Stadium atmosphere

[MattFox]

We had a pretty terrible atmosphere when we were rocking under Rodgers in the first half of 19/20. Can’t exactly blame it on the standard of football 

 

Last time the KP was constantly loud was for the Champions League games

[Sol thewall Bamba]

18 minutes ago, Evington Fosse Fox said:

Personally think the Union FS sermon gathering is not at all effective, other than few flags being waved.

 

When it was piloted at FA cup tie with Watford, was all good. More recently,  Union FS have tried but does make any difference in terms of noise, banners and also bouncing there energy to other parts of the ground. Also get the sense that the club hierarchy do not support the funding of Tifo displays (why not the money saved from the clap banners) or anything else to ramp up the atmosphere.

 

 

UFS don't want any funding from the club on tifos. They try to stick their oar in enough as it is. 

Edited 29 December 2022 by Sol thewall Bamba

[1884Man]

15 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Anfield in general is absolutely dreadful. The worst of the big tourist grounds by a mile.

Not when I've been it hasn't....

[SystonFox]

if "folk dont want to be there" then why do they go? This isn't a pop at the person who said this is a genuine question. 

Do people feel like because they own a season ticket they must go out of routine, expectation, normality etc? What is it?

I want to be there every time i attend. You wouldn't go to the cinema or theatre or music concert if you didnt want to be there. it just wouldn't be an option.

 

the atmosphere is largely conducive, imo, of the culture the club have tried to create. Our owners, and people high up, want us to be a family club. They don't necessarily want your L1's, your SK1's and your Fosse Boys bouncing around in their nike air maxes saying that they've ad it on a weekend, getting the badge in, getting the bags in and getting the slags in. They want us to sit there with our family and clap our cardboard freebies week in week out.

I take my 7 year old boy when we can go. We've been to numerous home games this season already including the 4-0 win to Forest and 0-1 defeat to United. Both times sitting somewhere in the family stand and the atmosphere was decent ... especially Forest!

Equally, the 0-0 draw against Palace was like a morgue. 

[purpleronnie]

I supposed the 'style' of support which is inclusively English is always going to generate poor atmospheres.

 

Only a handful of teams will perform well and give the crowds something to cheer.  The rest will be poor and the atmosphere will reflect that.

 

But this is a bit like a self fulfilling fallacy, given those successful clubs will end up with both tourist fans and self entitled fans who will expect to win which dilutes any atmosphere they had when playing well and winning.

 

So its a lose lose with the type of support.

 

[foxile5]

48 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Anfield in general is absolutely dreadful. The worst of the big tourist grounds by a mile.

Anfield has developed a reputation through high stakes European games. Almost every stadium is bouncing for champions League knock out games.

 

Their regular fare is ****ing shit though. Ground full off day trippers mainly.

[Lcfc82]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

No for sure but football is still not purely Cinema or Theatre, all fans play an active role. Those that choose not to sing a great deal can still do their bit scaled down. Clap a long, join in with some songs. Doing this I really believe makes their own experience of going down to Filbert Way slightly more positive.

 

You look at the faces and body language currently and folk just don’t really want to be there.

It’s already been said on here but the reason people who don’t want to be there is because of how bad the football is. 
I think if there was more entertainment on the pitch the ones who do get involved in a more scaled back way would get involved more regularly.

[Vazman]

42 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

I`ve said this before, so once again i will be repeating myself, which clearly annoys some on here, but the truth is, throughout almost 50 years that i`ve been going down The City, and travelled to other stadiums around the country watching The City, the one thing that is constant is that the atmospheres are always created during a game, by the whats going on,on the pitch, sometimes its a crap reffereeing decision that riles everyone up, and creates a "the whole worlds against us, we will show them mentality", and the crowd get up for it.  Sometimes a robust tackle can do the trick, but it is still related to whats going on, on the park.  Ive been to Liverpool, Leeds and the new darlings Newcastle, plenty of time over the years, and never heard a peep out of them, in some games, despite them being touted as the best atmospheres in the country. Even last season away at Newcastle, until their injury time winner, we could have been sat in a Doctors waiting room once the game had got going! The singing section can sing all game, and they try to be fair, but they are not going to create the kind of atmosphere they want, without the players on the pitch giving something that will get the majority of other fans joining in.  Ironically a team can be winning easily, and the atmosphere will go flat, simply because it isnt an exciting game anymore.  This isnt unique to Leicester though, its a country wide thing. 

Admittedly at Leicester though at the minute, there is a feeling of it all going belly up in the coming seasons, and that maybe our time in the sun is over, and that certainly isnt helping.

Spot on post.

[Dawko]

The team is boring.

[Spiritwalker]

I usually always sing during a game but against Newcastle I just couldn’t be arsed. The team sucked

all the atmosphere from the crowd by the way they started the game. It felt like they’d just been pulled

away from their Xmas dinner, and if the team can’t be arsed why should the crowd?

[themightyfin]

Owners want nice friendly atmosphere to suit the high paying corporate clients.

They don't want opposition fans going at each other shouting and singing anything unacceptable to these clients.

It's not just our owners. Premier league is a huge business with huge amounts of money at stake and owners will want everything sanitised to suit.

Times change. 

 

 

 

[MS0204]

1 hour ago, smudger63 said:

I`ve said this before, so once again i will be repeating myself, which clearly annoys some on here, but the truth is, throughout almost 50 years that i`ve been going down The City, and travelled to other stadiums around the country watching The City, the one thing that is constant is that the atmospheres are always created during a game, by the whats going on,on the pitch, sometimes its a crap reffereeing decision that riles everyone up, and creates a "the whole worlds against us, we will show them mentality", and the crowd get up for it.  Sometimes a robust tackle can do the trick, but it is still related to whats going on, on the park.  Ive been to Liverpool, Leeds and the new darlings Newcastle, plenty of time over the years, and never heard a peep out of them, in some games, despite them being touted as the best atmospheres in the country. Even last season away at Newcastle, until their injury time winner, we could have been sat in a Doctors waiting room once the game had got going! The singing section can sing all game, and they try to be fair, but they are not going to create the kind of atmosphere they want, without the players on the pitch giving something that will get the majority of other fans joining in.  Ironically a team can be winning easily, and the atmosphere will go flat, simply because it isnt an exciting game anymore.  This isnt unique to Leicester though, its a country wide thing. 

Admittedly at Leicester though at the minute, there is a feeling of it all going belly up in the coming seasons, and that maybe our time in the sun is over, and that certainly isnt helping.

There is literally so many sides to this atmosphere debate, it’s a bit like a hexagon conversation. But this post pretty much sums it up perfectly. I generally do think and agree with many that the atmosphere has suffered over the last few years. But why is that? Are the performances not matching the title winning season? To answer that no they ain’t, however I am in the crowd where atmosphere influences the players rather than vice versa. As I said in my previous post regarding Becky hill, she was probably singing her heart out and people were just slouched over the front railing looking as if they were there on a mystery day trip.

 

Like this poster has said, it happens up and down the country, Tottenham wasn’t exactly bouncing, West Ham was non existent from both sets of fans, mk dons was too easy.. in my opinion the home support is more vital because that’s where the points are being dropped and frustration is growing. If anything due to the uncertainly of the next couple of years the players need support more than ever. Someone has mentioned how can you make atmosphere with them keep passing it about. Don’t just sit in silence, get into em ****

em up… sing the player chants anything to motivate them. The next couple of years will be a rollercoaster so strap in and try to enjoy it. 
 

And wout faes needs his chant completing.. he’s one that shows passion and is the future 

 

 

[SemperEadem]

6 minutes ago, themightyfin said:

Owners want nice friendly atmosphere to suit the high paying corporate clients.

They don't want opposition fans going at each other shouting and singing anything unacceptable to these clients.

It's not just our owners. Premier league is a huge business with huge amounts of money at stake and owners will want everything sanitised to suit.

Times change. 

 

 

 

Granted Im fully aware I will be in the minority but I really couldn't care what ‘owners’ want. Football is for the fans. 

[davieG]

2 hours ago, SystonFox said:

if "folk dont want to be there" then why do they go?

Plenty of people go as it's a chance to socialise and have a drink with friends and family and due to other commitments is their only chance. It's as much a ritual of that as it is for the football. Mind you with all the club generated pre-match music and the restrictive availability of match tickets coupled with not being able to pay cash on the day has made that very hard for many.

 

Plenty of people that started when they were young have now aged and have moved on from just being a vocal support to taking an interest in players, formation and tactics so are never going to do much singing.  With the current crop of players, formations and tactics they probably look like they don't want to be there - count me in that as I would have looked this way on Boxing Day 

[Paninistickers]

30 minutes ago, themightyfin said:

Owners want nice friendly atmosphere to suit the high paying corporate clients.

They don't want opposition fans going at each other shouting and singing anything unacceptable to these clients.

It's not just our owners. Premier league is a huge business with huge amounts of money at stake and owners will want everything sanitised to suit.

Times change. 

 

 

 

I've read this a few times now. I don't subscribe to it myself. Not least that the corporate areas benefit from a raucous atmosphere. The experience is all the better, then close the restaurant door and enjoy warmth and a nice vino

 

I do think however the club want a sanitised, less working class, testosterone-lite male in the stands though. Not for the hospitality as suggested, but to create a much more family/women/ multiethnic welcoming environment. Nothing wrong with that per se, but I don't think it's mutually exclusive (ie to discourage noisy and sometimes obnoxious supporters and create an inclusive atmosphere) 

 

Fwiw, the home match v that red filth was the best atmosphere in yonks 

[Stadt]

We had 8 shots, 2 on target against Newcastle. There are lots of reasons why our atmosphere is often poor but when a concedes early and shows zero sign of getting back into the game - it’ll be subdued.

[davieG]

15 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I've read this a few times now. I don't subscribe to it myself. Not least that the corporate areas benefit from a raucous atmosphere. The experience is all the better, then close the restaurant door and enjoy warmth and a nice vino

 

I do think however the club want a sanitised, less working class, testosterone-lite male in the stands though. Not for the hospitality as suggested, but to create a much more family/women/ multiethnic welcoming environment. Nothing wrong with that per se, but I don't think it's mutually exclusive (ie to discourage noisy and sometimes obnoxious supporters and create an inclusive atmosphere) 

 

Fwiw, the home match v that red filth was the best atmosphere in yonks 

I'm not convinced you'll get raucous atmosphere with a more family/women/ multi-ethnic welcoming environment, I'm sure the decline in a raucous atmosphere is the gradual reduction in testosterone youths who've been priced out by having to pay match day prices as they are not traditionally ST holders coupled with not being able to congregate inside on a match by match basis. 

 

The evidence for me is there as they try to replace the naturally fan led atmosphere now mostly lost with loudly played pre-match music, goal music, clappers, and club provided flags.

[ithuriel]

3 minutes ago, davieG said:

I'm not convinced you'll get raucous atmosphere with a more family/women/ multi-ethnic welcoming environment, I'm sure the decline in a raucous atmosphere is the gradual reduction in testosterone youths who've been priced out by having to pay match day prices as they are not traditionally ST holders coupled with not being able to congregate inside on a match by match basis. 

 

The evidence for me is there as they try to replace the naturally fan led atmosphere now mostly lost with loudly played pre-match music, goal music, clappers, and club provided flags.

Clappers have gone from the KP replaced by noiseless flags that will not last long if they keep walking 

[Paninistickers]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

I'm not convinced you'll get raucous atmosphere with a more family/women/ multi-ethnic welcoming environment, I'm sure the decline in a raucous atmosphere is the gradual reduction in testosterone youths who've been priced out by having to pay match day prices as they are not traditionally ST holders coupled with not being able to congregate inside on a match by match basis. 

 

The evidence for me is there as they try to replace the naturally fan led atmosphere now mostly lost with loudly played pre-match music, goal music, clappers, and club provided flags.

I think it is fairly simple. Pricing.  The old kops behind goals were cheap due to the poorer views which attracted younger, less well off fans which generally meant more noise. And a natural segregation of older or quieter sorts who'd avoid the kop like the plague 

 

Imaginative ticketing and pricing would improve the atmosphere tenfold. But the club simply don't want more abrasive fans anywhere in the stadium. 

 

 

[RonnieTodger]

It isn’t the same up and down the country.

 

 

[purpleronnie]

Just now, RonnieTodger said:

It isn’t the same up and down the country.

 

 

I actually think it pretty much is the same in england, we're definitely up there with the worst though.  But all the years I've watched us there's only the odd season our support has been any good.

[RonnieTodger]

1 minute ago, purpleronnie said:

I actually think it pretty much is the same in england, we're definitely up there with the worst though.  But all the years I've watched us there's only the odd season our support has been any good.

I’d say only two teams that can compete with our lack of atmosphere in the PL are probably Bournemouth and Southampton.
 

As the tweet above says, we’ve got a lot more to shout about than they do, but all we’ve got to show for it are a couple of primary school chants about Vichai and “Leicester boys are we”. 
 

Bringing clappers back would be the final nail in the coffin. 

[Haywood_6]

Our support is probably the worst I've ever seen it. The stadium is like a morgue. Nobody can be arsed, but occasionally the old dirge of "The terrace sings a song for you, durrr durr durr durr" comes out. 

[MattFox]

1 hour ago, themightyfin said:

Owners want nice friendly atmosphere to suit the high paying corporate clients.

They don't want opposition fans going at each other shouting and singing anything unacceptable to these clients.

It's not just our owners. Premier league is a huge business with huge amounts of money at stake and owners will want everything sanitised to suit.

Times change. 

 

 

 

Disagree with this, a lot of clubs have gone the other way in recent seasons and see authenticity as more marketable and as a selling point.

 

We are one of the only clubs that bothers with this controlled atmosphere BS anymore and one of the only clubs resisting safe standing.

 

Fact is KP are way out of whack with what the rest of football is thinking/ doing these days

[MattFox]

39 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

It isn’t the same up and down the country.

 

 

Would have put us on a very similar level with Wolves years back.

 

Similar sized clubs in terms of trophies, demographic and city sizes etc

 

Nowadays we are miles behind them in terms of atmosphere even considering they aren’t as good as they once were