West Ham 3-1 Post Match Thread

[Number 6]

39 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Our xG was 2.78

The understat model has McAteer's chance in the 72nd minute as 0.43xG, and Vardy's goal as 0.34xG. it's way off.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

54 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

new manager bounce is a fallacy

 

It's an old hat phrase but I'm not necessarily sure it's a fallacy.

 

https://onefootball.com/en/news/feature-is-the-new-manager-bounce-a-myth-39166823

[Nalis]

Is the xG for a disallowed goal zero?

[Number 6]

30 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Is the xG for a disallowed goal zero?

Yes.

[Wortho]

The possession stats are similar to what we had in 2015-16. 

[Corky]

Might be the best thing all round. A win, plenty to work on defensively, a functioning attack, sub striker scoring a belter and some fortune at the back.

 

I expect this defence to concede lots of shots (although the 31 was misleading, several of those were blocked on the edge of the box) but we got forward much more than before and had the ball in the net four times from good moves. Never looked close to doing that until now.

 

We aren't going to miraculously improve overnight but good that the manager made big decisions and the subs worked too. Something to build on.

[Thequickbrownfox]

A great new start for the team. Far from perfect, but Ruud has instilled some belief into them in no time at all. Also Vardy reaches 100 goals at the King Power!

[Jonezy]

Still not quite sure how we won that. Well, learn to finish West Ham. 

 

I saw fight and a counter attack, that created some goals and chances. Now to sort the defense out, because they were running right through it on so many occassions.

 

Love the Ruud vibes and being past the Derby record. 

[Nolucklcfc]

I don’t think we will get to a point this season where we look “solid” simply because we don’t have good enough defenders but I do think we can do better than we are and hopefully ruud is able to improve us structure wise over the coming weeks. 

[Dmitry]

6 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

If you need to take off Vesty and your only option is Faes then that's what you do. But I hope being on the bench gives Faes some food for thought. 

Faes on the bench is the best place for him...and the fans. 

[HighPeakFox]

4 hours ago, ozleicester said:

excluding goals, stats are irrelevant

That's just not true. 

[dynamark]

Ok one game but there seemed to be more urgency in the play all round and we used our strong points mainly pace up top.

[The Quick Brown Fox]

I've just watched the highlights on YouTube and watched the Offside decision against Buenanotte, the screen showed the defender against his right hand side as the one as he's offside, but looking at the player closer to us (on the screen) looks further back, it's either just a dodgy picture shown on the screen or they messed up. 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

Just now, The Quick Brown Fox said:

I've just watched the highlights on YouTube and watched the Offside decision against Buenanotte, the screen showed the defender against his right hand side as the one as he's offside, but looking at the player closer to us (on the screen) looks further back, it's either just a dodgy picture shown on the screen or they messed up. 

Just to add, it still looked tight to be off, just disagree with the misleading picture shown 

[Daggers]

6 hours ago, ozleicester said:

 

 

new manager bounce is a fallacy

I’m aware to what you’re referring, but I suspect it’s deeper than that and dependent on other factors including the individual player’s motivations and abilities. I fully believe that a new manager can have an impact on squads that want to do well and have some players of excellence. Then there are times where it doesn’t matter what manager is brought in, because of the squad, or that the appointment was a poor one. It’s what was so frustrating with Brenda, the squad could’ve stayed up with an early and decent replacement.

[deep blue]

6 hours ago, DerbyshireFox said:

A lot being made of the 31 shots, but I’d only say 4/5 of them were clear cut. Hermansen was busier first half. Maybe a little fortunate with the disallowed goal and Coady stopped one on the line, but we had as many clear cut chances as them overall, we were just ruthless with them 

It was a clear, intended foul on Hermansen.  It would be interesting to examine their goal, too. A messy one from a cross that might well have shown a foul by a W Ham player in the lead-up.

[Spudulike]

4 hours ago, Jonezy said:

Still not quite sure how we won that. Well, learn to finish West Ham. 

 

I saw fight and a counter attack, that created some goals and chances. Now to sort the defense out, because they were running right through it on so many occassions.

 

Love the Ruud vibes and being past the Derby record. 

Southampton could be putting that record in danger. 

[Number 6]

We've had quite a few significant games against West Ham in recent years, often seems to be noteworthy in some way or another...

 

14/15: started the string of wins to survival

15/16: crazy 2-2 with Vardy sent off

17/18: helicopter crash

22/23: confirmed relegated

24/25: Ruud first game

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

It was a clear, intended foul on Hermansen.  It would be interesting to examine their goal, too. A messy one from a cross that might well have shown a foul by a W Ham player in the lead-up.

It was a corner 😄

[robski]

23 hours ago, fazzyfox said:

It was perfectly intelligible, I caught something about Vardy having the winning bid on a bit of Clarence Cliff pottery for £700

 but was there fair warning before the hammer 

[Jaspa]

1 hour ago, Number 6 said:

We've had quite a few significant games against West Ham in recent years, often seems to be noteworthy in some way or another...

 

14/15: started the string of wins to survival

15/16: crazy 2-2 with Vardy sent off

17/18: helicopter crash

22/23: confirmed relegated

24/25: Ruud first game

First game after Sven left too. Andy King played great but we still lost.

[Wymsey]

23 hours ago, kushiro said:

Patrick Stewart?..

[Muzzy_no7]

10 hours ago, Number 6 said:

The understat model has McAteer's chance in the 72nd minute as 0.43xG, and Vardy's goal as 0.34xG. it's way off.

[Fox42]

3 hours ago, Number 6 said:

We've had quite a few significant games against West Ham in recent years, often seems to be noteworthy in some way or another...

 

14/15: started the string of wins to survival

15/16: crazy 2-2 with Vardy sent off

17/18: helicopter crash

22/23: confirmed relegated

24/25: Ruud first game

21/22:

 

Edited 4 December 2024 by Fox42

[foxile5]

Great win, on reflection. 

 

The team needed that. A game where we were battered but won convincingly. Gonna go a long way over the course of the season stuff like that.