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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, HarryDee8 said:

Can't one of the ex-staff just whistle blow and out this guy for whether he is good or bad. 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Bezzanator89 said:

Ugh, he's safe again isn't he? FFS.

I've heard a handful of middle aged women of a certain age have registered complaints...

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Posted
11 hours ago, Bezzanator89 said:

Ugh, he's safe again isn't he? FFS.

Was never really in doubt internally, as he's more highly-valued within the organisation than the supporters' opinions on him.

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I think regardless of whether Rudkin keeps his job or not, with Enzo and RVN speaking in depth about the club (pro’s and con’s) I would imagine Enzo mentioned the need for the board level to expanded and for some reason I feel RVN will be backing that point.

 

Rudkin can take a salary as far as I care as long as his roles are delegated to the correct people and his involvement is just a yes man to Top.

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The journo Tom Collomosse on the last BSLB podcast seemed to suggest that he thought the issue was Rudkin being spread too thin (unless I am mistaken?). I am, like many, not happy with his track record and naivety with which he seems to have spaffed our strong position as a club up the wall. But I do wonder whether the issue is that he needs good people around him like a dedicated sporting director? Instead of doing several jobs to a poor standard.

 

And ask yourself why this situation has occurred. I don’t know the answer to that. Is Top and KP too tight to employ other people or something?

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3 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

The journo Tom Collomosse on the last BSLB podcast seemed to suggest that he thought the issue was Rudkin being spread too thin (unless I am mistaken?). I am, like many, not happy with his track record and naivety with which he seems to have spaffed our strong position as a club up the wall. But I do wonder whether the issue is that he needs good people around him like a dedicated sporting director? Instead of doing several jobs to a poor standard.

 

And ask yourself why this situation has occurred. I don’t know the answer to that. Is Top and KP too tight to employ other people or something?

I think it's easy when things are going well, to rest on your morals and forget why things are going well, with an assumption the gravy train will continue.

 

I'm of the opinion, after two 5th places and an FA Cup they were total invested in Rodgers and his view a couple of signings would see us hit the big time CL spots.

 

Rodger probably did think the signs would'nt stop if we didn't get CL football.

 

By the time they all stopped drinking the kool-aid it was too late.

 

As for Top probably had a distraction sorting out a billion dollar business gutted by C19.

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He made the right decision axing Cooper quicker than expected (not sure if it was HIS or Tops) but if we are to criticise for every football decision he has made in the past we should praise for the good ones. 
 

RvN looks like a masterstroke so far, not sure anyone on this forum will see credit in the bank until we are safe from R and sign some quality over the next 2 windows. Jan could be interesting. 

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2 hours ago, HarryDee8 said:

How much have we got to spend in January? I keep hearing news we still struggling under PSR crap

Depends if Top wants to gamble or not.

 

If he does gamble and we fail PSR it would be classed as our first time because we wasn't found guilty the 1st time.

 

Could see him spending 50 Mill.

 

 

 

Maybe

Posted
23 minutes ago, Fox85 said:

Depends if Top wants to gamble or not.

 

If he does gamble and we fail PSR it would be classed as our first time because we wasn't found guilty the 1st time.

 

Could see him spending 50 Mill.

 

 

 

Maybe

Our accounts end on the last day of June. So whatever has happened between July 23 and June 24 has happened. We don’t know the outcome of these yet but KDH and Enzo going. Plus Barnes to Newcastle and reduced wage bill all fall in to that period. That’s some serious pure profit, coupled with a low amortised spend last summer. I think we’ll be ok
 

For July 24 to June 25 I’m hoping we’ve joined the “if you can’t beat them, join them club. Flaunt the rules. Spend money where it’s needed and if that means in June we sell a random academy lad for £15m to Villa in a clear case of cooking the books then I’m all for it. PSR is the absolute pits 

 

I think the early (late in my opinion) sacking of Cooper shows Top has learned. We were shit scared of PSR last time and tried to ride out our financial mistakes. I think we’ll back Ruud and we’ll find a loop hole to stick two more fingers up at the FA if needed

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13 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

I think it's easy when things are going well, to rest on your morals and forget why things are going well, with an assumption the gravy train will continue.

 

I'm of the opinion, after two 5th places and an FA Cup they were total invested in Rodgers and his view a couple of signings would see us hit the big time CL spots.

 

Rodger probably did think the signs would'nt stop if we didn't get CL football.

 

By the time they all stopped drinking the kool-aid it was too late.

 

As for Top probably had a distraction sorting out a billion dollar business gutted by C19.

New one to me, this :) 

Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

I think it's easy when things are going well, to rest on your morals 

Nah that's laurely wrong.

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Posted
12 hours ago, Tommy G said:

He made the right decision axing Cooper quicker than expected (not sure if it was HIS or Tops) but if we are to criticise for every football decision he has made in the past we should praise for the good ones. 
 

RvN looks like a masterstroke so far, not sure anyone on this forum will see credit in the bank until we are safe from R and sign some quality over the next 2 windows. Jan could be interesting. 

Rudkins the clown who signed Cooper in the first place but you want him having credit for then sacking him!!!lol

 

If you make enough  decisions  eventually you are going to get a couple right

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2 hours ago, Raj said:

Rudkins the clown who signed Cooper in the first place but you want him having credit for then sacking him!!!lol

 

If you make enough  decisions  eventually you are going to get a couple right

I didn’t say credit. Point being if you make a daft mistake, a bigger mistake is not to rectify it quickly. He could have quite easily dithered until after Xmas or beyond. 
 

Second part of my post was saying he doesn’t have any credit in the bank atm. 
 

Finally, quite likely Cooper was a realistic option with the PSR situation before the successful appeal. 

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1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

I didn’t say credit. Point being if you make a daft mistake, a bigger mistake is not to rectify it quickly. He could have quite easily dithered until after Xmas or beyond. 
 

Second part of my post was saying he doesn’t have any credit in the bank atm. 
 

Finally, quite likely Cooper was a realistic option with the PSR situation before the successful appeal. 

But you did say Praise him???

 

should praise for the good ones. 

 

let me confirm right then...YOU  want to Parise Rudkin!!!???

 

Just comeback on that for us all!!!!:thumbup::D
 

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1 minute ago, Raj said:

But you did say Praise him???

 

should praise for the good ones. 

 

let me confirm right then...YOU  want to Parise Rudkin!!!???

 

Just comeback on that for us all!!!!:thumbup::D
 

I said you should praise him for good decisions alongside criticism for the bad, not sure whats so wild about that? 

 

I said it was the right decision to axe Cooper, was it not then? Are you saying we shouldn't of sacked him?

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5 hours ago, sylofox said:

Nah that's laurely wrong.

 

5 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

New one to me, this :) 

 

5 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

What? lol

 

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I'm blaming my stinking cold and auto correct. :ph34r:

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It's been reported in the press that Top had doubts about Cooper's appointment and he took action to axe him early, so reading between the lines the appointment of Cooper was influenced by those around Top and the removal of him driven largely by Top. Not sure who deserves what credit there 😂

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1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

I said you should praise him for good decisions alongside criticism for the bad, not sure whats so wild about that? 

 

I said it was the right decision to axe Cooper, was it not then? Are you saying we shouldn't of sacked him?

So you DID say Rudkin deserves praise!!!

 

 

Just putting that out there for all to see!!:D:D:D

Posted
34 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It's been reported in the press that Top had doubts about Cooper's appointment and he took action to axe him early, so reading between the lines the appointment of Cooper was influenced by those around Top and the removal of him driven largely by Top. Not sure who deserves what credit there 😂

I think there is a narrative that's now built up around Rudkin that every bad decision is his and every perceived good decision must be someone elses. It's a bit like when Steve Walsh was here and every good signing was one of his and every bad one was down to the manager. 

 

Not sure of the reality of all this, but the truth is that we've been an excellently run club for much of Rudkin's reign. It all seemed to fall apart when Brendan was here and all the support staff started to be replaced with others. Signings became poor alongside inflated contracts that didn't match the quality of the player. The good decisions of previous eras were all undone over a short space of time. 

 

Ultimately, if JR is accountable for all this, you'd think that his position would be under review. It may be that DOFs have a shelf life in the same way that manager's do. A "hate figure" is always needed when a team's prospects start to nosedive. Rudkin has become that figure - especially now Steve Cooper has left - and I don't see that changing until or unless we start to have a significant uptick in our fortunes  

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