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Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

By moore_94, in Leicester City Forum

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LCFCJohn

LCFCJohn

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15 hours ago, Dan said:

I just cannot even be arsed to go into the intricacies of this any more. The worst run club possibly in the country. There is no point bothering until we've forced these vile people out of the club, preferably country.

Sheffield Wednesday and Reading. I struggle to think of any more. I’d definitely put us in third.

LCFCJohn

LCFCJohn

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2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Quite possibly equal with Blackburn Rovers 

Yeah that’s fair.

 

A level down from the other two where they are physically destroying the possible existence of the club but have ripped the heart and the culture away whilst overseeing a bit on field decline.

splinterdream

splinterdream

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14 hours ago, StevieH said:

RVN clearly trying to manoeuvre things so he is sacked before the end of the season as payout will be more. I reckon he will go at the end of the season so as to cost the club less. Hence the phrase he was using about wasting time if decision not made until the end of the season. Bit of a cheap shot if you ask me. Get rid at end of season but start to tap up potential managers before.

I like to look at both sides of possibilities when trying to assess meaning, and i wonder if he means he wants to know where he stands because if he is staying, he'll want to be assessing next season, because he won't do that if he's got g to be sacked. He has a right to know.

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lcfcbluearmy

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7 hours ago, ACF said:

I’m using garden leave fairly loosely. 
 

For all intents and purposes, and Ruud would know this, he would be being removed from duty due to poor performance, and to stop further negative business impact. There is absolutely 0 doubt to this and tribunal couldn’t disagree with this.

 

His income is not dependent on him actually managing the games and taking training. He likely won’t be able to achieve bonuses anyway.

 

We tell him to stay away, whilst we finalise negotiations with him and his management. He gets paid the whole time, and we give him his payout when suitable. We don’t stop him taking other jobs in the media etc.

 

Yes it’s messy, but is it less messy than him staying in the role right now. It’s messy because of our consistent failures and mismanagement.

I definitely wasn't disagreeing on it being a good option if possible I just wasn't as sure as others that it was actually possible

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Philkeavo

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7 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Quite possibly equal with Blackburn Rovers 

I think Sheffield Wednesday, Reading and Blackburn are much worse run clubs than Leicester. The point of difference is none of the above have squandered the success with the same ownership regime at the helm. What stands out so starkly is we have gone from being considered the model to follow to absolutely the model to avoid. 

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Lesta2014

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29 minutes ago, Tuna said:

That article is confusing. There are no quotes from RVN?

Exactly what I thought! Common sense says we give some of the youth coming through ago!

Paninistickers

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37 minutes ago, Philkeavo said:

What stands out so starkly is we have gone from being considered the model to follow to absolutely the model to avoid. 

Hindsight speaking, but we were never the model to follow. Just results made it look like that. 

 

Even this supposed 'sell one big player a season' wasn't strategy. It was circumstances. 

 

Kante, Drinkwater, Maguire (albeit very professional), Mahrez, Chilwell all pushed for moves. If we'd had any choice, we'd have kept them. 

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Philkeavo

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1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

Hindsight speaking, but we were never the model to follow. Just results made it look like that. 

 

Even this supposed 'sell one big player a season' wasn't strategy. It was circumstances. 

 

Kante, Drinkwater, Maguire (albeit very professional), Mahrez, Chilwell all pushed for moves. If we'd had any choice, we'd have kept them. 

I agree. It was pundits and journo’s who often referred to the Leicester model. Hindsight demonstrates we were never that clever or strategic. We had unbelievable momentum in 15/16 and rode on the crest of a wave for a while. 

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Filbert Fireworks

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2 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

Revealed: How Ruud van Nistelrooy is plotting to win promotion back to the Premier League with Leicester | Daily Mail Online

 

I agree it needs to be around homegrown players, but he isnt the man to do that

Please god no Ruud. Just focus on packing your bags and plotting your journey back to the Netherlands. 

 

Needs a ASBO and restraining order after the debacle of this season covering the whole of Leicestershire and ideally the Midlands. 

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The boy Linacre

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IF Top & Rudders have a brain & we know they haven't, he will be gone UNLESS its too costly to get rid.

He really doesn't have a clue, sorry the results since West Ham & Brighton, aside from Spurs have been historical AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY

They have to try and bounce back 1st season in one way, there is to much damage there now, the players need a new voice.

The field isn't great but they should be looking now and for gods sake like last time (Enzo) go for something new and exciting, not some failure from elsewhere e.g. Martin

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urban.spaceman

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15 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

Agree with what you’re saying but those clubs also don’t do bonkers business like us.

 

Imagine offering Jannik a new contract,  when proven for 2/3 of his time here that he’s not up to the standard (in the league we’re aspiring to be at) until he’s 35.

 

Edouard is another example of business those clubs just don’t do as they have an actual business model/transfer strategy, rather than just panic buying.

 

Completely and totally agree.

 

Recruitment over the last 6 years - especially since Rodgers arrived with Congleton - has been mostly appalling. Even the signings that were a success for a while became a millstone around our neck because of the absurd wages. But again, that is what it took to compete at the time, and was a successful strategy under the previous rules.

 

What’s happened in the last 3 years is a combination of two major factors.

 

1. Terrible recruitment in terms of players and their contracts (wages/length), both in successful times pre-COVID and awful times afterwards

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2. Appallingly written rule changes that made our previously successful strategy our biggest weakness; by a demonstrably corrupt league that not only doesn’t hold other clubs to the same standard, that STILL hasn’t punished the Super League clubs for a far, far greater crime, that has repeatedly broken their own rules while failing abjectly to prove we broke any of theirs.

 

Everyone on here is rightly angry about the former. So am I.

 

But it baffles me that people seem so reticent about the latter. For me it’s the biggest cause of where we are now and it’s not even close. 

 

People should be ****ing incandescent about it.

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filbertway

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9 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Completely and totally agree.

 

Recruitment over the last 6 years - especially since Rodgers arrived with Congleton - has been mostly appalling. Even the signings that were a success for a while became a millstone around our neck because of the absurd wages. But again, that is what it took to compete at the time, and was a successful strategy under the previous rules.

 

What’s happened in the last 3 years is a combination of two major factors.

 

1. Terrible recruitment in terms of players and their contracts (wages/length), both in successful times pre-COVID and awful times afterwards

and

2. Appallingly written rule changes that made our previously successful strategy our biggest weakness; by a demonstrably corrupt league that not only doesn’t hold other clubs to the same standard, that STILL hasn’t punished the Super League clubs for a far, far greater crime, that has repeatedly broken their own rules while failing abjectly to prove we broke any of theirs.

 

Everyone on here is rightly angry about the former. So am I.

 

But it baffles me that people seem so reticent about the latter. For me it’s the biggest cause of where we are now and it’s not even close. 

 

Can you be more specific about this? Maybe there's something I'm missing that you're aware of.

 

What was this strategy and how did they negate it with rule changes?

cityfanlee23

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I'm at the point if he went into next season i'd have no choice but to wipe the slate clean and judge him as if it was day 1, for me RVN is an issue but nowhere near the main threat to this club. With the squad we will likely be left with we can still get promoted whether its RVN, Rohl or Dyche, the question becomes can he really stamp his standards and authority with a full summer window and pre season, can he get rid of the dead wood and overpaid grifters. 

I'd snap your hand off now if you gave me the choice of starting the season with Ruud and getting a better DOF in. 
If Ruud goes tomorrow, it won't make a shred of difference if we have Rudkin giving over the hill players 90k a week in the championship again. 

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HankMarvin

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Revealed: How Ruud van Nistelrooy is plotting to win promotion back to the Premier League with Leicester
 

does it start by doing something he has failed to do for over 8 home games? Scoring a poxy goal.

 

its worrying that he thinks there is a chance 

Philkeavo

Philkeavo

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1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

Revealed: How Ruud van Nistelrooy is plotting to win promotion back to the Premier League with Leicester
 

does it start by doing something he has failed to do for over 8 home games? Scoring a poxy goal.

 

its worrying that he thinks there is a chance 

This smacks of contract exit posturing. The club will be  aiming to minimise his payoff, while he's undoubtedly pushing for the most lucrative termination package. A relegation clause would have likely averted this entire saga. Well done Jon / Top / Susan 🤨

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