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Literally unbelievable if we have really rejected an obligation to buy for 8 million for him. 
 

pure profit on PSR and he isn’t going to make any significant impression on our relegation battle. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Or £0 if Sunderland don't get promoted.

Doesn't matter at least he plays some games for better judgement, last thing we want is the club going into next season thinking McAteer will be good enough to help us back up.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Why would we accept it if there is little chance of getting a replacement?

 

People would soon moan if it was accepted and then we couldn’t turn around a signing in a few hours. 

I like him, but it's clear RVN and cooper don't rate him.

 

If he isn't going to get minutes then cash in the bank is more useful than an unused substitute.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Blue-fox said:

Literally unbelievable if we have really rejected an obligation to buy for 8 million for him. 
 

pure profit on PSR and he isn’t going to make any significant impression on our relegation battle. 

To be honest I wouldn’t even bother with him if all our wingers got injured. I’d rather just change the shape of the team. It’s not even like he’s going to make a significant difference in the Championship. 
 

Just take it whilst the offer is on the table 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Blue-fox said:

Literally unbelievable if we have really rejected an obligation to buy for 8 million for him. 
 

pure profit on PSR and he isn’t going to make any significant impression on our relegation battle. 

I’m guessing we’ve accepted we are going down, impending transfer ban, so we’ll need him. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Sly said:

I’m guessing we’ve accepted we are going down, impending transfer ban, so we’ll need him. 

There won’t be a transfer ban. There is no breach for them to impose a ban for. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

To be honest I wouldn’t even bother with him if all our wingers got injured. I’d rather just change the shape of the team. It’s not even like he’s going to make a significant difference in the Championship. 
 

Just take it whilst the offer is on the table 

6 goals last season ….. he’s not horrific. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, Sly said:

6 goals last season ….. he’s not horrific. 

Playing in a dominant team, plus one was a massive deflection. 
 

He’s a midtable championship player. 

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He's 23 now anf hasn't managed to nail down a team place. We should have done a deal and move on.

 

You cant win all the time in player transfers,  Sometimes you just take the money and move on like Cannon.

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I’d love to know what we think is an acceptable bid then.


£8m for Kasey

£5m for Thomas

 

Even if we didn’t get replacements in and used academy players, that’s £13m back on PSR that we don’t have to panic about in June, or helps us up on the three year average. Literally could be club saving.

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, ACF said:

I’d love to know what we think is an acceptable bid then.


£8m for Kasey

£5m for Thomas

 

Even if we didn’t get replacements in and used academy players, that’s £13m back on PSR that we don’t have to panic about in June, or helps us up on the three year average. Literally could be club saving.

 

They are loans with obligations to buy at those fees, they aren’t guaranteed. We could be sitting here with the players return in June with no money as the obligation criteria haven’t been met.

 

100% we would have accept those if they straight up transfer's.

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

They are loans with obligations to buy at those fees, they aren’t guaranteed. We could be sitting here with the players return in June with no money as the obligation criteria haven’t been met.

 

100% we would have accept those if they straight up transfer's.

 

There’s no criteria on an obligation …….

its an obligation 

if it’s an obligation based on criteria being met then it’s an option that becomes an obligation 

Posted
5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

They are loans with obligations to buy at those fees, they aren’t guaranteed. We could be sitting here with the players return in June with no money as the obligation criteria haven’t been met.

 

100% we would have accept those if they straight up transfer's.

 


Not sure you know what an obligation means fella!

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

There’s no criteria on an obligation …….

its an obligation 

if it’s an obligation based on criteria being met then it’s an option that becomes an obligation 

Yeah I know.

 

It’s a loan which tiggers an obligation to buy if the condition are met like promotion. Similar to when we loaned Fatawu, it became a obligation once we achieved promotion.
 

Treadmills and foxetalk at the same time is tricky, I’m have to breath, walk, type, it’s difficult…..

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, HoustonFox said:

Just a thought… as a lot of people saying we should “snap their hand off”

 

It’s a loan with obligation to buy. Maybe they wanted to pay us in Jul and new financial year so we said no.
 

Loan doesn’t help that much, doubt he’s on mega wages. 

If we did snap their hands off , I'd still give them the gloves ahead of Danny Ward 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sly said:

6 goals last season ….. he’s not horrific. 

He is. He scored 3/4 fairly quickly then bombed giving some people false hope. Apart from being keen he has no redeeming features 🤣

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Posted
2 hours ago, JimJams said:

Do we need a replacement?

In the same vein as needing one for Thomas.

2 players we've been lucky enough to be offered a decent sum for either and we've fxxked it just so we've got bodies. 

If they were 2nd choices, fair enough. They're not though. LT is arguably 5th choice LB.

Kasey has played 16 games this year in some capacity. So that would suggest we do need him; even if it’s just as back up. 
 

It’s not even an obligation either, it’s based on promotion apparently. So we could weaken ourselves and get nothing. 
 

We also are hardly blessed with options at full back. We’re an injury away from either of them needing to play more than we’d probably want them to be. 

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