Jeremy Monga

[murphy]

11 hours ago, OriginalRobboFOX said:

Genuinely feel a massive proportion of our fans are getting carried away with him. He’s not the saviour. As for those saying he looks calm and composed on the pitch and at home at KP he’s literally had less than a handful of minutes. Don't get carried away. 

I don't think anyone is expecting him to be a saviour but he is clearly a talent and potentially a huge asset.  In order to stop bigger clubs cherry picking our youth, we need to play them.  It's possibly our only chance of retaining him. 

[Merchant_Banker]

I think the biggest concern with playing a 15year old regularly is the physical impact it will have on him later in life. At this age his bones and joints are still developing, if he were training full time and playing once or twice a week it could cause problems. It's not uncommon to see professional footballers barely able to walk at 40. Some may say why care, but I am sure clubs and coaches have some obligation in this respect.

[Torten]

He's only played a handful on minutes but he showed glimpses of having season professionals on toast and at the age of 15, I think it's underestimated how unusual it is. He is literally a child, he was 10 years old when COVID happened jfc.

[Finnegan]

I think people appreciate most of these things about his age and under normal circumstances I don't think anyone would be desperate to see a 15 year old play.

 

But it's a reflection on two things, isn't it? Firstly, how bad the alternatives in BDR and Ayew have to be for everyone to be pinning their hopes on Monga. Secondly, how atrocious the governance of the sport is that we think unless we  grovel to this shis 15 year old and impress him with Premier League minutes now, he's going to immediately be poached by a bigger club for free.

 

It's been a shit few years. People just want something to be excited about really.

[urban fox]

Pretty sure I read somewhere that there are strict limits on the number of competitive minutes that young players are allowed to play in professional leagues in any given week/month. Can anyone confirm this or otherwise?

[Ric Flair]

28 minutes ago, urban fox said:

Pretty sure I read somewhere that there are strict limits on the number of competitive minutes that young players are allowed to play in professional leagues in any given week/month. Can anyone confirm this or otherwise?

I read 100 minutes ago week under the age of 16. 

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I read 100 minutes ago week under the age of 16. 

And Monga will be 16 by the time next season starts.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

I don't think anyone is expecting him to be a saviour but he is clearly a talent and potentially a huge asset.  In order to stop bigger clubs cherry picking our youth, we need to play them.  It's possibly our only chance of retaining him. 

I’ve read several posts that wax lyrical about him, how good he is, how good he’s going to be, how solid he’s been - all I’m saying is just slow down… I accept we can be excited by his prospects but youth football is very very different to men’s football and he’s hand a handful of minutes so let’s not get carried. 

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Merchant_Banker said:

I think the biggest concern with playing a 15year old regularly is the physical impact it will have on him later in life. At this age his bones and joints are still developing, if he were training full time and playing once or twice a week it could cause problems. It's not uncommon to see professional footballers barely able to walk at 40. Some may say why care, but I am sure clubs and coaches have some obligation in this respect.

Inclined to agree with this after just seeing a video of Neville "running" from autograph hunters outside Stamford Bridge. Looked like Gary Taylor-Fletcher after 20 pints.

[tylesta]

1 hour ago, Merchant_Banker said:

I think the biggest concern with playing a 15year old regularly is the physical impact it will have on him later in life. At this age his bones and joints are still developing, if he were training full time and playing once or twice a week it could cause problems. It's not uncommon to see professional footballers barely able to walk at 40. Some may say why care, but I am sure clubs and coaches have some obligation in this respect.

Wayne rooney didn't to bad

[Plastik Man]

20 minutes ago, tylesta said:

Wayne rooney didn't to bad

I'd say he aged badly! 🤣 

[Gamble92]

19 minutes ago, tylesta said:

Wayne rooney didn't to bad

That's probably one of the best examples of a player declining because of how early he started. The problem with Rooney was mainly around his body never really being athletic enough to sustain how great he was. But everything caught up with him earlier than it does for most players.

 

Difference was between him and others was how he adapted his game and went deeper. But to say he was the same player at 31 to how great he was at 18 would just be a lie. 

[Chelmofox]

32 minutes ago, tylesta said:

Wayne rooney didn't to bad

Id say it affected him really badly, and i have long felt that playing at the top level affected his injury record later in his career. Towards the end he looked far older than he was.

 

As time goes on, there is more sports science and psychology involved, so would always hope that more consideration of the youngsters wellbeing is made than ever before.

[UniFox21]

33 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Id say it affected him really badly, and i have long felt that playing at the top level affected his injury record later in his career. Towards the end he looked far older than he was.

 

As time goes on, there is more sports science and psychology involved, so would always hope that more consideration of the youngsters wellbeing is made than ever before.

I'm intrigued how Yamal does, 17/18 year old and is already at 100 odd appearances. 

[ClaphamFox]

41 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Id say it affected him really badly, and i have long felt that playing at the top level affected his injury record later in his career. Towards the end he looked far older than he was.

 

As time goes on, there is more sports science and psychology involved, so would always hope that more consideration of the youngsters wellbeing is made than ever before.

He looked about 30 when he was 17. Michael Owen was playing at the top level at a similar age and still looks young for his age.

Genetics play a major part.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

I'm intrigued how Yamal does, 17/18 year old and is already at 100 odd appearances. 

Tielemans is another who had played over 100 games in his teens.

[st albans fox]

 JM probs won’t be here next season, never mind in ten years time!  His career behind his mid twenties won’t concern Lcfc 

 

for the kid’s career he shouldn’t be playing men’s football next season 

for our promotion chances we likely need him around, doing so 

Edited 8 May 2025 by st albans fox

[UniFox21]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Tielemans is another who had played over 100 games in his teens.

Difference to note would be styles of play, Tielemans isn't exactly a dynamic player relying on his ball playing ability. Yamal is much more of a dynamic dribbler, so it'll be interesting to see if the time impacts his body later down the line

Edited 8 May 2025 by UniFox21

[AKCJ]

5 hours ago, Finnegan said:

I think people appreciate most of these things about his age and under normal circumstances I don't think anyone would be desperate to see a 15 year old play.

 

But it's a reflection on two things, isn't it? Firstly, how bad the alternatives in BDR and Ayew have to be for everyone to be pinning their hopes on Monga. Secondly, how atrocious the governance of the sport is that we think unless we  grovel to this shis 15 year old and impress him with Premier League minutes now, he's going to immediately be poached by a bigger club for free.

 

It's been a shit few years. People just want something to be excited about really.

If Monga was coming through between 2018 and 2021 then the fans would be fuming that he's not already on loan and playing 46 games a season in the EFL.

[Gravel]

3 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Id say it affected him really badly, and i have long felt that playing at the top level affected his injury record later in his career. He fooked far older than he was.

 

As time goes on, there is more sports science and psychology involved, so would always hope that more consideration of the youngsters wellbeing is made than ever before.

Fixed it for you

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

Difference to note would be styles of play, Tielemans isn't exactly a dynamic player relying on his ball playing ability. Yamal is much more of a dynamic dribbler, so it'll be interesting to see if the time impacts his body later down the line

Not so sure there should be too much difference in impact to body, both central midfielders and wingers in modern football would be expected to be box to box.

[stevostadium]

Monga be gone Man City in summer, Rudkin he assuring he gets minutes to increase the tribunal fee.

lot of deluded fools on here

[JimJams]

Calm down, Nostradamus.

[murphy]

43 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

Monga be gone Man City in summer, Rudkin he assuring he gets minutes to increase the tribunal fee.

lot of deluded fools on here

More than likely, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to keep him and promising him a first team role for next year to try to tempt him. 

[Ric Flair]

55 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

Monga be gone Man City in summer, Rudkin he assuring he gets minutes to increase the tribunal fee.

lot of deluded fools on here

We'll soon find out. He will have to notify the club by early June if he is leaving us. Maybe he'll stay next season but still look to not sign a pro deal with us in the summer of 2026.