Rudkin

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Bilo said:

Top needs to cut out the cancer. Someone somewhere has to show him he's been played. 

If the league table doesn't show him that then he isn't cut out to be our owner.

 

Rudkin's climbed the ladder based on the work of others yet somehow seems to dodge the blame when things go wrong. He really has played them for fools.

 

I know this is kind of obvious given we have literally just been relegated but there really is absolutely nothing to be positive about. Unless Rudkin is sacked I will not believe that this ownership are serious in what they say.

[The Doctor]

2 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

And yet what hope is there. He's the arsekisser type. We have an arsekisser DoF and an owner that hasn't got a clue what he's doing. It's a deadly combination. The fans also proved today that bar a small minority they aren't going to put any serious pressure on.

 

For all Leeds are even worse than us (somehow), at least their fans have kicked up a proper fuss. They've treated a relegation as it should be.

 

I knew we had a happy clappy NPC fanbase but I didn't realise quite how bad it actually was until today. Large sections of this lot truly have been totally brainwashed. This ownership / the club can do literally no wrong in their eyes.

it's why I'm pretty certain we're not done falling. the warning signs for relegation were there last summer, I made several posts going into the data and showing we were trending towards relegation battles, and the club will have far more sophisticated data and data processing tools available than me with understat and a copy of Excel, but they ignored it because they are uniquely unqualified to run a club. And now they're carrying out an investigation into themselves, akin to Harold Shipman fronting up an inquiry into failures in NHS patient care. they'll whitewash their own roles, learn nothing and we'll finish bottom half of the championship next season, repeat that for a couple of years before being back in league one 

[JimmyC74]

3 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

If the league table doesn't show him that then he isn't cut out to be our owner.

 

Rudkin's climbed the ladder based on the work of others yet somehow seems to dodge the blame when things go wrong. He really has played them for fools.

 

I know this is kind of obvious given we have literally just been relegated but there really is absolutely nothing to be positive about. Unless Rudkin is sacked I will not believe that this ownership are serious in what they say.

News he is co-leading the official review / lessons learned process and runs Top’s horse business suggests he is going nowhere.

 

But agree we need a top DofF to help rebuild the Club.

 

if they think all they need to do is appoint the ‘right’ manager we are likely to make the same mistakes.

[Dahnsouff]

Leave Rudkin where he is, let him focus on horsey things (as I fear he is too entrenched) and get a Ragnick type to run the football side

[JimmyC74]

7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Leave Rudkin where he is, let him focus on horsey things (as I fear he is too entrenched) and get a Ragnick type to run the football side

That is maybe the way forward. Let Rudders save face…..if Club/Rudders don’t want to outright sack him / resign and get a proper DofF in.

Edited 29 May 2023 by JimmyC74

[Dan]

2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

it's why I'm pretty certain we're not done falling. the warning signs for relegation were there last summer, I made several posts going into the data and showing we were trending towards relegation battles, and the club will have far more sophisticated data and data processing tools available than me with understat and a copy of Excel, but they ignored it because they are uniquely unqualified to run a club. And now they're carrying out an investigation into themselves, akin to Harold Shipman fronting up an inquiry into failures in NHS patient care. they'll whitewash their own roles, learn nothing and we'll finish bottom half of the championship next season, repeat that for a couple of years before being back in league one 

I really think there's a possibility that this happens as well. It took only basic data to back up the eye test in 2021/22 that we were clearly on the decline. Yet the clubs response to this was a summer of inaction, failing to back or sack the manager (I'd have sacked but doing neither is worse than backing him). They really did think that we were big enough to take a year off and be OK. They even got fired a warning sign with 1 point from the opening 7 games, with the most goals ever conceded by a PL side by that time and failed to act. It'll be OK.

 

I've tried to refrain from using the "culture change" phrase when it comes to football clubs as I think it's a phrase parroted by managers like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to mask their own incompetence. But in this instance there really is a flawed culture at this club now. We may get lucky again - Glover may have just found a batch of quality players to sign* that do get us back up, but I think some of the operation in the last 12 months has been deeply alarming. Relegation on the back of six straight top half finishes and yet seemingly no signs of learning

 

* Glover bloody better have some good players identified as well (January doesn't look like a great start). This is a bloke we allowed to see out a summer with Southampton while we left a crucial role unfilled. If he isn't any good then why in gods name did we go for him? I'm expecting results from him, given we've made that sacrifice just to bring him in.

[Dan]

5 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

News he is co-leading the official review / lessons learned process and runs Top’s horse business suggests he is going nowhere.

 

But agree we need a top DofF to help rebuild the Club.

 

if they think all they need to do is appoint the ‘right’ manager we are likely to make the same mistakes.

That's the kind of thinking they have - get the 'right' manager and Rudkin can continue in his role conning the club if the manager bails him out. We were so lucky with Pearson, that he pretty much was a DoF / manager. 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I really think there's a possibility that this happens as well. It took only basic data to back up the eye test in 2021/22 that we were clearly on the decline. Yet the clubs response to this was a summer of inaction, failing to back or sack the manager (I'd have sacked but doing neither is worse than backing him). They really did think that we were big enough to take a year off and be OK. They even got fired a warning sign with 1 point from the opening 7 games, with the most goals ever conceded by a PL side by that time and failed to act. It'll be OK.

 

I've tried to refrain from using the "culture change" phrase when it comes to football clubs as I think it's a phrase parroted by managers like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to mask their own incompetence. But in this instance there really is a flawed culture at this club now. We may get lucky again - Glover may have just found a batch of quality players to sign* that do get us back up, but I think some of the operation in the last 12 months has been deeply alarming. Relegation on the back of six straight top half finishes and yet seemingly no signs of learning

 

* Glover bloody better have some good players identified as well (January doesn't look like a great start). This is a bloke we allowed to see out a summer with Southampton while we left a crucial role unfilled. If he isn't any good then why in gods name did we go for him? I'm expecting results from him, given we've made that sacrifice just to bring him in.

Would rather have a good DoF arrive than some decent signings, let them realign the club in a better direction as we clearly need to clean house.

[Dan]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Would rather have a good DoF arrive than some decent signings, let them realign the club in a better direction as we clearly need to clean house.

Same here - with a competent DoF the other things will fall into place gradually. With a bad one it's quite the opposite. And with us it's quite clear that this rot has kicked in.

 

There has always been a part of me that has suspected that we had flaws in our process but we were simply still profiting from the work of previous eras. I mean we had Vardy & Schmeichel at the club from the Championship days. That's a huge advantage we've had that has helped prop us up.

 

The bit about Glover's signings however is just simply that if he pulls us a good window out of the bag (subject to Rudkin not ****ing up) we may get away with it again. But we can't keep chancing it that we get lucky. It will always catch up with you in the end. Like it has today.

[cruzFOX]

Top has got himself too close to this nob head! Rudkin he’s so far up top’s arse it will require surgery to remove him.

[StriderHiryu]

2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

That's the kind of thinking they have - get the 'right' manager and Rudkin can continue in his role conning the club if the manager bails him out. We were so lucky with Pearson, that he pretty much was a DoF / manager. 

Totally agree with this but it’s notable that in Pearson and Rodgers, Rudkin went for Alex Ferguson style managers who oversaw pretty much the whole club whilst he didn’t interfere much. So MAYBE it’s possible that we appoint a DOF and Rudkin becomes Head of Sports or something for King Power and day to day football activities are relinquished to someone else?

 

For what it’s worth I think he needs to go immediately. This season wasn’t one mistake, it’s about 20 off field decisions all mishandled at the same time! 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I would love Rudkin to resign or be fired, but it’s highly unlikely, all we can hope for is that as part of the review and in an attempt to save his own skin and reputation, there is a realisation that a restructure is required which sees Rudkin carry on with KP but steps away from LCFC and somebody new comes in to completely reshape the club. 

[Mike Oxlong]

Bayern sacked their DOF within minutes of winning the title. Come on Top, it’s time for you to show that you can actually show leadership and be decisive 🪓 

[Daggers]

12 hours ago, Livid said:

Careful what we wish for here

@Mark

 

If this season has taught us anything, it’s that the use of this phrase should result in an instant permaban.

[kingkisnorbo]

[Brizzle Fox]

3 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Gotta love Wikipedia 

[Trumpet]

I don’t care how entrenched at the club he is, he’s got to go. This is just the start of our fall if he remains around the club. He’s a weasel and shouldn’t be anywhere near the decision making end of a professional football club. He should be a supervisor in the club shop, at best.

[RoboFox]

Can’t wait for absolutely nothing to change.

[Daggers]

14 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Can’t wait for absolutely nothing to change.

 

[don_danbury]

9 hours ago, erlee said:

Top probably wasn't aware of the Everton permutation for a draw/win. . . no foggy idea

bloody hell imagine  

[hackneyfox]

8 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

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* Glover bloody better have some good players identified as well (January doesn't look like a great start). This is a bloke we allowed to see out a summer with Southampton while we left a crucial role unfilled. If he isn't any good then why in gods name did we go for him? I'm expecting results from him, given we've made that sacrifice just to bring him in.

I thought Southampton put him on gardening leave. We had no choice in the matter.

[frany104]

Has he gone yet??? #RudkinOUT

[Guest Mee-9]

If anything his story teaches us we can all achieve our dreams and do what we want.

 

From mini bus driver of the academy lads to a member of the board. 

 

It's a rise to fame last seen around the Bethlehem area a few millennia ago. 

[Fazzer 7]

1 hour ago, RoboFox said:

Can’t wait for absolutely nothing to change.

Probably prove to be a good call

[berniethebolt]

18 hours ago, The Doctor said:

he's not in charge with the women's team, started the season with Kirk as DoF

Must be why they survived the drop then!