Leicester 'could face points deduction next season'

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Oh god please let us be "forced" to cash in on Hamza

We've raised his amortization with a massive new contract. 

 

4D chess.

[Super_horns]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Assume villa voted against it because they now consider themselves a European comp club so have to meet uefa 70% t/o rules. 

Smacks of our attempts to stop those below catching us up a few years ago when we sided with the greedy six 

No surprise at some of the teams  who voted against .

 

As it probably means they cannot pay the silly wage meaning players won’t come to them .

[Foxdiamond]

2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

More sinister bollocks:

 

"Leicester have already been charged with breaching the Premier League's PSR limits last season, which is set to lead to a points deduction in the top-flight next season, particularly given any hope of mitigation has been removed by their aggressive legal threats."

 

Are you ****ing serious? The Premier League is the aggressor here. We're just defending ourselves BY MAKING SURE THEY ADHERE TO THEIR OWN RULES.

 

We've already caught them out for breaking their own rules TWICE.

 

We haven't asked for leniency or special treatment. Just that they treat us fairly, under the rules that applied to us in the time we were in their league.

 

The fact that journalists are using this sort of inflammatory language, when we now have two rulings and Everton's report in early April proving the Premier League are behaving irrationally and aggressively, is honestly disgraceful.

Well put. That we've caught them out twice illustrates how bent the authorities are. This article smacks of the sort of plea bargain nonsense that goes on in criminal cases particularly in US. Don't dare defend yourself using the full legal process and accept guilty plea for a so called lesser sentence. At least this is only football and not more serious 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Foxdiamond said:

Well put. That we've caught them out twice illustrates how bent the authorities are. This article smacks of the sort of plea bargain nonsense that goes on in criminal cases particularly in US. Don't dare defend yourself using the full legal process and accept guilty plea for a so called lesser sentence. At least this is only football and not more serious 

Wasn’t it the EFL who broke the rules?

[st albans fox]

27 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

No surprise at some of the teams  who voted against .

 

As it probably means they cannot pay the silly wage meaning players won’t come to them .

I think the fact that Man City can only just manage within this new structure shows who it would affect most -  those paying biggest wages. 
the rich six expect to keep growing their commercial revenue and this anchoring will mean that they wouldn’t benefit from that re spending ability (as is currently the case /will be the case with uefa’s rules)

 

interesting that Liverpool and spurs didn’t oppose - two clubs with owners that don’t want to invest heavily. Man Utd with their enormous commercial revenue would certainly not want it. Man City clearly want to be able to draw up the drawbridge now they’re the biggest earning club. 
 

Villa are being short sighted imo

[Foxdiamond]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Wasn’t it the EFL who broke the rules?

Don't trust either governing body 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Foxdiamond said:

Don't trust either governing body 

Neither do I but that’s not a defence unfortunately, as pretty sure prime muppets were the EFL acting tough (but looking dumb)

[los dedos]

Does anyone ever get the impression this footballing authorities are a bit thick .

Seem like they make these rules up using sub standard legal advice .

All clubs need to do is hire a decent lawyer to rip them to spreadsheet. 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, los dedos said:

Does anyone ever get the impression this footballing authorities are a bit thick .

Seem like they make these rules up using sub standard legal advice .

All clubs need to do is hire a decent lawyer to rip them to spreadsheet. 

Not sure they are thick, but they are so focused on what brings them the most money, these small details are given minimal attention.

[kenny]

19 minutes ago, los dedos said:

Does anyone ever get the impression this footballing authorities are a bit thick .

Seem like they make these rules up using sub standard legal advice .

All clubs need to do is hire a decent lawyer to rip them to spreadsheet. 

They seem to assume they can do what they want and the clubs will roll over and do as they are told.

 

We appear to be the first club to take them to task and hold them to their own rules and they aren't clear how to react.

 

The 'rule breakers' thus far have been rich idiots in Moshiri and Marinakis. For all of KP's faults, they seem professional when it comes to legilative processes.

[Chrysalis]

Getting closer.

 

 

[Pliskin]

Forest allegedly getting another two points back? If this is the case, they may as well give everyone their points back, and just scrap the whole thing. Completely undermines the whole process….

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Pliskin said:

Forest allegedly getting another two points back? If this is the case, they may as well give everyone their points back, and just scrap the whole thing. Completely undermines the whole process….

 

Those two points will keep them up now.

[Pliskin]

Just now, Happy Fox said:

 

Those two points will keep them up now.

It’s a disgrace. 
 

When you look at the context of the breaches Forest’s is horrendous….. it’s their first season back in the premier league and they breach and have achieved nothing, we’ve had a decade of success and are getting punished for it. 

 

If it does keep them up, then I hope Burnley and Luton kick off….. the whole thing just needs putting in the bin they absolutely can’t go around taking points off some, and then giving them back for others, I’m glad we’ve got legal backing early doors, because it seems as though they’re just making the rules up as they go. 

[urban.spaceman]

14 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Forest allegedly getting another two points back? If this is the case, they may as well give everyone their points back, and just scrap the whole thing. Completely undermines the whole process….

The Luton fan on VAR will be ****ing furious. 

[ClaphamFox]

12 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It’s a disgrace. 
 

When you look at the context of the breaches Forest’s is horrendous….. it’s their first season back in the premier league and they breach and have achieved nothing, we’ve had a decade of success and are getting punished for it. 

 

If it does keep them up, then I hope Burnley and Luton kick off….. the whole thing just needs putting in the bin they absolutely can’t go around taking points off some, and then giving them back for others, I’m glad we’ve got legal backing early doors, because it seems as though they’re just making the rules up as they go. 

But good news for us. 

[volpeazzurro]

17 hours ago, trooky said:

I don't see Everton having a mass clear out of players to raise money for PSR so why should we?

 

We're already in breach for 21-23 so what good will it do? 

 

Any home grown player sold will have to be replaced, so it's not going to make a huge difference. The pure profit will be spent on increased wages for replacements.

 

We will just have to appeal our punishments like Everton, reduce the wage bill and get on with it because other clubs are in the same mess.

They got rid of Cannon? 

[Pliskin]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

But good news for us. 

Very true. It’s just further confirms that the system isn’t fit for purpose and it just strengthens both Everton and ours claims. Just a mess.

[the draper]

This points penalty stuff is beginning to undermine the whole league and damage the product 

 

They will ditch it soon to allow for clubs to go back to spending wildly and ensuring we remain the best product on the market 

 

In the 1990's Italian football was sold all over the globe it was the benchmark for leagues in Europe, it died and we took over but the market is fickle and the product is boring now 

 

They will change the rules soon 

 

The product must be protected 

[Dahnsouff]

The PL should be told to explain how the process of elevating a club from promotion from the Championship (Or lower leagues in reality, for completeness) to competing at the highest levels works, as they are viewed (perhaps incorrectly) as some overseer across the entire league structure  (Via solidarity payments to all league levels) and should be asked to clarify how this competitions integrity is preserved under their funding. 

Of particular interest is how a new PL entrant could hope to aspire to further success (or as should be obvious in reality is if the ultimate destination for any club in the PL's eyes, is arrival at the PL and no further)

[Spudulike]

All this talk about new sponsorship of the stadium, kit, Seagrave to raise funds to satisfy PS&R but no mention of doing the same for individual stands. Missing a trick there unless they are?

[OntarioFox]

4 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

All this talk about new sponsorship of the stadium, kit, Seagrave to raise funds to satisfy PS&R but no mention of doing the same for individual stands. Missing a trick there unless they are?

Already got one allocated for Vards as the "Chat Shit Get Stand"

[st albans fox]

43 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

All this talk about new sponsorship of the stadium, kit, Seagrave to raise funds to satisfy PS&R but no mention of doing the same for individual stands. Missing a trick there unless they are?

There are supposed be checks and balances to make sure that clubs are not being overpaid for sponsorship deals.  There will be a ‘market value’ for our stadium sponsorship.  you make a reasonable point but we’d need to actually find companies who actually want to pay to sponsor stands in our stadium. 

[sylofox]

On 30/04/2024 at 07:12, Pliskin said:

 it seems as though they’re just making the rules up as they go. 

It's not the rules it's the punishments.

 

Let's be honest when you set up the rules you would have also done.

 

0 to 2m - 1pt

2 to 5m - 2pts

5 to 10m - 3pts and so on.

 

Then everyone would have known from the start and no arguments job done.

 

But no wait until someone outside the big six breaks the rules. Then let's think of a number.

 

Seriously a group of school kids could have done it better than the prem has.

 

They've made themselves and the great game a laughing stock.

[Nolucklcfc]

2 minutes ago, sylofox said:

It's not the rules it's the punishments.

 

Let's be honest when you set up the rules you would have also done.

 

0 to 2m - 1pt

2 to 5m - 2pts

5 to 10m - 3pts and so on.

 

Then everyone would have known from the start and no arguments job done.

 

But no wait until someone outside the big six breaks the rules. Then let's think of a number.

 

Seriously a group of school kids could have done it better than the prem has.

 

They've made themselves and the great game a laughing stock.

Your talking locally mate, people in charge of the rules aren’t able to access logic