Ricardo mystery

[Babylon]

36 minutes ago, guest123 said:

Ok, as you’re so determined to take rudkin’s and cooper’s Bobby munk, ricardo’s shit and best ever decision to not play him because of an injury 3 years back. Bravo cuck 

Can you read? Someone said he'd been our best player for the last 5 years, that's clearly not bloody true is it. 

[guest123]

7 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Can you read? Someone said he'd been our best player for the last 5 years, that's clearly not bloody true is it. 

i can read thank you very much, which hasn't been the greatest of pleasures reading some of your posts over the season to be honest. there's plenty of conjecture in the original post. he could have been the best player in the squad despite being injured. if messi was injured now for the season, he'd still be the best ever player in the history of inter miami.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, guest123 said:

i can read thank you very much, which hasn't been the greatest of pleasures reading some of your posts over the season to be honest. there's plenty of conjecture in the original post. he could have been the best player in the squad despite being injured. if messi was injured now for the season, he'd still be the best ever player in the history of inter miami.

You should probably do so a bit more then.

 

He's never got back to the levels he showed when he probably was our best player about 5 years ago. It proved to be a career altering injury, he'd have gone for £40-£60m before now if it wasn't. Other than at a lower level has he's clearly not been anything close to being our "best player". Try and twist it however you want. 

[Guest TaggertvsWise]

15 hours ago, ronnup said:

🤣

 

It's always been the same...

Not like this

[Kierzz]

10 hours ago, Babylon said:

In his previous three premier league seasons, he managed to start what I think was a grand total of 17 games (or around that). 

 

22/23: 453 minutes | *Whoscored Ranking: 23rd

21/22: 994 minutes | *Whoscored Ranking: 5th

20/21: 959 minutes | *Whoscored Ranking: 15th (Justin was 4th)

 

Ricardo hasn't been the same player since 19/20, he was one of the best players in the league then. Sensational. I'm more than happy for people to want to see him play, but building him up like he's been anything close to the player pre injury is frankly just ignoring what's been in front of us. And I fail to see have someone making 5 starts a season on average could even come into the conversation about being our best player. 

 

*I don't rate who scored, but in the absence of any want or time to search out a million metrics, I've just used it here as an example. 

 

But surely after proving his fitness over a full season last year and being possibly our best player (or definitely in the top 3 or 5) you would give him the opportunity to start the season at full back? Those metrics appear to mainly apply to seasons where he has had recurring injuries.

 

Appreciate he was inverted so covered less metres but this also allowed him to grow the technical and tactical side of his game. At times in games this season we have desperately needed players better at progressing the ball out of def nice and holding possession.

 

I heard Stowell on the radio a little while ago at the start of this season. He described Ricardo as "the Rolls Royce in the side" and that he is at his best as an attacking fullback and couldn't understand Cooper's selection policy. That shows how well thought of he even was in the previous background staff.

[DezFox]

Justin has been bang average this year and we haven’t won a game. Just play Ricardo, he was better than Justin last year, still will be. Not sure why there is even a discussion. Seem some old boys complaining about negativity. Wake up,  we we not little old Leicester anymore it ok to want to progress. 

[Collymore]

Absolutely stupid question from whoever in the press conference asked "has Vardy still got his appetite?" Cooper all to eager to answer the question we all know the answer to - might as well have asked "will the sun rise tomorrow?" 

 

Why not ask about Ricardo instead? Has he got his appetite? Yes, he has too I'm sure but at least it will have forced Steve into elaborating on his thought process and thoughts for the future. 

 

[Happy Fox]

Ricardo being ostracised is going to be Cooper’s downfall.

[blue army 1988]

9 hours ago, Collymore said:

Absolutely stupid question from whoever in the press conference asked "has Vardy still got his appetite?" Cooper all to eager to answer the question we all know the answer to - might as well have asked "will the sun rise tomorrow?" 

 

Why not ask about Ricardo instead? Has he got his appetite? Yes, he has too I'm sure but at least it will have forced Steve into elaborating on his thought process and thoughts for the future. 

 

Press conferences are pointless now.

No one asks any decent questions, it's all blowing smoke up the managers arse.

One of the reasons I stopped listening to BBC Radio Leicester too.

[ozleicester]

On 19/09/2024 at 04:30, TaggertvsWise said:

Sadly the negativity on here has made it impossible to enjoy it.  It used to be a lot of fun and reasonable conjecture, now it’s gone down the binary social media route I’m not sure it’s a ‘forum’ anymore. I’ll watch from afar but think I’m too old to really enjoy this space anymore.

Nah.. its always been this way... way back to when we had the match day chatroom.

[moore_94]

If we are in a really strong position at right back and it’s all good whoever plays, why not give him a bloody go then when clearly we are having issues with JJ?
 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-cooper-emphasises-ricardo-pereira-9573285

 

“I speak to Ricky all of the time,” he said. “He’s an excellent pro and a very important player in the dressing room, for the culture. He leads by example.

 

“He’ll want to play games but he knows he’s in a competition like every other player is. Sometimes you’ve got the shirt, you’ve got the nod, and other times you haven’t. I’ve said before, we’re in a really strong position at right-back and whoever we play it’s all good.”

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

If we are in a really strong position at right back and it’s all good whoever plays, why not give him a bloody go then when clearly we are having issues with JJ?
 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-cooper-emphasises-ricardo-pereira-9573285

 

“I speak to Ricky all of the time,” he said. “He’s an excellent pro and a very important player in the dressing room, for the culture. He leads by example.

 

“He’ll want to play games but he knows he’s in a competition like every other player is. Sometimes you’ve got the shirt, you’ve got the nod, and other times you haven’t. I’ve said before, we’re in a really strong position at right-back and whoever we play it’s all good.”

This is actually staggering. I could understand Cooper's decision not to give him a single minute in the PL if he didn't rate him. But to claim he does, whilst Justin has seen 75% of our goals conceded come down his side of the pitch is damning.

 

I've never known a manager make so many baffling decisions from the off as Cooper. I hope it all sorts itself out but it's not looking promising.

[Noahfence]

His comments on Ricky have rattled me massively 

[Clever Fox]

22 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

If we are in a really strong position at right back and it’s all good whoever plays, why not give him a bloody go then when clearly we are having issues with JJ?
 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-cooper-emphasises-ricardo-pereira-9573285

 

“I speak to Ricky all of the time,” he said. “He’s an excellent pro and a very important player in the dressing room, for the culture. He leads by example.

 

“He’ll want to play games but he knows he’s in a competition like every other player is. Sometimes you’ve got the shirt, you’ve got the nod, and other times you haven’t. I’ve said before, we’re in a really strong position at right-back and whoever we play it’s all good.”

It sounds like he trying to justify leaving Ricky out now , Claiming it doesn't matter much who plays RB as they all as good as each other.

 

Well,  we know differently, Ricky is the standout RB at the Club.

[AjcW]

I find situations like this very confusing, but... a good manager would actually come out and say what the reasoning is. To me this comes across as Ricky has questioned his methods and he's fallen out with him because of it.

 

Those articles the other week about dressing room unrest, doesn't take a genius to work out who that might have come from!

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Get Coleen Rooney onto it. 

Edited 23 September 2024 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[Hales]

21 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I find situations like this very confusing, but... a good manager would actually come out and say what the reasoning is. To me this comes across as Ricky has questioned his methods and he's fallen out with him because of it.

 

Those articles the other week about dressing room unrest, doesn't take a genius to work out who that might have come from!

And Jannick.........he has dropped them for a reason....he knows it, we know it! Pathetic and dropping Ricardo is inexcusable! 

 

First way to disrupt the dressing room is to alienate the best player and a nice, popular guy! Free Ricky P!

Edited 23 September 2024 by Hales

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

This is actually staggering. I could understand Cooper's decision not to give him a single minute in the PL if he didn't rate him. But to claim he does, whilst Justin has seen 75% of our goals conceded come down his side of the pitch is damning.

 

I've never known a manager make so many baffling decisions from the off as Cooper. I hope it all sorts itself out but it's not looking promising.

He is just not very good at his job. Competence breeds confidence.  The way he always has an excuse but it’s never the reason we are all seeing.  I thought he was being too scared to make wholesale changes, hence the like for like subs. Now I think he just doesn’t realise what the problem is to fix. 

 

Putting Ayew, a player who has never excelled and peaked years ago at Palace, against a 39 year old Young sums him up as a manager. Any other manager would double up the pressure and try and get him carded which would leave gaps for other players to exploit. 
 

I’ve worked with plenty of excuse makers, they aren’t good at their job but it’s never their fault as they were not smart enough to understand the issue. 

Edited 23 September 2024 by Richmondfox

[Richmondfox]

19 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I find situations like this very confusing, but... a good manager would actually come out and say what the reasoning is. To me this comes across as Ricky has questioned his methods and he's fallen out with him because of it.

 

Those articles the other week about dressing room unrest, doesn't take a genius to work out who that might have come from!

This is what I think. The same with Vestergaard.  The Danes are very blunt without meaning to be as well. The probably just told him the truth and he can’t process it as constructive criticism. 

[ClaphamFox]

8 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

He just isn’t a very good at his job. Competence breeds confidence.  The way he always has an excuse but it’s never the reason we are all seeing.  I thought he was being too scared to make wholesale changes, hence the like for like subs. Now I think he just doesn’t realise what the problem is to fix. 

 

Putting Ayew, a player who has never excelled and peaked years ago at Palace, against a 39 year old Young sums him up as a manager. Any other manager would double up the pressure and try and get him carded which would leave gaps for other players to exploit. 
 

I’ve worked with plenty of excuse makers, they aren’t good at their job but it’s never their fault as they were not smart enough to understand the issue. 

I remember when Ayew joined, a journalist who covers Palace was saying on the radio that Ayew loved it there and was offered a new contract, but he had decided to move because Palace couldn't offer him a 'guaranteed' starting place in the team, which is what he wanted - the implication being, of course, that Cooper must have promised him he'd be a starter for us. I remember being disturbed when I heard this as I regarded Ayew as a useful squad player at best, but so far it seems like that journalist was right and that Cooper does indeed regard Ayew as a guaranteed starter.

Edited 23 September 2024 by ClaphamFox

[CosbehFox]

I’ve said my strong gut is Cooper prioritises defending set pieces above others and therefore there’s two or three being picked in the team because they’ve been better attacking the ball aerially in training or they are taller. 
 

A penalty of having a coach within the staff whose forte is set pieces. 
 

A gut mind. Could mindless nonsense

[MPH]

30 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I find situations like this very confusing, but... a good manager would actually come out and say what the reasoning is. To me this comes across as Ricky has questioned his methods and he's fallen out with him because of it.

 

Those articles the other week about dressing room unrest, doesn't take a genius to work out who that might have come from!

You would think in a game he asks his fullbacks to attack more he’d pick Ricardo..

[Richmondfox]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

I remember when Ayew joined, Owynn Palmer-Atkin on the WYS podcast interviewed a journalist who covers Palace to get the lowdown. This journalist was saying that Ayew loved it at Palace and was offered a new contract, but he had decided to move because Palace couldn't offer him a 'guaranteed' starting place in the team, which is what he wanted - the implication being, of course, that Cooper must have promised him he'd be a starter for us. I remember being disturbed when I heard this as I regarded Ayew as a useful squad player at best, but so far it seems like that journalist was right and that Ayew joined us because he'd been told that he'd be in our starting eleven no matter what.

This is worrying.  Hopefully, if we get a new manager this will shut down.

 

On a free he would be ok, and that’s only as a back up to Vardy.  For cash and now it’s at the expense of Fatawu then surely this will be an issue with the team.

 

He adds nothing to the team other than holding onto the ball for too long and falling over. 

[Babylon]

33 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I find situations like this very confusing, but... a good manager would actually come out and say what the reasoning is. To me this comes across as Ricky has questioned his methods and he's fallen out with him because of it.

 

Those articles the other week about dressing room unrest, doesn't take a genius to work out who that might have come from!

He prefers JJ currently, not sure what reasoning you need. You might not agree with it, but most mangers are going to keep it internal. As soon as you start questioning players publicly, you are on a sticky wicket. 

[Babylon]

13 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I remember when Ayew joined, a journalist who covers Palace was saying on the radio that Ayew loved it there and was offered a new contract, but he had decided to move because Palace couldn't offer him a 'guaranteed' starting place in the team, which is what he wanted - the implication being, of course, that Cooper must have promised him he'd be a starter for us. I remember being disturbed when I heard this as I regarded Ayew as a useful squad player at best, but so far it seems like that journalist was right and that Cooper does indeed regard Ayew as a guaranteed starter.

No player is going to get a guaranteed spot, just doesn't happen. A manager might say he sees them as a key player and they are likely to get a lot of minutes, but that's about the extent of it. The simple most likely answer with JJ and Ayew is that Cooper as it stands is a nervous nelly and wants to err on the side of caution with more defensive players. 

Edited 23 September 2024 by Babylon