Cooper - OUT

[The Doctor]

56 minutes ago, ForestAreMagic said:

 

Some good points in there.

Cooper did a fantastic job to keep us up, and you’re right - as a support base we thought he’d earned the right to get relegated with us, if it came to that.

 

On your point about us coming above you, it’s very clear what made the difference.  Forest and Everton had excellent goalkeepers, Leeds and Leicester had terrible ones.  

 

 

can you take him back and achieve that please?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I think there's something at this club where people can't criticise the ownership. We see it with managers, players and even once players have left too. When Albrighton announced his retirement he was on the radio saying how the club is "well run" like come on man we got relegated. Paid off job.

 

I don't even expect a manager to come out and openly criticise the ownership, but I always find the tone of the comments they make really weird and a bit much. By all means talk about a working relationship, projects, ambition etc. But if you gave me one guess which club in world football the quote "You feel comfortable around him, there’s definitely no fear, but a lot of respect. He’s got a big aura. You can be yourself" came out of with regards to ownership I don't think I'd need another go. 

 

The local as well as club media don't help of course, they definitely fish for this type of stuff.

Edited 31 October 2024 by Miquel The Work Geordie

[lcfcell]

That’s a huge boost for the players. The fact they won’t be able to see him on the touchline. 

[Footballwipe]

3 hours ago, LVFox said:

If a player had got suspended for being booked for dissent in a cup game with a big league match next up, he'd be getting pelters. 

 

Has bought the victim mentality Forest had about refs with him, and it's bloody annoying.

This is the bit that annoys me most about him tbh. you can just about deal with idiot fans who think refs are on the take or blaming them for losing, but the constant excuses from this manager are tiring already.

 

The win over Southampton masked pulled the rug over so many people's eyes. It's not even that he shouldn't be here, it's that we shouldn't have been in the position where we're recruiting crap and hiring bang average managers. Whilst the big clubs are at Harrod's and other clubs are at Waitrose, we're shopping at Lidl and B&M.

 

Not many clubs have spurted away the hope and opportunity we've had. First in 2016 when we spunked money on crap, then we got a second chance in 2019 and managed to fritter that away, too.

[Fear Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

 

Best Mates.

 

Cooper on Khun Top

‘I can see why this club has had the success it’s had with this ownership, because they make you feel like you want to do well’

‘When you engage with him (Top) and meet him, he’s kind-natured. You feel comfortable around him, there’s definitely no fear, but a lot of respect. He’s got a big aura. You can be yourself’

In a few words: "I convinced him I'm a football manager and he's paying me millions. Oh life's so good for me, I love the aura of of my bank account". 

[Craig]

He's simply out of his depth. 
 

You can see the team is clearly poorly coached by the vast amount of easy chances we give away, and lack of chances we manage to create (despite the talent we have in attack). 

We've grabbed some results, but I think most would agree that what we've seen on the pitch isn't a reflection of the points total we currently have. 
 

The bare minimum for any side looking to survive should be organisation. I'm not sure I've ever seen a less organised Leicester side defensively, 

 

We have a tough run coming up soon, and that'll almost certainly result in a poor run of form unless performances change dramatically.

 

So far there has been no real sign that things are improving. Maybe we were spoilt by Enzo last season, but the improvement and development of the system that was being implemented in the early stages was clear to see game after game. 

 

 

 

Edited 31 October 2024 by Craig

[Nolucklcfc]

1 minute ago, Craig said:

He's simply out of his depth. 
 

The team is clearly poorly coached by the vast amount of easy chances we give away, and lack of chances we manage to create (despite the talent we have in attack). 

We've grabbed some results, but I think most would agree that what we've seen on the pitch isn't a reflection of the points total we currently have. 
 

The bare minimum for any side looking to survive should be organisation. I'm not sure I've ever seen a less organised Leicester side defensively, 

 

We have a tough run coming up soon, and that'll almost certainly result in a poor run of form unless performances change dramatically.

 

So far there has been no real sign that things are improving. Maybe we were spoilt by Enzo last season, but the improvement and development of the system that was being implemented in the early stages was clear to see game after game. 

 

 

 

This is completely my view as well. I just cannot believe how many chances we give away, at the very least I thought he’d make us harder to beat. Any decent side will just dismantle us and they have done. Very worrying … we’ve been so lucky not to concede even more. Very disappointed as I wanted him to do well but there’s just so many problems. 

[Gamble92]

Has anyone actually seen a replay of this supposed offside goal by the way?

 

The coverage on my shit stream was abysmal and just kept talking about how the managers now have replays available to them straight away yet they didn't have one to show themselves?

 

I heard someone saying it was like when Sky chose not to replay the massive VAR error last season with Spurs Liverpool 😂

[Fear Of The Fox]

12 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Has anyone actually seen a replay of this supposed offside goal by the way?

 

The coverage on my shit stream was abysmal and just kept talking about how the managers now have replays available to them straight away yet they didn't have one to show themselves?

 

I heard someone saying it was like when Sky chose not to replay the massive VAR error last season with Spurs Liverpool 😂

It was offside by a yard. Checked it 3 times, the angle wasn't the best but it was clearly an offside. It doesn't change anything anyway but again shows the huge issues and inconsistencies within officiating. 

[LVFox]

35 minutes ago, Craig said:

He's simply out of his depth. 
 

The team is clearly poorly coached by the vast amount of easy chances we give away, and lack of chances we manage to create (despite the talent we have in attack). 

We've grabbed some results, but I think most would agree that what we've seen on the pitch isn't a reflection of the points total we currently have. 
 

The bare minimum for any side looking to survive should be organisation. I'm not sure I've ever seen a less organised Leicester side defensively, 

 

We have a tough run coming up soon, and that'll almost certainly result in a poor run of form unless performances change dramatically.

 

So far there has been no real sign that things are improving. Maybe we were spoilt by Enzo last season, but the improvement and development of the system that was being implemented in the early stages was clear to see game after game. 

 

 

 

Good post, I'm convinced we have way more than enough going forward to stay up (maybe another CF would be nice in January). Defensively we are awful and have been saved my Mads numerous times from embarrassment. 

 

I didn't want him in the summer, but I think Moyes would he perfect to organise us defensively and keep us up.

 

[Fox92]

48 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

This is completely my view as well. I just cannot believe how many chances we give away, at the very least I thought he’d make us harder to beat. Any decent side will just dismantle us and they have done. Very worrying … we’ve been so lucky not to concede even more. Very disappointed as I wanted him to do well but there’s just so many problems. 

Away from home his record was awful with Forest so I expected to get well beaten at most places, but at home I thought we'd be tougher. When he kept Forest up I'm sure they got results against Liverpool and Manchester City at home.

[Groby_Blue]

6 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Away from home his record was awful with Forest so I expected to get well beaten at most places, but at home I thought we'd be tougher. When he kept Forest up I'm sure they got results against Liverpool and Manchester City at home.

And Arsenal IIRC

[winteriscoming]

It’s as though we are setting up in hope more than actual ability that there are 3 worse sides than us in the league. There are some really poor sides in this league and imo there are so many winnable games. Cooper just comes across so negative both in interviews and our approach during matches. Any side that chances things tactically during a game and he hasn’t got a clue. His in game management is shocking. 

[JimJams]

4 hours ago, The Doctor said:

I'd rather we draw 25.  Think that'd keep us up!

[Dan]

6 hours ago, Iwebema said:

Yes I think last season felt less stale because of Enzo, regardless of whether you liked or loathed the football, he very openly called out the board for not being serious, and was clearly trying to push for a higher standard behind the scenes and now we have a guy who can't believe his luck that he's a premier league manager, shouldn't be anywhere near this level, he certainly won't be challenging the board.

I think we all know where this is heading with cooper, I personally believe there is no point in persisting with it, but I do get the dilemma of not being in the bottom 3 and with a stale board in place it's very unlikely they act, but its just delaying the inevitable, whoever does come in to try and save the season whenever that is we need someone that will demand a better standard all round, not just someone who is just happy to have a job.

Completely agree. Whether people liked Maresca's football (I was a bit tired by the end) I think what you had to give him some credit for was that he saw right through the higher-ups and he was willing to take them on for what would've been to the clubs benefit. Rudkin's luck is just ridiculous that Maresca ends up getting an offer to leave just as soon as it looks like he's really getting somewhere.

 

Notice as well how hardly anybody actually speaks of the higher-ups any more. It's all Cooper. Cooper does need to go but it's a perfect decoy for them.

[Mickyblueeyes]

5 hours ago, davieG said:

 

Best Mates.

 

Cooper on Khun Top

‘I can see why this club has had the success it’s had with this ownership, because they make you feel like you want to do well’

‘When you engage with him (Top) and meet him, he’s kind-natured. You feel comfortable around him, there’s definitely no fear, but a lot of respect. He’s got a big aura. You can be yourself’

Oh man, can’t we sack off both these cockheads.

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Away from home his record was awful with Forest so I expected to get well beaten at most places, but at home I thought we'd be tougher. When he kept Forest up I'm sure they got results against Liverpool and Manchester City at home.

They did but forest went utter shithouse when he realised he couldn’t get them to defend. Like genuinely terrible to watch football but it was effective to a point because they got results at home. He won’t be able to do that here. Won’t have crowd or players on side 

[FoxyPalace.com]

Even the happy clappers are pissed off - Cooper out ! 

[Trav Le Bleu]

3 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I don't even expect a manager to come out and openly criticise the ownership, but I always find the tone of the comments they make really weird and a bit much. By all means talk about a working relationship, projects, ambition etc. But if you gave me one guess which club in world football the quote "You feel comfortable around him, there’s definitely no fear, but a lot of respect. He’s got a big aura. You can be yourself" came out of with regards to ownership I don't think I'd need another go. 

 

The local as well as club media don't help of course, they definitely fish for this type of stuff.

Was it Shamrock Rovers?

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said:

Completely agree. Whether people liked Maresca's football (I was a bit tired by the end) I think what you had to give him some credit for was that he saw right through the higher-ups and he was willing to take them on for what would've been to the clubs benefit. Rudkin's luck is just ridiculous that Maresca ends up getting an offer to leave just as soon as it looks like he's really getting somewhere.

 

Notice as well how hardly anybody actually speaks of the higher-ups any more. It's all Cooper. Cooper does need to go but it's a perfect decoy for them.

The more time goes on, the more discontent with Cooper (and let me be clear, he is tactically not good enough, and feels very much the polar opposite of Maresca’s regimented approach) the more the calls for his exit get louder, it just seem the true culprits of our demise are further distanced from their missteps.

 

Cooper goes it will just be another Dean Smith type, and some may like that, but start a Smith Out thread a week later.  

[fox_favourite]

All I can add is....

 

Bin!

[Corky]

Conceded ten in three games which is about right. Can see a few beatings coming up and not just from the traditional bigger sides- would you be surprised if Brentford put at least three past us in a few weeks time?

[fox_favourite]

4 minutes ago, Corky said:

Conceded ten in three games which is about right. Can see a few beatings coming up and not just from the traditional bigger sides- would you be surprised if Brentford put at least three past us in a few weeks time?

Southampton put 2 past us, so no I wouldn't be surprised at all! 

[Wymsey]

Must beat Ipswich, as Manchester United and Chelsea might be very nerve-wracking games.

Edited 31 October 2024 by Wymsey

[Foxmeister]

4 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

This is the bit that annoys me most about him tbh. you can just about deal with idiot fans who think refs are on the take or blaming them for losing, but the constant excuses from this manager are tiring already.

 

The win over Southampton masked pulled the rug over so many people's eyes. It's not even that he shouldn't be here, it's that we shouldn't have been in the position where we're recruiting crap and hiring bang average managers. Whilst the big clubs are at Harrod's and other clubs are at Waitrose, we're shopping at Lidl and B&M.

 

Not many clubs have spurted away the hope and opportunity we've had. First in 2016 when we spunked money on crap, then we got a second chance in 2019 and managed to fritter that away, too.

Luckily no one on FT has a victim mentality.