How significant was the loss of Kasper Schmeichel?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Rodgers' final twist of the knife basically. 

[davieG]

7 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

Aye think a lot of people thought that but they’re together at Celtic so can’t be the case.

Maybe but the difference is Kasper is new there and somewhat beholden to Rodgers for signing him. At LCFC Kasper was fully integrated into the 'Family' and had been very close to the 'Boss' and been a major influence on them.

[richardsfoxes]

We would of never got relegated, fact. 

[Bryn]

We went down by an incredibly fine margin.

We'd have stayed up had he stayed.

 

He was never the best goalkeeper (though was a decent one). But as a character and leader, enormous.

Edited 23 January by Bryn

[blueharmie]

He bailed and knew what was coming 

[Qwerty]

1 hour ago, Soar Fox said:

If Rodgers was the one that forced him out I very much doubt KS would sign for him a couple of years later. 

I always assumed - not sure if correctly - that the club was in financial trouble when Kaspar’s contract was up for renewal, and Rogers was consulted on whether or not they could manage without him.  I assume Rogers said yes we could, so they let him go, to save money.  I don’t think Rogers and Kaspar fell out, but I do think Rogers probably didn’t push hard enough to keep him, and underestimated how important he was.  Huge mistake of course.  We’d have stayed up with Kaspar.  Apart from anything else, he wouldn’t have allowed Rogers to drop Cags and watch Amartey give away goals every week! 

[Qwerty]

2 minutes ago, blueharmie said:

He bailed and knew what was coming 

He has publicly said he wanted to stay but wasn’t offered a contract 

[dmayne7]

Forget the fact he was still one of the best keepers in the world (though there are tonnes of keepers that are good enough for the big clubs that will never get a chance), it was so obvious it would create a big power vacuum in terms of the dressing room and general influence. Could have found a good enough keeper to replace him (as we have now but even Iversen would have done) but he really was as irreplaceable in terms of the dressing room, as a player can be.

 

Galling to see that he's basically going to be the difference between Celtic getting out of the CL group. Nothing against Celtic just don't want any excuse for Rodgers to maintain/improve his rep.

[RoboFox]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

I suspect that Rodgers ego clashed with Kasper's who we know was all very opinionated and Rodgers couldn't cope with it so one had to go Rudkin chose Kasper.

There was talk at the time of narcissistic sociopath Rodgers disliking Kasper's influence both in the dressing room and at the club in general, which led to his exit. Which is why I was so surprised to see Kasper back with him at Celtic. 

 

Edited 23 January by RoboFox

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Kasper was pretty shit towards the end and we needed to move on imo.

 

 

Moving on to Danny Ward was the mistake. 

Pretty shit and still performing better than any of our other goalkeepers after Mads by some distance. 

 

He wasn't as good as he was but he keeps us in the league easily and his presence and leadership leaving us was huge. 

[Vazman]

Kasper was great served the club well but was time for him to move on, we replaced a positive proffesional presence with a traffic cone Ward.

[Buzzell]

I’m pretty certain we would of stayed up if he was between the sticks.

[urban.spaceman]

Losing him was utterly devastating.

[filthyfox]

MASSIVE LOSS...

 

But he would have only protected Rudkin's position further.

 

It is ABUNDANTLY clear that no managerial change will stop this ship from sinking

[bovril]

Replacing him with Ward might be the single worst and most consequential on field decision the club has ever made.

[Dan]

We'd have stayed up in 2022/23 for sure. But I don't think it would've solved what are quite evidently deep-rooted problems at the club and I think him leaving was kind of a pointer towards that.

[dannythefox]

Big player for us who would have probably kept us up. Probably had to for financial issues. Great keeper for us while he was here.

[dmayne7]

Must have completely missed all of his last season here if he was as terrible as some people are claiming. Maybe he wasn't as good as he had been, but that's just because the standards he set were so high. Only got to look at how he's been performing for Celtic in the CL to see that he's still quality.

[pkonline]

Massive loss and it was obvious what we would miss when he left. It's also puzzling how he left, it was never clear what prompted it. 

[Soar Fox]

17 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Must have completely missed all of his last season here if he was as terrible as some people are claiming. Maybe he wasn't as good as he had been, but that's just because the standards he set were so high. Only got to look at how he's been performing for Celtic in the CL to see that he's still quality.

Celtic fans can’t believe how good he is. 

[Levi Port]

6 hours ago, Nick said:

For me, we pulled the trigger on Rogers too late - we should have done it much earlier. I do think if we'd have kept him on,  he likely would have kept us up. He certainly would have been better than the shambles we appointed to take over on a temporary basis. But that's just my opinion.

I do agree, should really have gone after that Forest game in the FA Cup. Or at least after Spurs away. I think with his 30million pay off we were very reluctant due to our FFP issue. His sacking made our financial state so much worse. So many poor decisions have lead to where we are it is criminal 

[BillyFOX12]

He’s been excellent for Celtic this season. Aside from the mauling against Dortmund - mostly down to Rodgers’ naive decision to use Russell Martin tactics against a far superior team - he’s been keeping them in games in the Champions League.

 

If you’ve been following him since he left us, you’ll know he’s still a very good goalkeeper.

[Corky]

He wasn't as good as before but we would have stayed up. He had enough big performances left in him.

 

What we lost with him going, along with others, is the personality of the club. The players who maybe weren't the most talented but gave everything for the club and had a real connection with the supporters. In a three year spell we lost Simpson, Okazaki, King, Morgan, Fuchs then Schmeichel. A huge amount of experience but also a rapport and respect.

 

Not enough of the current squad fit the profile and few have the connection. When Vardy goes we'll just be left with a collection of players we struggle to like and it is a long way back.

[FoxTimmy2]

Pulled off some incredible saves last night in the champions league.

 

He's quite good for a chunky 38 yo playing top tier football.

[Jaspa]

From his perspective you'd have to suspect that he knew what was coming. Undoubtedly an enormous loss, supremely driven character, intelligent, experienced, respected in the game and somewhat of a leader. Morgan would've been another huge loss too.

 

We don't seem to have that calibre of leader anymore.