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Soumare

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1 hour ago, two8two said:

Soumare played 90 for Seville v Real last night. Enzo will have watched, does he got his chance if/when we are in the Prem?

If he still can't be bothered to do the basics like press and track back, absolutely not.

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1 hour ago, two8two said:

Soumare played 90 for Seville v Real last night. Enzo will have watched, does he got his chance if/when we are in the Prem?


 

 To be fair, it would save us some money.. it’s wether he’ll play the tune Enzo wants him to play or not…

 

 

But honestly, someone pays us the money we are asking and we will likely snap their hand off. It’s easier to get rid of a headache  than to try and  start from scratch..

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Well I hear the Filbert guy is retiring but then again that role involves doing several laps of the whole pitch every match day so it may be beyond him.

 

His idea of effort doesn't match the clubs, the minute you hand him a shirt you lower your standards and your expectations, I'm sure this system is better suited to him than last seasons but he didn't care enough to break a sweat for the cause, he lets people down.

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He'll be the new Praet. Nobody can afford to buy him off us but he'll never really break in to the first team. 

 

Best we can hope for is maybe breaking even with loan fees over the course of his contract and waving him off in a few years time. 

 

Be nice to be wrong. I think he has the skill profile to do well in the 8 role, he's technically an upgrade on Ndidi in terms of footballing ability. 

 

But just doesn't really seem to have the heart. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Why do we send players on loan to teams who are broke ffs?

 

No offence to you specifically but I'm getting more and more annoyed by posts like this every, single season. 

 

How much self awareness do you have to lack as an English football fan to sit here moaning every transfer window that clubs in Italy and Spain can't afford to compete with even Championship clubs in England for wages and fees. 

 

Like these ****ing clubs WANT to be skint. 

 

The Premier League (and English football in general) is absolutely suffocating the life out of the rest of the European game and fans of "little" Leicester City have the audacity to moan about Italian and Spanish clubs making supposedly low ball offers for players we ridiculously overpaid for because we have the enormous privilege to be able to. 

 

And some of these same fans will go off in another thread and bemoan X or Y about modern football or Man City or the Rich Six or Super Leagues or something with no sense of irony or humility. 

 

Makes me a bit queasy to be honest and I'm so ****ing sick of hearing it. 

 

Where is this unicorn football club with trillions to spend but players worse than ours that's desperate to get our hand me downs and cast offs and buy them from us for enough that the amortisation doesn't kill our FFP budget because they're more reckless and stupid than English clubs? 

 

Short of Top paying bungs to Saudi to do us a favour (which would make me even more sick) I'm not entirely sure what some of you are waiting for. Rudkin is shit because he can't convince clubs from a skint dying league to spend money they don't have on our rejects? 

 

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If he wants to be here in the prem I'd not be saying no to it, I think his skillset works well for the number 8 role but it all depends whether he's a confidence player who was just completely mentally broken by Rodgers, or whether he's just got a shit attitude. In reality, it'll be a Praet or Slimani situation, just a series of loans until his contract expires 

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IF there is anyone who can get the best out of him, it will be Maresca... But is Soumare up for it? thats the big question?

 

 

 

And i know the easier option is to accept a lower offer from Sevilla but it isn't just about about FFP..  Can we get someone of adequate skill and ability  to play that role in the prem for the money we get from him?

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His pressures per 90 were never great at Lille, iirc something in the 20th-30th percentile even when they won the league. He's just never going to put himself about enough and he doesn;t sense danger well enough to compensate. Both glaring issues with the way we defend, he' just not reliable enough to screen the defence.

 

Not as though his ability on the ball is worth the defensive drawbacks either, he can carry it well and sometimes picks out decent passes but his 1 career goal and 5 assists say it all. He's about as threatening as Hermansen.

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2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

His pressures per 90 were never great at Lille, iirc something in the 20th-30th percentile even when they won the league. He's just never going to put himself about enough and he doesn;t sense danger well enough to compensate. Both glaring issues with the way we defend, he' just not reliable enough to screen the defence.

 

Not as though his ability on the ball is worth the defensive drawbacks either, he can carry it well and sometimes picks out decent passes but his 1 career goal and 5 assists say it all. He's about as threatening as Hermansen.

 

This is low key really offensive to Hermansen. 

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As others have said, I think he'd be better as an 8 rather than sitting in front of the defence. He's got a decent pass when he can be arsed, but he just can't track a runner, tackle or help out the defence. 

 

If he had Winks and KDH behind him to help out when an oppo player jogs past him and to feed him balls to play into the attacking players, he might do well. 

 

Or, he could be just as bad as an 8 as he was a 6. 

 

I haven't seen enough of him to think he's got what we need and I think we are the last place on earth he wants to come back to. 

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58 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

If he wants to be here in the prem I'd not be saying no to it, I think his skillset works well for the number 8 role but it all depends whether he's a confidence player who was just completely mentally broken by Rodgers, or whether he's just got a shit attitude. In reality, it'll be a Praet or Slimani situation, just a series of loans until his contract expires 

I must admit I find it difficult to relate to players who are seemingly* happy to coast along on a big contract. Since the games are being watched, they'd only need to play out of their skins for a few months in order to get a big money move to Chelsea or Man U etc. 

 

* Of course I'm probably being unfair to them, and they really haven't the skills or attributes to succeed at the top. In either case it shows we misjudged matters in making the signing.

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58 minutes ago, Viva said:

I'd take a loss on him with FFP and make the money up elsewhere to get him off the books. Otherwise it will be loan after loan until his contract runs out. 

 

There's nothing wrong with loaning him out every year if the fees cover his amortisation (approx 3.5m a year I think?) and his wages are paid. Perfectly legitimate way of making money and can turn him in to a net win. 

 

That said, it'll be much easier to sell him this coming summer. He'll have been here 3 of the 5 years of his contract if I'm not forgetting something so his book value will only be around 7m.

 

I'll be surprised if we can't get ~10m for him to make it a slight gain. So if we broke even on him this year (actually doubtful if I'm honest but not impossible) his general impact on FFP wouldn't be too horrific. 

 

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