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2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

I think the biggest issue is, some are unable to seperate the King Power that took over under Vichai and the a king Power under Top that are running the club now.

The change in leadership is akin to when we replaced Martin O’Neil with Peter Taylor - yes it’s the same club, with some of the same parts, but they are not producing the same outcomes.

Often the KP must stay, talk about when KP took over we were a mid table Championship club, without a pot to piss in and King Power came in and gave us all this success. But can’t seperate the success we had under Vichai, with the under Top we are right back where we started from, if not further back.

 

exactly this. like, if they'd sold in 2019 after the crash and new owners had overseen this collapse, they'd be reviled. People give Aiyawatt credit because of what his father did, and while there was some patience and goodwill considering the circumstances in which he became in charge, that has to have gone now.

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Posted
47 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

Yes "Be careful what you wish for" is right.

 

I remember the management before KP, and it was crap. Financial problems put us into administration, then the dross of the Mandaric years. I've only been going a quarter century, but there were shite owners before then too.

 

So ditching KP without finding another buyer is like walking away from your wife and still expecting Sunday lunch and a blow job.

 

Sure if there was an eager buyer who genuinely had both the funds and the expertise to get us back to the highs of the last decade then we should look at the deal. I am sure Top would be interested too, as he has enough hassles in his life without us.

 

There should be a reckoning behind the scenes over the financial mismanagement, but new owners are not a magic solution. There's loads of clubs out there with owners hated by their fans.

Enough hassles in his life but still had enough time to spend a month playing polo in the middle of the season??

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Stadt said:

There is no dinner or blow job. Top isn’t sucking you off, nobody campaigning for a sale wants us sold to… nobody.

 

We finished 5th in Top’s first full season as owner, we’re currently 36/92 six seasons later with a points deduction looming.

 

New owners might be bad but there’s no way they’d be as disinterested. Top is never here.

Disinterest filters down and it screams no accountability. Low and behold the players become disinterested, and now many fans are and have been for a while. It simply cannot continue.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Lol - nobody is calling for the club to be sold to… err… no one?! (Answers on a postcard for how that would even happen)

 

We were actually in administration because the rug was somewhat pulled from beneath our feet with the collapse of ITV Digital. Much in the same way if the tv money was ripped away from PL clubs without warning today the smaller ones or the ones that had been relegated would struggle. Yes there were bad contracts handed out but they’d not have been an issue in the PL and less so in the second tier with the ITV Digital money as expected. If we went into administration today it would be much more unforgivable than it was back then.

 

The financial management of the club is not sound today. The converting debt to equity point is often seen as an example of good management but it’s not really how it’s presented to be, is it? All you’re doing is clearing the stuff that would hold your business back and compromise its value. King Power/Top will get that back (and more on top) the day they do sell.

 

Then there’s the payday loans we take out, the recent signs of cashflow issues and the inability to abide by financial rules and regulations. Doesn’t scream good management does it?!

 

So “be careful what we wish for”? 
 

Well, let’s say there was a Brentford or Brighton fan calling for more investment or different owners, if I wanted to tell them that and reel off a few things that could be really bad, I’d actually use many of the things that are happening at our club right now. I don’t know how low your standards have to be to be thinking we’re in some picture of health and under good ownership.

So who is out there wanting to buy us?

 

Tumbleweed....

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Posted
17 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

So who is out there wanting to buy us?

 

Tumbleweed....

Just ask my wife is anyone going to buy our house. That we've not put up for sale . Guess what her answer was ?

 

Tumbleweed....

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Posted
2 hours ago, foxinsox said:

Yes "Be careful what you wish for" is right.

 

I remember the management before KP, and it was crap. Financial problems put us into administration, then the dross of the Mandaric years. I've only been going a quarter century, but there were shite owners before then too.

 

So ditching KP without finding another buyer is like walking away from your wife and still expecting Sunday lunch and a blow job.

 

Sure if there was an eager buyer who genuinely had both the funds and the expertise to get us back to the highs of the last decade then we should look at the deal. I am sure Top would be interested too, as he has enough hassles in his life without us.

 

There should be a reckoning behind the scenes over the financial mismanagement, but new owners are not a magic solution. There's loads of clubs out there with owners hated by their fans.

‘Be careful what you wish for’ is daft in any context. 

Posted
17 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Leicester City have won the most major trophies in England outside of the Big 6 in the 21st century.

Leicester City have one of the best training grounds and academy facilities in Europe.

The population of Leicestershire is 800,000 and it is a one club county.

Leicester City have the largest online following on all platforms outside of the Big 6.

The likes of Mahrez, Kante and Vardy are global superstars renown on the most isolated parts of the planet.

 

You ask a man in any foreign country to name an English club outside of the Big 6, his response will be "Leicester City".

 

The club hasn't been sold because Top has not put it up for sale, not because there hasn't been offers.

The day Top decides to admit his failures and put the club for sale, we will have billionaires lining up from across the world waiting to rebuild this great club.

 

 

Top won’t sell he will just drive us into the gutter. Sheffield Wednesday here we come 

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Posted
2 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Sheffield Wednesday had 10 interested parties recently. 

I’m guessing that buying a club out of administration is a bit easier and cheaper than buying a club in Leicester’s situation.

I would argue SW are a more attractive proposition medium term although I read that Hillsboro is falling down in places.

 

On to Leicester.There are so many questions.Is the training ground paid for or is there still money owed?What’s the situation with the ground and future planning permission regarding future expansion? The debt to shares?Thats just for starters.There is bound to be a significant difference in valuation between buyer and seller.

It was hard enough to break into the upper echelons of the English game before they put a ceiling on it Waiting for a very wealthy person/s who”s willing to basically chuck a ton of money down the drain maybe a tad more difficult than many seem to think.Don’t forget that the Leicester fairy tale has been done already.

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Pita said:

Top won’t sell he will just drive us into the gutter. Sheffield Wednesday here we come 

What is the plan for our club as a business this season?

 

1) To draw a line under the FFP sanctions, and not get back in the same mess.

2) To get the playing staff wage bill under control by selling the expensive ones and winding down contracts. 

3) To not get relegated by the points deduction, and to sneak into the promotion slots if possible.

4) To have a manager willing to work with what he has got and the youth team, and all on a shoestring. If it isn't Marti then it will be someone else like him, or worse like RVN

 

This sort of restructuring is going to be the same with or without KP in charge, and it is unlikely to produce scintillating football on the pitch. 

 

What interests me as a season ticket holder and active supporter is seeing some sort of long term strategy beyond fixing the finances. We won't really know if there is until the end of the season and the summer window, but I expect it to be a slow rebuild in the Championship over several seasons. There is no magic wand.

Posted
19 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

What is the plan for our club as a business this season?

 

1) To draw a line under the FFP sanctions, and not get back in the same mess.

2) To get the playing staff wage bill under control by selling the expensive ones and winding down contracts. 

3) To not get relegated by the points deduction, and to sneak into the promotion slots if possible.

4) To have a manager willing to work with what he has got and the youth team, and all on a shoestring. If it isn't Marti then it will be someone else like him, or worse like RVN

 

This sort of restructuring is going to be the same with or without KP in charge, and it is unlikely to produce scintillating football on the pitch. 

 

What interests me as a season ticket holder and active supporter is seeing some sort of long term strategy beyond fixing the finances. We won't really know if there is until the end of the season and the summer window, but I expect it to be a slow rebuild in the Championship over several seasons. There is no magic wand.

You are right in all of this

 

But I’m not sure we even have a plan. 
 

And if we did, what makes you think KP are capable of turning the club’s predicament around? A predicament they’ve created for themselves by standing by and doing absolutely nothing for 5 years?

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Posted
12 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

What is the plan for our club as a business this season?

 

1) To draw a line under the FFP sanctions, and not get back in the same mess.

2) To get the playing staff wage bill under control by selling the expensive ones and winding down contracts. 

3) To not get relegated by the points deduction, and to sneak into the promotion slots if possible.

4) To have a manager willing to work with what he has got and the youth team, and all on a shoestring. If it isn't Marti then it will be someone else like him, or worse like RVN

 

This sort of restructuring is going to be the same with or without KP in charge, and it is unlikely to produce scintillating football on the pitch. 

 

What interests me as a season ticket holder and active supporter is seeing some sort of long term strategy beyond fixing the finances. We won't really know if there is until the end of the season and the summer window, but I expect it to be a slow rebuild in the Championship over several seasons. There is no magic wand.

All this is all well and good. But the bad decisions are escalating and showing no signs of improving. Most of the poor decisions in terms of the squad we are left with, are now actually from within the past couple of years. People talk like it is a hang over from Rodgers but it’s only Daka and Soumare left of his. 
 

It depends what you are happy with. Best case going forward with this ownership is stagnate in this league, possibly some trips to League 1. Maybe Charlton a good comparison. We won’t ever get back to the PL with Aiyawatt in charge. 
 

That doesn’t particularly bother me if we were well ran and had a club we could still take pride in but I don’t see that under him either. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

All this is all well and good. But the bad decisions are escalating and showing no signs of improving. Most of the poor decisions in terms of the squad we are left with, are now actually from within the past couple of years. People talk like it is a hang over from Rodgers but it’s only Daka and Soumare left of his. 
 

It depends what you are happy with. Best case going forward with this ownership is stagnate in this league, possibly some trips to League 1. Maybe Charlton a good comparison. We won’t ever get back to the PL with Aiyawatt in charge. 
 

That doesn’t particularly bother me if we were well ran and had a club we could still take pride in but I don’t see that under him either. 

Vestergaard and Wout are still here too.

 

But agree, it not a hang over from Rodger’s as such, it’s just that summer is the really obvious point it went wrong. Bad decisions, BR was given too much power.

 

Then after that it feel like we have made one good decision with Enzo, which nearly didn’t happen as it was going to be Parker. 
 

There could be a redemption for top and KP, if they can make us self sustaining and a team we enjoy watching. But it gets more and more difficult for them everyday. The is no sign of them starting to make good decisions.

Posted
2 minutes ago, teblin said:

Vestergaard and Wout are still here too.

 

But agree, it not a hang over from Rodger’s as such, it’s just that summer is the really obvious point it went wrong. Bad decisions, BR was given too much power.

 

Then after that it feel like we have made one good decision with Enzo, which nearly didn’t happen as it was going to be Parker. 
 

There could be a redemption for top and KP, if they can make us self sustaining and a team we enjoy watching. But it gets more and more difficult for them everyday. The is no sign of them starting to make good decisions.

Yeah of course Faes. I don’t include Vestergaard as his contract ran out and we actively kept on a new 3 year contract so that became a 2024 problem, not from 2021. That’s on Maresca. 
 

For me there is no way back now. He has shown his distain for the club and fans and that is not recoverable in the way a new manager or signing could be. Also, it is so unhealthy that he has been made more important than the club (around since 1884) by many of our supporters and that is dangerous. We need a clean slate.

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Posted

The Leicester city made for tv drama series continues. The plot thickens and will we ever know what’s around the corner lol.

 

if top is gonna be true to his word he has to start being transparent asap. Fans wanna see a plan of action and answers to address all the questions and in going issues IF he wants us inboard that is. NO more secrecies and unpleasant surprises.if he’s skint and doesn’t wanna sell up than go get investors to partner up. Make it happen let’s get this club going in the right direction again ffs.

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Posted

The South East Asian games finished on the 20th December.
 

I know the Queen Mother passed away and they’re in a year long mourning period but you can’t run a business in the UK if everything stops for events like this.

 

He needs to out competent people in place to operate a business here in the UK. I know we’ve had some change behind the scenes already and I’m hoping we get a competent CEO soon if he isn’t going to sell. 

Posted
48 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

The Leicester city made for tv drama series continues. The plot thickens and will we ever know what’s around the corner lol.

 

if top is gonna be true to his word he has to start being transparent asap. Fans wanna see a plan of action and answers to address all the questions and in going issues IF he wants us inboard that is. NO more secrecies and unpleasant surprises.if he’s skint and doesn’t wanna sell up than go get investors to partner up. Make it happen let’s get this club going in the right direction again ffs.

He’s not capable of landing any investment. As @Paninistickers he’s never sat with anybody other than Rudkin in the director’s box. He could invite any number of wealthy SEA business men to watch games and network but he doesn’t.

 

He’s absurdly incompetent 

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He’s not capable of landing any investment.

This is so true when you realise how rubbish our sponsors have been, FBS trading and then BC Game lol

 

By extension, it shows whoever is working in our commercial department also needs to get sacked.

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Posted
2 hours ago, foxinsox said:

What is the plan for our club as a business this season?

 

1) To draw a line under the FFP sanctions, and not get back in the same mess.

2) To get the playing staff wage bill under control by selling the expensive ones and winding down contracts. 

3) To not get relegated by the points deduction, and to sneak into the promotion slots if possible.

4) To have a manager willing to work with what he has got and the youth team, and all on a shoestring. If it isn't Marti then it will be someone else like him, or worse like RVN

 

This sort of restructuring is going to be the same with or without KP in charge, and it is unlikely to produce scintillating football on the pitch. 

 

What interests me as a season ticket holder and active supporter is seeing some sort of long term strategy beyond fixing the finances. We won't really know if there is until the end of the season and the summer window, but I expect it to be a slow rebuild in the Championship over several seasons. There is no magic wand.

There no sign of improvement on the pitch. January transfer window time to get rid of dead wood. The club not looking very good with wages lately over Christmas. In general no improvement 

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