Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Guest Lako42]

12 minutes ago, Dames said:

Its going to happen because we cant afford to sack him and improve the squad. In an ideal situation he should be going along with the board but when you look at it objectively there are valid excuses for his poor performance. Its a culmination of years of horrendous mismanagement from a senior level.

Like I said, mental gymnastics. 

 

 

He's absolutely appalling on every single level. 

[TommyK]

39 minutes ago, Dames said:

I’m going to stick my neck on the line here and say its actually very hard to level much blame at RvNs feet. Yes he hasn’t made the best tactical decisions at times but this isn’t his team really? He was brought in on the back of 2/3 years of incredibly bad transfer strategy. Theres only so much you can do when the club has hamstrung its finances by offering huge deals to Vestergaard and Coady as well as all of the other muck.

 

If anything he’s now best placed to say where its gone wrong and where to improve, if we have a bad summer then a poor start to the season then get rid but as far as it stands we have bigger issues than the manager. 

Honestly, complete rubbish. Don't give this absolutely shit manager an out. 

 

He has done nothing to suggest he's is even close to being good enough. The results speak for themselves. 

 

What other club anywhere, ever would keep a manager who has had such bad results. 

 

He's continually played the same team and formation with it obviously not working. He's failed to address key gaps in our defence and attack. He's failed to install an style of play in the team. He's continued with the likes of Justin, Kristianson and Soumere. He put Daka ( Daka!) in midfield. He's continued to play Vardy when he was crying out for a rest. 

 

The list of total f-ups goes on. 

 

He may not be responsible for the terrible signings in the summer. But he's definitely responsible for our form since being appointed.

 

[AKCJ]

I think it's easier to get blood out of a stone than it is to get good performances out of this squad of half wits.

 

That said, Ruud definitely doesn't have the personality or man management skills needed to be the one to front the rebuild. He needs to go.

[RoboFox]

People really do have short memories, eh?

[Paninistickers]

I have wondered whether the cucks prepared to give the Dutchman a chance to oversee a rebuild, would've been quite so forgiving had these results / team selections / tactics (and celebrations with opposition) been overseen by the less physically stylish Puel or Cooper? 

 

 

[Dames]

20 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Like I said, mental gymnastics. 

 

 

He's absolutely appalling on every single level. 

We all have to cope somehow. 

[trooky]

50 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Wilder actually blooded the youth though, giving Monga 20 minutes or Evans 6 minutes is pretty different.

 

Wilder also is pretty popular up there considering he started his playing career there and got them promoted twice.

 

A very poor comparison.

And Wilder is a very experienced and decent manager. It's incredibly insulting to even compare him with RVN. 

[Clever Fox]

3 hours ago, accessory said:

Mandaric had moved on to Sheffield Wednesday long before then.

 

It would have been far easier for him to take Pearson back there than to suggest that he moved back to Leicester.

It wasn't Mandaric. It was the guy running the show behind the scenes. I just can't remember his name.

[JimJams]

5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I have wondered whether the cucks prepared to give the Dutchman a chance to oversee a rebuild, would've been quite so forgiving had these results / team selections / tactics (and celebrations with opposition) been overseen by the less physically stylish Puel or Cooper?

This statement implies Ruud has implemented some style.

 

Cuck spotted!

[Nolucklcfc]

Imagine the toxicity if we start slowly and he’s still here. 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Imagine the toxicity if we start slowly and he’s still here. 

And it won’t be here even if we start fast?

[cityfanlee23]

His job is untenable, even from the most basic level of the fanbase being completely toxic at the moment. 
 

Rohl in.

[winteriscoming]

He shouldn’t last this season let alone start next season. 

[JimJams]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

And it won’t be here even if we start fast?

If he has a decent preseason, maybe not.

 

 

Anyone else just shudder?

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, JimJams said:

If he has a decent preseason, maybe not.

 

 

Anyone else just shudder?

Seems ridiculous to consider him being here for even preseason, but stranger thing have happened.

[Lionator]

The only possible reason I would remotely entertain him being here would be a complete restructure of the board, especially the playing side. He would need a strong minded, successful sporting director working with him and Rudkin gone. 
 

We won’t do those things, so he needs to lose his job for everyone’s sanity. 

[lfu]

14 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

It wasn't Mandaric. It was the guy running the show behind the scenes. I just can't remember his name.

Lee Hoos?

[Guest]

It seems pretty obvious that he doesn't particularly want to be our manager and we don't particularly want him to be our manager. If he's still here at the start of next season then I suspect it will be because we would really rather not pay him off and he's happy to wait until we have basically no choice to do so, which doesn't strike me as the ideal foundation upon which to build a promotion challenge. I think one of the reasons Enzo worked out was because it felt like a reset and something of a fresh start - barring a level of investment in the squad I doubt we can afford, that's not going to be the case if Ruud carries on having overseen a historically bad run of performances and results.

 

As usual, more than one thing can be true at once: he was hindered by the quality of the squad and the continued ineptitude of those above him, but he is also demonstrably not good enough and not who we should be relying upon to try and turn the ship around.

[Foxin_Mad]

2 hours ago, Gubbins said:

Leaving aside the fact that Martin as bad as he is, is still better than RvN and that its not guaranteed hel be the replacement, this idea that if we cant change our shit board we should stick with the worst manager in our history is clearly mental.

Clearly he isn’t though as Rudd manage to completely destroy his Martin crafted Saints side, if Martin comes in we are in big trouble. The mental thing is thinking this board can bring in a decent manager. For it to work the club needs a complete change of senior leadership and to define what it wants its identity to be. We’ve gone from Rodger’s to smith, to Enzo, to cooper to Rudd in 2 years, we’ve clearly got a poor culture amongst players, possibly other departments.

 

I am not saying don’t change the issue I have is this will be another scattergun approach of random from the board when actually building something might be the best way. Would I prefer a different manager yes but this club aren’t going to think outside the box on recruitment whilst Rudkin and top are here and none of their Primary options are any better than Rudd in my opinion

[whoareyaaa]

He came in when we was under the cosh due to appointing cooper and players not committed if we can ship out the players that don’t want to be here then it may work.. that’s what’s likely to happen anyway if he wants to be here then I’d give him the pre season and see what happens.

 

bigger problems are recruitment and the DOF 

[Parker Pen]

The last manager we kept after relegation from the Premier League was Micky Adams and I felt that he earned that chance. But he was gone by October after resigning. It was a sad end to his tenure with lots of ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’ chants etc. 

 

We all know the absolute dogshit years that followed.

 

RVN hasn’t earned this and we could be repeating the same mistake if we don’t cull him.

[SemperEadem]

32 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

His job is untenable, even from the most basic level of the fanbase being completely toxic at the moment. 
 

Rohl in.

The club don’t care about that. 

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Lako42 said:

Like I said, mental gymnastics. 

 

 

He's absolutely appalling on every single level. 

You just have to remember that he willingly played Soumare every game.  

[tetly]

Kind of split on n this. This squad is very poor in ability and mentality.
Rudd has had a very difficult job here and found it tough.

Ok it’s not all on him though, the board obviously n were never honest with him regarding transfer funds etc. 

I think he is correct to call out the unprofessionalism with in the squad, and fall out with a few senior players.
This is part of correcting the culture within the club.

The reset required here is huge at player level and board level. He may well have started to go through part of the reset with the squad. I think he can see the bad attitudes and lack of commitment from some.

You really can’t defend his record here but I feel very sorry for him. He didn’t even get any stuff come with him. I think as a club we should have helped a young manager taking a gamble on us. We just seem very unprofessional from top to bottom. 

 

 

[filbertway]

5 minutes ago, tetly said:

I think as a club we should have helped a young manager taking a gamble on us. 

 

We were a Premier League club when we hired him. We took a chance on a young manager, the unproven manager certainly didn't take a chance on us.