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Tonight’s loss against Forest is on the players as much as Cooper. 
 

However they aren’t moving, running etc to generate space and chances.
 

That’s on Cooper to sort and if (we know he’s not) up to it, then he needs replacing by someone that can. 
 

The managers that have kept less teams in this league, have got players to run through walls for them. 
 

Cooper isn’t that manager. 

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In defence of Cooper, I actually thought our first half was pretty good, think we caught Forest by surprise with our set up. Also, two major mistakes in defence, complete coach killers. He can’t do much about those errors. I think Woods first was just excellent centre forward play.

 

But second half Forest adjusted, and his response was more attacking midfielders, and removing Ricardo who was freeing Winks up no end. 
 

The worrying part is players look like they don’t know where the goals are going to come from, and lack of coherent style of play. Our goal was players reverting to last seasons play and it flippin worked. That’s the indictment on Coops. Throwing on BEK, Soumare, Ayew, with Fatawu, Facundo and Vards was just throwing shit at a wall to see what stuck.

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1 minute ago, dr.o.ball said:

Well this game is on the players so good luck with a different manager using this lot...laughable how many think the players are prem quality 

As I said, the goals conceded aren't on him, individual errors. But he's clearly been outdone at ht by NES. If we'd lost that 3-1 but created a fair few chances and played ok 2nd half then yeah the blame lies fully with the players. That 2nd half performance was an abomination and that is on both Cooper and the players. 

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Just now, Sly said:

Tonight’s loss against Forest is on the players as much as Cooper. 
 

However they aren’t moving, running etc to generate space and chances.
 

That’s on Cooper to sort and if (we know he’s not) up to it, then he needs replacing by someone that can. 
 

The managers that have kept less teams in this league, have got players to run through walls for them. 
 

Cooper isn’t that manager. 

This. The effort of moving is on the players, the direction they move is mostly on the manager. 

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Bunch of bed wetters pissing the bed again because we lost.

 

3 stupid mistakes cost them goals, you got the team you wanted right?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

This. The effort of moving is on the players, the direction they move is mostly on the manager. 

Yeah, he definitely decided how Buonanotte and Faes and Winks moved for the goals they scored. 

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2 minutes ago, Micky said:

You can only work with what you've got. Our defence is just not good enough. 

Wasted money in the wrong places. 

 

Needed full backs and a quality center half in the summer.

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can't coach a team for shit. performance was no worse than any other performance we've put out this season, but his luck has run out. Bite the bullet, get this Pontypridd Pulis out and get in a manager worthy of the job title 

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He's still, currently, achieving the club's main aim - survival.

Whether tonight was appointing or not.

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So the turnaround against Southampton means that the players haven’t turned on Cooper?

 

Does that mean tonight’s lack of anything suggests they’re either 1) a bit shit 2) the media rumours earlier in the season are true and not having him or 3) bit of both.

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The bit I don't get - if you think the squad is shit then fine but surely in that case you would be even more keen to have a manager capable of elevating them above that level? The argument seems to be the players aren't good enough to stay in the league on their own merit so we might as well stick with our crap manager and make it even less likely.

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1 minute ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Yeah, he definitely decided how Buonanotte and Faes and Winks moved for the goals they scored. 

Of course individual errors are not on the manager, I'm talking about the general tactical play when i refer to the direction they move, we were gutless upfront, and often positioned poorly when being attacked, that is on cooper. The individual mistakes were not on him. 

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Just now, filbertway said:

The starting line up that had us 2-0 down to Southampton? Or something else? :D 

The line up that allowed us bring game changing subs on, that one.

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