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Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

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HighPeakFox

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15 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Mate, it isn't personal but really, the Dutchman has treated players, fans, the club like dogshit. He jubilantly celebrates each defeat with opposition players. He's statistically the worst manager ever seen in the PL and has guided us to the worst home record ever recorded in football. 

 

You are clearly a good LCFC man. He doesn't deserve your loyalty your faith or your good wishes. **** him. 

Calling him The Dutchman and other humans cucks is revolting and should be beneath you. 

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If this had been his audition, well what have the board seen from him that impresses?

 

Yes we know the hand he was dealt with poor squad and poor / diabolical / virtually non-existent backing but what has he shown? What is his style? Which players have improved under him?  Can he organise a side defensively? Can he get a side functioning in the final third? Can he get a side to win their midfield battle? Does he make good, logical or inspirational substitutions? How does he react to poor performances regarding continued team selection? We've had a good close look at all of this, what is the verdict, what can anyone see that shows competence or even potential? The way he deals with players perhaps but on the pitch, keeping Liverpool and Arsenal out for a long period of the games, is that the CV highlight? He picks Faes. He picks Soumare. He claims that he does make changes when picking the same line ups, subtle ones within the existing system that we're perhaps too ignorant to appreciate. Did they work?

 

Maybe the 2 easiest games of the season on-paper, Southampton and Ipswich, will reveal something, we'll see something, some identity, some semblance of a style, who knows, a goal (let's not get carried away) but if after those two there's still no encouragement, what then? 

 

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winteriscoming

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Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Stolarczyk play at spurs where we won and had a great game only for Mads to come back in the very next game. 
I’m saying we’d of gone on an unbeaten run but seems very harsh on Stolarczyk to be dropped. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Outfox the Fox said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ruud-van-nistelrooy-leicester-city-35118157

 

The Mirror are quoting Ben Foster, as saying he believes there is a relegation clause in RvN's contract, meaning we don't have to pay out compensation. He goes on to say RvN is very likely to pick up a new job in the Netherlands.

lol sports journalism is surely on it's arse when you've got articles quoting the "Fozcast".

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Dmitry

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This dumpster fire is just beginning to burn, and will go full blast real soon, until someone steps up and puts it out. Hopefully in my lifetime.

 

 

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urban.spaceman

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On 23/04/2025 at 16:51, Paninistickers said:

What strategy? The sell-a-player-a-year one? Because that weren't strategic. 

It was more than just “sell a player a year” - we would sell one big asset every year in order to fund the growth and improvement of the squad.

 

On 23/04/2025 at 16:47, filbertway said:

 

Can you be more specific about this? Maybe there's something I'm missing that you're aware of.

 

What was this strategy and how did they negate it with rule changes?

The rules at the time - short term cost control (STCC) - meant that a club couldn’t spend more than 7% on transfers and wages than the previous season. So despite being the actual reigning Premier League champions in 2016, we couldn’t attract better players that would have instantly improved the squad because we had to spend as if we were still a newly promoted club who’d finished 14th. STCC was between 2013-2019, which is why Newcastle were able to go and spent so wildly from 2019 onwards despite being recently promoted and struggling pretty regularly. So we had to develop the team over several seasons by player trading. 

 

Selling Drinkwater to buy Iborra, Iheanacho and Silva

Selling Mahrez to fund Maddison, Evans, Soyuncu, Ricardo, Benkovic, Ghezzal and Ward

Selling Slabhead to fund Justin, Tielemans, Perez and Praet

Selling Chillwell to fund Castagne and Fofana

 

Every single one of those players, except for the crossed out ones who proved to be utter disasters, added something to the squad that we were missing at the time, and were signed on wages the club felt reflected their value as part of a squad attempting to progress from mid table to challenging at the top of the table. And it succeeded.

 

Rodgers took the squad Puel and Macia had built and within his first season, set an English football record for biggest ever away win in the top flight, reached the FA Cup quarters and the League Cup semis (and might have reached the final if the ref had spotted that handball), spent most of the season in the Top 3 before failing on the final day during COVID. The next season - FA Cup winners, and again most of the season in the Top 3 before failing and qualifying for the Europa League* on the final day of the season. Again. 

 

Then the Super League debacle happened (four years ago last Friday to be exact). The big clubs (plus Tottenham) were attempting to protect their spot at the top of the pyramid by making sure no other club could ever achieve financial stability or ever compete with them again. It would have been a complete closed shop. The Premier League bent over for them instead of actually punishing them (they still haven’t paid that £3.6m fine) and adopted far, far tighter PSR rules that meant a club’s spending had to be within a certain percentage of their income. And worse, after spending a decade ignoring Man City’s blatant crimes and at this point 3 full years investigating them, they decided to actually start implementing those rules far stronger than they had before (7 of Man City’s 130 charges are PSR rule breaks). 4 years later and that case STILL ISN’T OVER.

 

As we’d been spending so much money in trying to reach the Champions League, within the already unfair system that had prohibited us from progressing as Champions, the new rules meant that we would drastically have to reduce spending on players transfers and wages due to the reduced income of playing in the Europa instead of the Champions League**. Players on high wages had to be shifted. By the man who had put them on the same high wages and also had a clear track record of failing to shift players from the squad.

 

That self sustaining model that we’d built - while imperfect and involving a lot of shocking waste - was now our kryptonite, under new rules that literally punished the clubs trying to play by the pervious rules; to satisfy the clubs that didn’t. We couldn’t sign high profile/quality players and we couldn’t replace players who left (Kasper, Fofana) with like-for-like players of the same quality. Shifting players on high wages was even more impossible because nobody else could now afford the wages those players were on. 

 

TL;DR version, courtesy of TwatGPT:

 

We had a smart, self-sustaining model—sell one key player a year to build a stronger squad.
STCC rules stopped us from spending like a top club even after we won the league.
Then PSR rules tightened post-Super League, hitting us just as we dropped out of the CL spots.
Now the Premier League’s punishing us for following the rules that kept us competitive.

 

*Reminder: we finished 5th in the two seasons Manchester City should have been serving their UEFA ban so would have qualified for the Champions League if CAS hadn’t overturned their ban. Literally none of this would have happened to us otherwise.

**Basic participation prize money in the Europa League is roughly 80% lower than the Champions League; income from broadcasting, sponsorships and merchandising would have been much higher in the CL too.

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urban.spaceman

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On 24/04/2025 at 07:46, SafewayFox said:

A great reply to be fair.

 

Whilst I agree with most and understand the sentiment of where mine (all LCFC) fans anger should be aimed at.

 

My only issue is that PSR has been in play for a few years now and we’ve shown zero signs of pivoting to comply to the rules.

 

Without bleating on, re-signing Jannik, signing Reid, Ayew, Winks and Coady all on above PL average wages highlights this. Hence the anger directed at Rudkin/Top.

Completely agree. The anger is totally justified. There HAS to be a change of personnel at the top THIS SUMMER. A fresh perspective, a new pair of eyes with new ideas to develop a new strategy within the confines of what’s happened to us. Top, Rudkin and Susan have been chasing their tails trying to put our the fire at the end of it and have managed to put us in a deeply, deeply troubling position.

 

We are in serious existential trouble because of this. I want accountability as much as everyone else but for me that extents beyond the capability of the club too - there are blatant structural problems within this sport that have harmed us by design, implemented by a league that holds other clubs to far lower standards, has acted irrationally and maliciously towards us and have repeatedly broken their own rules while manage to prove we broke none of theirs - and they’ve literally just changed the rules AGAIN to make sure they can punish us even further. 

 

This is one of those very rare articles in which a British sports journalist actually tells the truth about our situation, written 6 months before we beat the Premier League in court last September. Well worth a read:

 

https://archive.ph/PLO3k

 

That’s why, for me, there’s no point in changing owners despite Top’s culpability. We’ll still have the same problems we have now and we’ll still be operating under the same insane rules. As Samuel says - Leicester City are not in any financial difficulty whatsoever. We’re owned by people with a CLEAR track record of investing their own money into the squad, into the club’s infrastructure, and into the local community. And they have a clear track record of achieving sustainable success. 

 

This is part of the statement the club put out last March, 6 months before they beat the Premier League in an independent panel:

 

LCFC has repeatedly demonstrated its commitment to the P&S rules through its operating model over a considerable period, achieving compliance while pursuing sporting ambitions that are entirely credible given the consistent success that the Club has achieved in that time, both domestically and in European competition. As we continue to represent the Club’s position, we will continue to fight for the right of all clubs to pursue their ambitions, particularly where these have been reasonably and fairly established through sustained sporting achievement.

 

They’re standing up for the club against a hostile league that has forgotten what fair competition is. I’m furious with our failures but that statement (and our win in September) at least gives me that little bit of faith that things can be turned around. Cos this isn’t over, not by a long way. 

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4 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

Cue all the comments...

 

ShOuLd Of StUcK wItH cOoPeR 

But the reason there are so many comments like that is because it’s true. We’d be on circa 30 points now so, although in trouble it wouldn’t be a total embarrassment. We’d have had goals to cheer (scored in almost every game under Cooper) and Vardy would’ve hit the 200 goals mark for the club.


And the main point is nobody better wanted to come here. Nobody can name anyone.

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On 23/04/2025 at 05:48, LCFCJohn said:

Sheffield Wednesday and Reading. I struggle to think of any more. I’d definitely put us in third.

In all seriousness, yes those two are worse. I'd throw Blackburn Rovers and Cardiff City into this as well. I thought their grounds when I visited last season were staggeringly quiet, just totally on the floor clubs. There was a thread on Twitter from a Cardiff an the other day - eerie similarities to us.

 

The caveat for me is how much stronger a position we were in than any of those to begin with. Now we are still stronger than all of them, but we really could become a part of that group.

 

I went to a Stoke game around 2019 time and it was depressingly bad. Ground about 40% full, just a really miserable chore of an experience. Since that day I've been worried that we could become this if we're not careful, and we really are going that way.

 

I'd actually find supporting Reading less frustrating than this. Reading's fans have really mobilised against their issues and they have a team that are fighting and punching above their weight. Would be a genuinely incredible achievement if they got promoted. Although they are in a worse state than us, and weaker than us, I'd find being a fan in that scenario not even close to as frustrating as this.

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Paninistickers

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1 hour ago, Chown said:

And the main point is nobody better wanted to come here. Nobody can name anyone.

The queue for the job would've been miles long. 

 

However, the club seems to appoint managers on a 'never 'erd of 'em' basis and if a, say Liam Rosenior had applied (which in all probability he might've) ....the CV would've been dismissed out of hand. 

 

Cooper was a painfully unimaginative choice. Lives local. Managed similar club to safety. Can work on a budget.... ....'e'll do'

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1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

The queue for the job would've been miles long. 

 

However, the club seems to appoint managers on a 'never 'erd of 'em' basis and if a, say Liam Rosenior had applied (which in all probability he might've) ....the CV would've been dismissed out of hand. 

 

Cooper was a painfully unimaginative choice. Lives local. Managed similar club to safety. Can work on a budget.... ....'e'll do'

Well done. You have named one person with zero premier League experience.

 

I stand corrected. Liam Rosenior would have hit 50 points minimum.

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7 hours ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

A stay of execution before this goes to the charity shop. 
Not today little shirt, not today. 

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Wow - When did you get that printed?

LCFCCHRIS

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2 minutes ago, Chown said:

Wow - When did you get that printed?

To be fair it’s only a DHgate job from just before the appointment, but of a jokey one anyway. 

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6 hours ago, LVFox said:

Seriously...Ben Foster waffling about something he has no knowledge on is now a "credible" source of journalism.

 

**** me

Pretty sure they didn't even play together at United so how the f*** would he know

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8 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

I like rosenior and martin... yet everyone here seems to think they are pants.  Frankly, robbins would be good.

Why do you ‘like’ Martin, who has proven that he’s basically a more stubborn version of Enzo with fewer leadership skills and less ability to organise a defence?

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Just to remind people, he has accumulated 8 points from 21 matches. We have not scored a home goal for 9 consecutive games. It is that bad Cooper could have lost 9 more in a row and still would have had a better record after 21 games. I can't even look at the guy never mind listen to his pre-match waffle. The longer he is around the worse it is going to get.

 

Wolves riding on a crest of a wave thanks to us giving their confidence life support back in December like a Carlsberg advert. Hoping for the final nail today in this pathetic regime. 

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