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Cooper - OUT

By Sly, in Leicester City Forum

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Number 6

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The last 4 have flipped me to out. I thought the first half of Bournemouth and the second half of Southampton were our best halves under Cooper, and so was hopeful we'd start clicking a bit more. 

 

We've done the opposite. The point we did get at Ipswich required a late goal against 10 men. Very worrying signs in the last 4 and we don't seem to be learning lessons. 

 

If we can get a new man in before Brentford then I'd make the switch now.

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Hammo

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Blah blah blah. Same old bland baseless platitudes from the ‘manager under pressure’ manual that simply betray his delusion and incompetence.

 

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Brizzle Fox

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53 minutes ago, walkerleeds said:

 

Nail on head.

 

The fans clapped off the worst relegation in history. The same fans give or take a few hundred are still there, and as we know, just aren't that arsed anymore. 

I genuinely think most of our fans couldn't give a shit. Just a chance to get out the house on a Saturday /Sunday /Monday/ other.

 

It ain't just City this applies to. Football is done. 

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jayfox26

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Just now, AKCJ said:

I had £20 on Cooper to be sacked next a few weeks ago when he was 20/1.

 

He's dropped to 12/1.

Problem is, Rudkin and Top won't admit they were wrong.  Sacking him now would be them admitting it and they just won't. Add in the fact the media pundits "experts" seem to think our fans are unrealistic and impatient and think we don't like Cooper cos he was at Forest. Christ, even a fair few of our fans don't think he should be sacked. Clubs a joke and our passive fan base are an embarrassment! 

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18 minutes ago, Matt said:

Sorry, worked great for us too, when we got relegated....

 

And Burnley last season!

 

Aside from the very obvious point that plenty of others teams have played that way and not been relegated, having a defined and consistent style is not about possession or playing out from the back. Bournemouth under Iraola, Brentford under Frank, Wolves under Nuno or more extremely Burnley under Dyche are good examples of teams who had/are having success while being direct and having relatively low possession. The complaints about Cooper's style aren't that we aren't sexy enough or we don't have enough of the ball, it's that there is no discernible style, no real philosophy or plan that guides him and that the team can work towards perfecting every week other than vague notions of working hard and trying to stay solid - that is not enough at this level.

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ozvaldo

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36 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

I didn’t go today, I just couldn’t be arsed, I don’t think those running the club can be arsed either.

I cba going anymore whilst he’s still in charge. 

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cropstonfox

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1 minute ago, Guest said:

Aside from the very obvious point that plenty of others teams have played that way and not been relegated, having a defined and consistent style is not about possession or playing out from the back. Bournemouth under Iraola, Brentford under Frank, Wolves under Nuno or more extremely Burnley under Dyche are good examples of teams who had/are having success while being direct and having relatively low possession. The complaints about Cooper's style aren't that we aren't sexy enough or we don't have enough of the ball, it's that there is no discernible style, no real philosophy or plan that guides him and that the team can work towards perfecting every week other than vague notions of working hard and trying to stay solid - that is not enough at this level.

It's a reactive style rather than  proactive.

Basically staying in the game then learning and adapting on the job on an individual game basis.

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Matt

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28 minutes ago, Guest said:

Aside from the very obvious point that plenty of others teams have played that way and not been relegated, having a defined and consistent style is not about possession or playing out from the back. Bournemouth under Iraola, Brentford under Frank, Wolves under Nuno or more extremely Burnley under Dyche are good examples of teams who had/are having success while being direct and having relatively low possession. The complaints about Cooper's style aren't that we aren't sexy enough or we don't have enough of the ball, it's that there is no discernible style, no real philosophy or plan that guides him and that the team can work towards perfecting every week other than vague notions of working hard and trying to stay solid - that is not enough at this level.

Course there plenty of other teams play that way and not relegated because more play that way than not and only 3 can be relegated.

 

Fair point about the names you've mentioned, but the fact people on here turn their nose up at Nuno at Wolves and Dyche speaks volumes of exactly how that'd go down here and I got the sense the poster I quoted was alluding to the former style we've discussed therefore making the examples I have.

 

Equally I completely agree with the rest of your post, it's not good enough, but people talk about possession or playing out from the back as some sure fire way of success when it's not, quite the opposite in some cases (We should know more than most) and while some make the claims it's 'pretty', it's bloody ugly to me - as is what we are currently seeing.

 

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Finnegan

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I hate him using the refs as an excuse, used to always think it made Forest look bad when he was constantly at it there. 

 

On balance we've done alright with decisions this year, we're in the position we're in because he's not good enough. 

 

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murphy

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1 hour ago, walkerleeds said:

 

Nail on head.

 

The fans clapped off the worst relegation in history. The same fans give or take a few hundred are still there, and as we know, just aren't that arsed anymore. 

While I agree that it was the worst relegation in history, it is not the fans' job to hire and fire managers.  It is the fans job to back the team on matchday and become the 12th man.  It is entirely a failing of the board that Rodgers was able to stumble on for so long and also their fault that so many players were not as invested as they might have been as their contracts were allowed to run down.

Gubbins

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9 minutes ago, Guest said:

Aside from the very obvious point that plenty of others teams have played that way and not been relegated, having a defined and consistent style is not about possession or playing out from the back. Bournemouth under Iraola, Brentford under Frank, Wolves under Nuno or more extremely Burnley under Dyche are good examples of teams who had/are having success while being direct and having relatively low possession. The complaints about Cooper's style aren't that we aren't sexy enough or we don't have enough of the ball, it's that there is no discernible style, no real philosophy or plan that guides him and that the team can work towards perfecting every week other than vague notions of working hard and trying to stay solid - that is not enough at this level.

Prob the most persuasive post regarding getting rid I've seen and I don't necessarily disagree. What I will say though is that I genuinely don't see any attainable manager who could meld our hapless defenders and soft midfield into a solid unit that could comfortably survive. 

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UniFox21

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5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

I hate him using the refs as an excuse, used to always think it made Forest look bad when he was constantly at it there. 

 

On balance we've done alright with decisions this year, we're in the position we're in because he's not good enough. 

 

Definite emphasis on he's not good enough. There's more than enough quality in that squad to stay up 

fleshdaddy

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Imagine being a player and going from working with Maresca last year, to Cooper this. 

 

He's totally incompetent and we're going down with him, we need to get rid just to give ourselves even a glimmer of a chance. 

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Gubbins

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1 minute ago, UniFox21 said:

Definite emphasis on he's not good enough. There's more than enough quality in that squad to stay up 

Where? None of the defenders are up to it, the cms are bottom half standard at best, wingers are poor more than they are good and our only half competent strikers best days were at least 3 years ago. It's not a squad that will 100% go down but there's no where near enough quality to think we could stay up even  remotely comfortably.

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fox_favourite

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3 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Where? None of the defenders are up to it, the cms are bottom half standard at best, wingers are poor more than they are good and our only half competent strikers best days were at least 3 years ago. It's not a squad that will 100% go down but there's no where near enough quality to think we could stay up even  remotely comfortably.

But none are given the chance by the lack of tactics. They are put together like a Sunday league team to figure it out themselves by the looks of it. He draws a formation on a board and that is it by the looks of it. The players are frustrated and that certainly doesn't help anyone.

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FrankieADZ

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28 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

I think RVN would be an uninspired replacement though. Won't have the affinity with us that he had at United.

tbf would be more inspired compared to the cooper one, certainly for the players youd think

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