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[Bilo]

State visit for JD Vance.

 

Straight to meet veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan and families of those who didn't make it home.

 

Livestream it. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

 

 

Hmmm? 
 

Probably as close as anyone is going to get to an apology for a crass and very ill-advised comment.

This is the problem with softball interviews though - with no challenge, you can let your guard down.

 

[Bilo]

 

 

 

[Dunge]

15 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

 

Hmmm? 
 

Probably as close as anyone is going to get to an apology for a crass and very ill-advised comment.

This is the problem with softball interviews though - with no challenge, you can let your guard down.

 

I’m surprised that:

 

A) He apparently didn’t mean the UK* and/or France

B) He sought to correct it regardless.

 

*(regardless of the fact Starmer isn’t our head of state but that’s the kind of thing I’d expect to be gotten wrong)

[bovril]

People rightly talk about the impact social media has had on voter preferences but perhaps it's underestimated how much social media discourse has changed how politics itself is done. DJ Guyliner being a good example of this. One of the most powerful people in the world going on like a based trad twitter account. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

12 minutes ago, Dunge said:

I’m surprised that:

 

A) He apparently didn’t mean the UK* and/or France

B) He sought to correct it regardless.

 

*(regardless of the fact Starmer isn’t our head of state but that’s the kind of thing I’d expect to be gotten wrong)

He’s been rightly getting pelters all over social media for this - with the case against too strong to double down, so a row back was required.

[st albans fox]

36 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

 

Hmmm? 
 

Probably as close as anyone is going to get to an apology for a crass and very ill-advised comment.

This is the problem with softball interviews though - with no challenge, you can let your guard down.

 

Perhaps this reveals that the US administration has already accepted that nato troops won’t be allowed there and it would have to be some UN force. 

[Tommy G]

Away from America for a second, some of the transcripts from the Kyle Clifford murder trial are shocking. 

[Jon the Hat]

31 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Perhaps this reveals that the US administration has already accepted that nato troops won’t be allowed there and it would have to be some UN force. 

Not from the UK or France anyway.  I find it hard to believe he is that stupid that he really meant the UK & France.  I hope he isn't anyway.

[Dunge]

1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said:

Not from the UK or France anyway.  I find it hard to believe he is that stupid that he really meant the UK & France.  I hope he isn't anyway.

Unfortunately, I believe it. I don’t know where he’d get the 20k figure from if he didn’t.

 

Even if he didn’t, I recall a lot of countries supporting the USA when it came to shooting down Iranian missiles. Or invading Iraq. Or standing alongside them when they triggered Article 5 after 9/11.

[Clogger_]

38 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Perhaps this reveals that the US administration has already accepted that nato troops won’t be allowed there and it would have to be some UN force. 

Haha, it reveals that Vance is a ****, nothing else. These are not chess grandmasters we're talking about!

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Clogger_ said:

Haha, it reveals that Vance is a ****, nothing else. These are not chess grandmasters we're talking about!

We’ll it certainly asks the question that why would he be discussing a peace keeping force when he’s already started that the minerals deal offers all the security that ukraine needs with US workers there (history shows enough occasions when both US civilians and troops have been killed without any effective response from the US govt) and also that putin should be trusted to keep his word.  if that’s true then what difference who is there to observe the peace ??

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, Dunge said:

Unfortunately, I believe it. I don’t know where he’d get the 20k figure from if he didn’t.

 

Even if he didn’t, I recall a lot of countries supporting the USA when it came to shooting down Iranian missiles. Or invading Iraq. Or standing alongside them when they triggered Article 5 after 9/11.

Didn’t starmer/macron speak about a 20k force of peace keepers ??

[Dunge]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Didn’t starmer/macron speak about a 20k force of peace keepers ??

I understand we’re also the only ones so far to openly claim an interest in doing so.

[leicsmac]

Also, it's telling that Vance considers warfare the primary yardstick by which a nation is measured.

"...you inescapably associate technological advancement of a species' power with advancement of their capacity to intentionally inflict violence on each other. The capacity for violence and the nobility of restraint in its application is just so tightly bound up in your narrative of what it means to be powerful that it ruins your suspension of disbelief to be asked to question it."

Edited 4 March by leicsmac

[CosbehFox]

Yeah you can tell what educational system these lads come from can't you? 

[davieG]

Ad seen in the London Metro

[Lionator]

2 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Away from America for a second, some of the transcripts from the Kyle Clifford murder trial are shocking. 

Has to be one of the most messed up things I’ve read. Sometimes people snap and lash out murdering people but it sounds completely premeditated, planned and just sickening. 

[Tommy G]

6 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Has to be one of the most messed up things I’ve read. Sometimes people snap and lash out murdering people but it sounds completely premeditated, planned and just sickening. 

The fact he waited in the house for an hour for his ex mrs to come inside from the garden, after murdering her mum, gagged her then shot her with a crossbow. Just unreal and harrowing

[Bilo]

Kemi Badenoch really is the Jon Rudkin of political leaders, isn't she?

 

 

 

 

[fox_up_north]

I really wouldn't be saying you know someone everyone hates "quite well". 

[leicsmac]

Just thought that Vance reminds me of a political version of Kendrick in A Few Good Men.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if he stood up and said that the only authority he's answerable to is Donald J Trump and the Lord Our God.

[Dunge]

10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Just thought that Vance reminds me of a political version of Kendrick in A Few Good Men.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if he stood up and said that the only authority he's answerable to is Donald J Trump and the Lord Our God.

What do you mean, “and”?

[Bilo]

Right lads, sorted it.

 

Itinerary for Vice President JD Vance’s State Visit to the United Kingdom

 

Purpose: Strengthening UK-US relations, honouring British Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, and paying tribute to fallen servicemen and their families.

 

Day 1: Arrival & Diplomatic Engagements

 

Morning:

 

08:30 AM: Arrival at Heathrow Airport – Official welcome by the Foreign Secretary and US Ambassador.

 

10:00 AM: Courtesy call with His Majesty The King at Buckingham Palace.

 

11:30 AM: Meeting with the Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street – Discussions on transatlantic security and support for veterans.

 

Afternoon:

 

01:00 PM: Lunch hosted by the Foreign Secretary at Lancaster House – Attended by senior UK and US officials.

 

03:00 PM: Wreath-laying ceremony at the Cenotaph, Whitehall, in memory of British service personnel who lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

04:00 PM: Meeting with senior military officials at the Ministry of Defence – Discussion on veteran welfare programmes and UK-US defence cooperation.

 

Evening:

 

07:00 PM: State Banquet at Buckingham Palace hosted by His Majesty The King – Toasts recognising the sacrifices of UK and US forces.

 

Day 2: Honouring Veterans & Their Families

 

Morning:

 

08:30 AM: Visit to the National Memorial Arboretum, Staffordshire – Laying a wreath at the Armed Forces Memorial, followed by private meetings with bereaved families.

 

10:30 AM: Roundtable discussion with British Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans – Addressing post-service challenges, PTSD support, and transition programmes.

 

Afternoon:

 

12:30 PM: Working lunch with UK veteran charities (Help for Heroes, The Royal British Legion, Combat Stress) – Exploring collaboration on mental health and employment initiatives.

 

02:30 PM: Visit to a UK military rehabilitation centre (such as Stanford Hall, Defence Medical Rehabilitation Centre) – Meeting injured veterans and medical staff.

 

04:30 PM: Private meeting with bereaved families at a veterans’ association in London.

 

Evening:

 

07:00 PM: Reception at the US Embassy with British and American veterans – Speech reaffirming the special relationship and commitment to veterans’ welfare.

 

Day 3: Cultural & Historical Engagements

 

Morning:

 

09:00 AM: Tour of the Imperial War Museum, focusing on Iraq and Afghanistan exhibitions – Discussion on preserving military history.

 

11:00 AM: Meeting with young British cadets and future military leaders at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

 

Afternoon:

 

01:00 PM: Farewell lunch hosted by the Defence Secretary at Horse Guards.

 

03:00 PM: Departure ceremony at Heathrow Airport – Final remarks to the press.

 

 

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Dunge said:

What do you mean, “and”?

Fair to say.

 

I do think though if he's got Trump on one side of a matter and (what he thinks is) his Lord on the other, then he might have to consider for a moment.