Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[ronnup]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

Basics. Low block, back four stay narrow..pack midfield. Pace up top. The most basic of stuff

Can you coach them please?

[Paninistickers]

1 minute ago, Blue-fox said:

But Daka can run around but not have the technical ability that Vardy has, that’s the difference. We maybe should look at playing both but that just leaves Edouard. God help us is all I say 😂

But what's the point of technical ability if he never touches the ball? And is too slow to beat centre halves 15 years his junior in a foot race to even get there? 

[VictorFox]

The players are poor but Dyche would certainly get us more points than what Ruud will get us 

[Greg2607]

On 29/11/2024 at 20:15, Greg2607 said:

Genuinely nervous about this.  His track record at PSV was solid enough, but they are one of the biggest teams in the league, same as the squad at utd.  His win record at Jong PSV in a team that historically finishes low in the table was average at best.... We will see how it plays out.  Id have preferred a safe pair of hands whilst we establish, but let's get behind him and team and see where it takes us! 

Turns out my nervousness was well founded.  I genuinely can't decide if it's the manager or the squad, but we are properly up the creek aren't we. 

[splinterdream]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

Basics. Low block, back four stay narrow..pack midfield. Pace up top. The most basic of stuff

isn't that what Cooper tried to play and why we had so many shots against us?

[ceebeefox]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

Basics. Low block, back four stay narrow..pack midfield. Pace up top. The most basic of stuff

All the coaches are brainwashed with the new fads! Only Florist buck the trend!

[splinterdream]

Just now, ceebeefox said:

All the coaches are brainwashed with the new fads! Only Florist buck the trend!

they have decent defenders and pace  up front

[Ricey]

19 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

For what it's worth, I do have some contacts within football, unfortunately linked to forest....from what they've said, all the press releases before Tottenham about RVN wanting to walk were all true, he's fuming that he's not been backed and is having to do it with this squad. The complication is he was hand picked by Top so Top is heavily invested in this one. It all sounds like it's a bit of shit show behind closed doors and no one really knows what the right thing to do is, spend v consolidate etc.

Just passing on what they have said, recognise its 3rd hand from people in the game at another club.

If RvN was Top’s appointment, what’s the point in Rudkin? (rhetorical question)

 

It just backs up the point that we need wider changes, not just the removal of Rudkin.
 

Top is hiring managers because of their reputation as a player and a couple of matches as caretaker, then telling them that he wants us to play like Man City. What could go wrong.

[RoboFox]

9 hours ago, Skidmark said:

He's got to go and should have weeks ago. He's tactically inept but the decision to hire him in the first place must be one of the worst mistakes ever made in the History of the club. Top's ego and vanity project and his 'desperation' to get a big name in will get this club relegated again. 

 

Think of the state of the club when you think that we didn't even approach David Moyes. The man who we said would have kept us up. (You could even argue that at the time we had a better squad than Everton, I know strange thing to say when we've just lost 4-0 to them) 

 

I could honestly see them hiring someone like Pearson (if he's well enough and fancies it) just to try and win the fans over and give them something to be happy with. Detract from the negative vibes and protests. (Saying that I bet Pearson's contract would be more expensive than a few crates of Singha Beer that fell off the back of a lorry) 

Hasn’t it been all but confirmed that we did approach Moyes and he wasn’t interested?

 

Tom Collomosse very strongly hinted at it and Shearer quipped on TRIF podcast when Moyes was a guest “you were right not to go for the Leicester job”

[Mr.Bingles]

Our players aren’t good enough for the Prem, they’re refusing or can’t buy better players, no manager would be able to keep us up with our current squad, we’ll be in the Chsmpionship next season. 

[Iwebema]

1 minute ago, Ricey said:

If RvN was Top’s appointment, what’s the point in Rudkin? (rhetorical question)

 

It just backs up the point that we need wider changes, not just the removal of Rudkin.
 

Top is hiring managers because of their reputation as a player and a couple of matches as caretaker, then telling them that he wants us to play like Man City. What could go wrong.

Yep, I don't profess to understand the inner workings of it all, but the bits I have heard and then when you just watch it all unfold do tell lead you to believe it's all a bit scattergun and chaotic, no real strategy and logic, every decision is taken in isolation and there aren't any proper football people around the club giving people like rudkin/top/Susan a reality check. Blind leading the blind.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

5 minutes ago, Ricey said:

If RvN was Top’s appointment, what’s the point in Rudkin? (rhetorical question)

 

It just backs up the point that we need wider changes, not just the removal of Rudkin.
 

Top is hiring managers because of their reputation as a player and a couple of matches as caretaker, then telling them that he wants us to play like Man City. What could go wrong.

We’re clearly beyond the point where any sacking of a manager is Rudkin, Top et al using it subconsciously or consciously to deflect blame from them. 

Edited 2 February by Wasyls Pec Deck

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, Mr.Bingles said:

Our players aren’t good enough for the Prem, they’re refusing or can’t buy better players, no manager would be able to keep us up with our current squad, we’ll be in the Chsmpionship next season. 

It really is that simple. Ruud isn't faultless by any means but the squad is so championship it's painful

[RGFox]

Lcfc posting videos on social media of players mucking around in training and playing stupid games, not a smart move in the current climate. 

 

He says the same things and doesn't change things in-game to atleast try something else. Yesterday was pathetic and cannot stand most of the team. 

[Lesta Legend]

9 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

they have decent defenders and pace  up front

They also mix it up with five at the back based on who they play. 

[l444ry]

Expecting a front three of Ayew, Cordova-Reid and a 38 year old Vardy to form any sort of credible Premier League standard press is wishful thinking. Playing Winks and Soumare in central midfield and not going with a dedicated Defensive Midfield player is hurting us every week. Worse still, Faes and Vestergaard must be close to the slowest pair of centre backs we've had for years and neither of them covers the other. So why does RvN keep going with this system and line-up week after week trying to be a Man City Tribute Act? Do something different man!    

[Fox92]

29 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

He has to walk if he genuinely wants to, we wouldn’t blame him. Top / Rudkin are both f**king clueless, we cannot consolidate with this squad / team of players we need investment to give us a chance of staying up

You missed the bit where Van Nisteloory is clueless too.

[teblin]

2 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Expecting a front three of Ayew, Cordova-Reid and a 38 year old Vardy to form any sort of credible Premier League standard press is wishful thinking. Playing Winks and Soumare in central midfield and not going with a dedicated Defensive Midfield player is hurting us every week. Worse still, Faes and Vestergaard must be close to the slowest pair of centre backs we've had for years and neither of them covers the other. So why does RvN keep going with this system and line-up week after week trying to be a Man City Tribute Act? Do something different man!    

Agree with most of that. Other than I don’t think faes is that slow, but is so out of position at times it makes him look so.

[Nolucklcfc]

22 minutes ago, VictorFox said:

The players are poor but Dyche would certainly get us more points than what Ruud will get us 

Hard to disagree with this. I think Ruud has walked into an absolute shit show and don’t really hold anything against him (hasn’t helped himself) but dyche would be a good fit. 

[Iwebema]

26 minutes ago, VictorFox said:

The players are poor but Dyche would certainly get us more points than what Ruud will get us 

Yep, as much as Winks etc think they are above Dyche ball, when your wingers are Ayew and Reid....the squad they've built is kind of designed for it...as gross as that is 

[OriginalRobboFOX]

I’ve never felt so removed from the club as I did yesterday at Goodison. There’s nothing good about us at all. Absolutely nothing. We are soulless and have lost it all… we have none of…

 

Walsh’s cards record, Colin Hills style of defending, Kevin Russel off the bench, Oooh Tommy Wright, Joachims screamer, Coatsworths screamer, Taylor wonderland, Kevin Poole, Martin Georges money, Kamark in that final, Claridges shin, O’Neill out to O’Neill we want you to stay, the Carling stand, Dennis the Fox, WTMG, Hot Dog kid, Pepsi Junior Foxes, Elliots double, F Off Mark McGhee, Peter Reid’s got a fcking monkeys head, Mickey Adam’s whiskey bottle, Dion at centre half, Muzzies overhead, Nalis screamer and THOSE Leeds fans, Steve Guppy’s left foot’s, Maxy Gradel and my wife, Howard’s header, Matt Fryatt derby, Lloyd Dyer my lord, Ostriches, Michael Morrison v Portsmouth, Sven, Sousa, Yuki, Nigel F Pearson, Andy Andy King, 2 balls, our recruitment, Knockearts miss, Chris Wood off the face, Riyads touch, Claudios pizzas, Albrightons European celebration, trophies at Wembley, it’s 11 it’s heaven, Leicester hit back like champions, THAT Kasper save, Enzos Lambo, Vardys foul mouthed kids….

 

Absolutely no personality….

[Skidmark]

26 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Hasn’t it been all but confirmed that we did approach Moyes and he wasn’t interested?

 

Tom Collomosse very strongly hinted at it and Shearer quipped on TRIF podcast when Moyes was a guest “you were right not to go for the Leicester job”

I heard the opposite that the club were dialled in on Potter to begin with and didn't even approach Moyes. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

I get the call for Dyche. I really do. However, even if he came in here and work some miracles and got us defending professionally, what next ? We go down, this club builds with Dyche ?!? We stay up and Dyche builds a team in his image - the moment it fails, do we continue to go for a manager with a similar mindset because the squad wouldn’t be anywhere near able to switch to a progressive manager. 
 

Dyche is a short term appointment and by no means fixes our problems. 

[Iwebema]

3 minutes ago, Skidmark said:

I heard the opposite that the club were dialled in on Potter to begin with and didn't even approach Moyes. 

We didn't go for Moyes because we want to play an attractive brand of football. I think moyes just ruled himself out of managing a team in a relegation battle, but his relationship with Everton was the exception. Basically we didn't want him and he wouldn't of come anyway, but no actual talks happened.

[ithuriel]

42 minutes ago, ronnup said:

Can you coach them please?

Well, it's more of a bus but like this?