JimJams Posted 26 April 2024 Posted 26 April 2024 Genuinely think it should be against the rules to inflict a points deduction once the season is underway. So hopefully everyone agrees and they forget to do it in the summer. 1
copunk Posted 26 April 2024 Posted 26 April 2024 We know it's coming, every single fan has got a huge part to play next season, we know its going to be one of the toughest seasons we've ever had, let's go out and give it a proper go, what will be will be
Corky Posted 26 April 2024 Posted 26 April 2024 Hope we know early. Need to get off to a strong start. We must never be in this position again, sort it out behind the scenes.
SafewayFox Posted 26 April 2024 Posted 26 April 2024 As others have said I’d take -6 if given before a ball is kicked and know what the charges are. I also wouldn’t be against us being the first club to have to remove our DoF as an additional penalty too? 👀 1
Babylon Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 4 hours ago, Walshy5 said: They'll look for all the excuses to throw the book at us and punish us as much as is legally possible because let's face it, everyone hates us! I reckon -10 at the very least! What was the amount for admin? Wasn’t that -10? They can’t really give the same or more than that so it’s going to be 6 to 9 realistically.
JimmyC74 Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 (edited) I thought minus nine was the standard for administration so, even with the aggravation of our threatening legal action, I can’t see the penalty being greater than this. however, I see the IC decision, then guaranteed appeal creating uncertainty around the final outcome and dragging things out beyond the beginning of the season. Edited 27 April 2024 by JimmyC74
Popular Post Babylon Posted 27 April 2024 Popular Post Posted 27 April 2024 26 minutes ago, Lionator said: Percy reckons it’s double figures How on earth can they explain that one when administration = 9 points. 7
Bilo Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 Reading carefully, he says that the 'initial proposed penalty could be double figures.' The IPP for Forest was 8 points and was whittled down to 4, with similar negotiations over Everton once the independent panel looked at it. Also, as has already been said, there's only a 9 point deduction in place for administration/insolvency, so that would likely be seen as disproportionate.
kenny Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 4 minutes ago, Bilo said: Reading carefully, he says that the 'initial proposed penalty could be double figures.' The IPP for Forest was 8 points and was whittled down to 4, with similar negotiations over Everton once the independent panel looked at it. Also, as has already been said, there's only a 9 point deduction in place for administration/insolvency, so that would likely be seen as disproportionate. There could be 2 penalties applied at the same time. Based upon Forest they could go for 16 points as a starter.
Bilo Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 2 minutes ago, kenny said: There could be 2 penalties applied at the same time. Based upon Forest they could go for 16 points as a starter. What would the second one be for? If there was one, based on Everton, it would be lenient as one had already been applied in the season. Everton 'could' have got 20 points in total but ended up with 8.
kenny Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 18 minutes ago, Bilo said: What would the second one be for? If there was one, based on Everton, it would be lenient as one had already been applied in the season. Everton 'could' have got 20 points in total but ended up with 8. This season? Who knows they seem to be making it up.
Bilo Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 37 minutes ago, kenny said: This season? Who knows they seem to be making it up. Indeed, but they seem to be getting more cautious and lenient. I suspect they'll drop them altogether given how much of a mess applying them has caused.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 Whatever the deduction is, I actually think it will galvanise the whole club, we always seem to be at our best when we are the underdogs and things are against us. Let’s pull together now and show that Fearless and Foxes Never Quit spirit and attitude. 1
Bilo Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 9 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said: What we reckon now then, -6? I think that's about right. It's what Forest would have gotten if they hadn't cooperated.
ClaphamFox Posted 27 April 2024 Author Posted 27 April 2024 2 minutes ago, Bilo said: I think that's about right. It's what Forest would have gotten if they hadn't cooperated. We also have the opportunity to cooperate with the panel that reviews our case.
Nolucklcfc Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 8 minutes ago, Bilo said: I think that's about right. It's what Forest would have gotten if they hadn't cooperated. Then hopefully argued down by Nick
Nolucklcfc Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 1 hour ago, kenny said: There could be 2 penalties applied at the same time. Based upon Forest they could go for 16 points as a starter. Then it just isn’t competitive, there has to be a deduction that still means you can compete otherwise it’s all pointless
Free Falling Foxes Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 5 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Have we got a good lawyer? 🤔🙄 We could do with 'Mr. Loop Hole' type lawyer who somehow demonstrates that Rudkin and Rodgers were at fault. Rudkin gets a hefty fine and by some bizarre legal quirk, Celtic get the points deduction. 3
Ricey Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 Logically it should be -6, regardless of what the Premier League propose. Their proposals so far have been laughable. Question is, if we do breach for this season, can the EFL touch us? Previously clubs like ourselves and Fulham have broken FFP en route to promotion and agreed a settlement with the EFL.
davieG Posted 27 April 2024 Posted 27 April 2024 9 hours ago, Spudulike said: So where does this now leave us? EFL can't touch us but PL can chuck the kitchen sink? Nick de Marco's blue n white army I presume the EFL could still fine us or retain the right to deduct points if/when we got relegated again. In this mixed up world of pantomime football finance anything could happen.
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