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Sol thewall Bamba

Rudkin

By Sol thewall Bamba, in Leicester City Forum

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Wymsey

Wymsey

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So, no banners protesting against the club or members of its management are allowed?

 

If so, it's like hospitals ripping up patient feedback forms..

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The_77

The_77

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6 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

This says that Rudkin has a reputation for being a tough negotiator. Is he taking the piss?

Hey, it’s a mean feat to get that fee for Danny Ward up to £12M from £120K. 

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grth2004

grth2004

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1 hour ago, Daggers said:

Try popping the URL into this

Wow that works thanks although I’ve just read far too much about Rudkins life and feel like his stalker now. 

Zear0

Zear0

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3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I think it probably would have

We'd have retained the league, possibly even bagged a third if he wasn't here.

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-sodapop

-sodapop

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7 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Without him, the title-winning season wouldn't have happened?..:dunno:

No matter how you slice it, Ranieri was more important and he was out the next season. He can't eat out on being DoF of that title win forever.

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CheeseHead

CheeseHead

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5 hours ago, Daggers said:

Gerald Ratner is free

Well, he has had success working with 'total crap' before, so its a yes from me

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Gamble92

Gamble92

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1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Without him, the title-winning season wouldn't have happened?..:dunno:

Think even if you want to credit anything to him for that season (and that's a massive stretch by the way) then I think he's well and truly dined out on that one until the wheels fell off don't you?

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Bob Hazels shorts

Bob Hazels shorts

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2 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Without him, the title-winning season wouldn't have happened?..:dunno:

Laughable 

 

Pearson didn’t get on with him and both him and Walsh basically ignored him and were both DOF but not in name

 

 Brenda was a big mate of JR, that’s reflected in his abysmal player purchases

 

The loan of Bertrand orchestrated by Brenda’s agent son was criminal 

 

The rot started with BR

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Lambert09

Lambert09

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I have a theory on Rudkin and it’s actually to do with the “tough negotiator” tagline. 

 

I think that he found success by being exactly that, a tough negotiatior. We got people for bargain fees. we refused to sell without pulling down the pants of the people buying… it was glorious. But that actually had a huge ripple effect. Players agents realised that we would be a tough club to leave as we’d demand a lot of money and that led to increased wage demands.  The stars got paid what we needed to keep them which then largely inflated everything, to the point where players like hamza choudhury could demand a huge wage. 

 

Not only that, clubs and agents got wise to his hard line. Clubs retaliate and if they know you tow a hardline, they also refuse to drop fees for you. our reputation grew as a club that would pay over the odds and that leads to clubs demanding it. what happened with palace is an example of this, we knock on the door for ayew, ordinarily they’d have probably let him got for a pittance… similar to how we let kasper leave… but because of rudkins reputation, they pushed for a high fee and as soon as they knew how interested we were, they stayed firm. If you want to be a tough negotiator that’s fine, but people will react to that.

 

Football is analyzed in all aspects, you’d be ignorant to think clubs don’t research how clubs negotiate. That’s partly why it’s important to keep things fresh. 

 

Spurs literally just did exactly what they did with winks, again with skipp because they knew how we operated. they’d say he’s worth 30m rudkin would get it down to 23m and think he’s won. Meanwhile levy has a notebook saying sell skipp  for 10m. 

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KFS

KFS

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31 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I have a theory on Rudkin and it’s actually to do with the “tough negotiator” tagline. 

 

I think that he found success by being exactly that, a tough negotiatior. We got people for bargain fees. we refused to sell without pulling down the pants of the people buying… it was glorious. But that actually had a huge ripple effect. Players agents realised that we would be a tough club to leave as we’d demand a lot of money and that led to increased wage demands.  The stars got paid what we needed to keep them which then largely inflated everything, to the point where players like hamza choudhury could demand a huge wage. 

 

Not only that, clubs and agents got wise to his hard line. Clubs retaliate and if they know you tow a hardline, they also refuse to drop fees for you. our reputation grew as a club that would pay over the odds and that leads to clubs demanding it. what happened with palace is an example of this, we knock on the door for ayew, ordinarily they’d have probably let him got for a pittance… similar to how we let kasper leave… but because of rudkins reputation, they pushed for a high fee and as soon as they knew how interested we were, they stayed firm. If you want to be a tough negotiator that’s fine, but people will react to that.

 

Football is analyzed in all aspects, you’d be ignorant to think clubs don’t research how clubs negotiate. That’s partly why it’s important to keep things fresh. 

 

Spurs literally just did exactly what they did with winks, again with skipp because they knew how we operated. they’d say he’s worth 30m rudkin would get it down to 23m and think he’s won. Meanwhile levy has a notebook saying sell skipp  for 10m. 

Yep and the only way to reset Leicester and our approach in these rooms is to have someone new saunter in there and set out what we are. I get that we had to take risks and keep hold of our players to kick on, but he and the rest of the board have been shown up as completely naive and inexperienced in how to take a club to the next level. You can have an ‘elite coach’ and 100m training ground all you like, but poorly executing plan that strays away from what made you successful in the first place lands you in this shit.

 

All this points to a massive clear out of the decks at all levels. We’ve got 13 players who aren’t in their last year and don’t have resell value that we’ll start the championship with next season. Very loosely, the plan should be to clear out any earners higher than 50k p/w, fill the gaps with youth teamers, go back to data-based scouting and unearthing gems, as well as clearing out the exec team (Jon included) and a whole new coaching staff.

 

The bans and deductions will feel painful on us fans but it may force some radical and necessary change at the club. I love the idea mentioned earlier that Top could move to become a minority stakeholder so to honour his father’s legacy, but good god bring a main investor in who knows what they’re doing. 
 

I’m not looking for Saudi or US mega investment, just preferably an owner who gets it and who’s literal culture doesn’t encourage them to cover things up in fear of losing face when we can all see what’s actually happening. Being relegated again is far more embarrassing than sticking their hands up and saying the whole operation is in the toilet and needs radical overhaul. 

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Dan

Dan

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1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

I have a theory on Rudkin and it’s actually to do with the “tough negotiator” tagline. 

 

I think that he found success by being exactly that, a tough negotiatior. We got people for bargain fees. we refused to sell without pulling down the pants of the people buying… it was glorious. But that actually had a huge ripple effect. Players agents realised that we would be a tough club to leave as we’d demand a lot of money and that led to increased wage demands.  The stars got paid what we needed to keep them which then largely inflated everything, to the point where players like hamza choudhury could demand a huge wage. 

 

Not only that, clubs and agents got wise to his hard line. Clubs retaliate and if they know you tow a hardline, they also refuse to drop fees for you. our reputation grew as a club that would pay over the odds and that leads to clubs demanding it. what happened with palace is an example of this, we knock on the door for ayew, ordinarily they’d have probably let him got for a pittance… similar to how we let kasper leave… but because of rudkins reputation, they pushed for a high fee and as soon as they knew how interested we were, they stayed firm. If you want to be a tough negotiator that’s fine, but people will react to that.

 

Football is analyzed in all aspects, you’d be ignorant to think clubs don’t research how clubs negotiate. That’s partly why it’s important to keep things fresh. 

 

Spurs literally just did exactly what they did with winks, again with skipp because they knew how we operated. they’d say he’s worth 30m rudkin would get it down to 23m and think he’s won. Meanwhile levy has a notebook saying sell skipp  for 10m. 

The flip side is Spurs themselves are notoriously tough to negotiate with and I don't see them getting bent over a barrel on a frequent basis like we are. Get your point but in reality Rudkin's just blagged it for years. We built up a fantastic position very quickly, largely the work of Pearson and Walsh, given a second wind by Puel and Macia (debatable on Puel really) and we've been running off the coattails of that for years. No surprise that once our elite striker has slowed down, the cracks have really started to show.

 

I'm glad I no longer have to stress how bad Rudkin is on here anymore though - it's largely accepted he's completely useless. Now it's about getting people onto the one who continues to employ him.

 

42 minutes ago, KFS said:

Yep and the only way to reset Leicester and our approach in these rooms is to have someone new saunter in there and set out what we are. I get that we had to take risks and keep hold of our players to kick on, but he and the rest of the board have been shown up as completely naive and inexperienced in how to take a club to the next level. You can have an ‘elite coach’ and 100m training ground all you like, but poorly executing plan that strays away from what made you successful in the first place lands you in this shit.

 

All this points to a massive clear out of the decks at all levels. We’ve got 13 players who aren’t in their last year and don’t have resell value that we’ll start the championship with next season. Very loosely, the plan should be to clear out any earners higher than 50k p/w, fill the gaps with youth teamers, go back to data-based scouting and unearthing gems, as well as clearing out the exec team (Jon included) and a whole new coaching staff.

 

The bans and deductions will feel painful on us fans but it may force some radical and necessary change at the club. I love the idea mentioned earlier that Top could move to become a minority stakeholder so to honour his father’s legacy, but good god bring a main investor in who knows what they’re doing. 
 

I’m not looking for Saudi or US mega investment, just preferably an owner who gets it and who’s literal culture doesn’t encourage them to cover things up in fear of losing face when we can all see what’s actually happening. Being relegated again is far more embarrassing than sticking their hands up and saying the whole operation is in the toilet and needs radical overhaul. 

Literally anything is preferable to this. I'd happily take relegation if it guaranteed heads rolled.

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The Doctor

The Doctor

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10 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Wonder if he has slight hesitation in going out of the house in the mornings, fearing potential abuse..

let's be honest, he doesn't know or care what the fanbase think

daddylonglegs

daddylonglegs

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17 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

With this ownership, a group of fans holding up a banner against anyone of the King Powers will mean an attempt to instanly ban them - it would at the very least mean any sort of consent to hold up any sort of banner/tifo like they have done in the past will instantly be banned. 

 

Its unfair to expect a group like UFS who do a lot of good to risk their position. If anything, a protest outside the ground with large numbers (whether members of UFS or not) needs to be arranged. 

 

Yeah I'm not expecting UFS to do anything, it was more a point of intrigue as to what would prevent them doing so. I hadn't considered the banning stuff, which is definitely a good point.

 

However we don't live in North Korea. It is surely improbable to suggest that protesting ownership would lead to expulsion from the stadium? That is a seriously dangerous position to be in, if that is the actual case. 

AKCJ

AKCJ

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4 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said:

It's quite simple really, Rudkin is as arrogant as he is incompetent.

Dunno about that.


Most people say he's a good bloke to work with so I doubt he's arrogant.

 

He's just extremely out of his depth.

RoboFox

RoboFox

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3 minutes ago, GLC said:


 

Wonder how much he’s been paid to post that

“Was here be here before you” lol

 

I assume at least a handful of our fans are over 20 years old, right? 

 

Engagement bait nonsense.

ashbyj

ashbyj

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8 minutes ago, GLC said:


 

Wonder how much he’s been paid to post that

Nice bit of outrage bait like nearly everything on x twitter 

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