fit our system at all, bar his passing which is great.

Yeah like that free kick he put straight out of play to give it back to Rennes when we were hanging on at the death. 

[coolhandfox]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

As per @Chocolate Teapot has said, its not so much the finances for transfers that's the problem but our troubles with wages as we reach the threshold for wages to turnover ratio. We've inexplicably paid these pair of clowns best part of £150k a week or more between them. Getting an agreement with them to rip them up for a lump sum would help us. We need to shift a good 6+ fringe players on big wages and also Youri, Soyuncu and Iheanacho.

Not sure how paying them off as a Lump Sum will help; you end up paying, in Vesty's case, two years of wages in one go, which still end up being counted as wages in the accounts in one shot. 
 
Transfer fees are also capitalised on the balance sheet and written down (amortised) over the length of the contract, so in Vestergaard's case, 4.2m a year over the length of his contract; not sure how that changes if we release him, it may mean we have to stick the remaining 8.6m in this year's accounts. 
 
Also, why would you release an asset for free that you could get 5-6m for?  

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 May 2022 by coolhandfox

[Gravel]

Gerrimout!

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

2 hours ago, Raw Dykes said:

I still don't think it's very likely that there is a release clause. If there is, it'll almost certainly be very, very high. Can't see the club agreeing to one that wasn't.

 

Players have come and gone since Mahrez left, and I'm pretty sure we haven't had any release clauses triggered since Kante left. I just see no reason to believe that we're agreeing to them again.

 

There can still be a bidding war over a player with a release clause. Depends whether the bids start below the amount in the clause.

A big problem with release clauses is transfer inflation. When we put a £35 million release clause in Kante's contract, it was considered astronomical! (Same with Vardy's £20 million.)

 

Right now, £25 million fees are fairly common; next £100 million might happen more often ... For clubs, transfer inflation can be manageable, since more comes in from sales, but it can be disastrous if a release clause suddenly undervalues your assets.

 

Mahrez wasn't "held captive" -- he thought he could be given away if threw a hissy fit! If you look at his numbers, no one can complain about what we charged ManCity.

 

We aren't an unreasonable club to deal with; we just aren't mugs when selling.

[Collymore]

On 25/05/2022 at 14:55, Kinowe Soorie said:

A scarecrow, would have won more headers!

Think you're being harsh on the scarecrow

 

[MPH]

On 25/05/2022 at 08:45, Lesta Legend said:

Ian Ormondroyd

 

 

I hope you were not dissing the Droyd?

[volpeazzurro]

5 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said:

Can't ague with that.

 

We needed a cooker but bought a washing machine bizarrely

 

Player in there somewhere but not our fit

I wondered what the connection with Keith Vaz was!

[sheffield_fox]

On 26/05/2022 at 09:58, Raw Dykes said:

James Pearson?

Thats the one 

 

Tbf, probably one of the most important players we've ever had, so swings and roundabouts. 

[Ironman]

The myth of Leicester recruitment brilliance was absolutely trashed last summer.  To be fair it has been very hit and miss for a while.  Musa, Slimani, Perez to make a few.  By the way Adi Akinbiyi takes some beating for worst value signing ever.