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Pub chat - which games defined the beginning, and the end, of our glorious era?

By Harpenden Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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fox_up_north

fox_up_north

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39 minutes ago, Mark said:

Rodgers being apoplectic when 3-0 up at half time against West Brom towards the end of the 20/21 season, apart from winning the cup we ended badly and blew top 4 for the second consecutive year, that’s when the downward spiral started for me and no one did anything to stop it

Who was it who said Rodgers was fuming with us 3-0 up. I remember the game but not who said it. Evans?

Guy

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26 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

That's definitely when we started showing our soft as shit underbelly and ability to roll over when the going got tough. Imo that is when my concerns over Rodgers started and the beating by Forest in the cup after winning it was the absolute clear sign. 

Covid breaking our momentum for that season too, as regards the re-start part of 2019-2020. We were good before then but became inconsistent after the emphatic Liverpool 0-4 home defeat on Boxing Day. Before that then we weren't all that either really, it's just that Southampton were dreadful on that record equalling 0-9 night, as was the weather!

SouthStandUpperTier

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The end was probably the 2021 summer window. It was the first summer window in a while where we didn't sell a player for big money. Bought Daka and Soumare for £45m combined. Brought in Bertrand on big wages. Fofana then got snapped in half by that Villareal meathead so we had to panic buy Vestergaard for £15m.

 

From then on we were always struggling with PSR.

BenTheFox

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The signs were there before but Forest away in the FA cup was when I really knew that this club was in decline. The last three games against already relegated Norwich & Watford and a Southampton side who really couldn't be arsed made that season look far more respectable than it really was. We were in the bottom half all season and had we finished 13th or 14th, it would have been a much fairer reflection. I watched the Under the Cosh interview with Marc Albrighton and he was still playing the victim card about that season. "We finished 8th and got absolutely slaughtered". We conceded 20 goals from set pieces in the league, crashed out of the Europa League at the group stage from a group that had Spartak Moscow and Legia Warsaw who were both in the bottom half of their respective leagues at the time, were humiliated in the FA cup by Forest and didn't lay a glove on Roma in the second leg of the conference league final.

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HybridFox

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When did it start - first game of the second stint with NP. That 3-0 win against Palace with two Gallagher beauties. It wasn't plain sailing after that obviously with Deeney gate etc but it was assuring to know he was back at the helm and the right man to steer us back to the Prem.

 

Mid-points I'd argue there were two peaks - each significant in their own right. The title win and everything that would immortalise us in the public eye.

 

The second being the FA Cup win. Equally unprecendented and special after everything we'd been through. I really believed at the time it showed we could evolve as a club beyond becoming "another Blackburn".

 

I'd argue the downhill where it really hit home was immediately after that losing at Stamford Bridge in that crucial Champions League qualification game. Perez missing that sitter to level it. I think deep down we knew after that we'd blown the Champions League for a second season in a row needing a favour out of our hands. And the realisation the chance with this team may have gone with some inevitable departures. After that we've had the general spiral downwards with the few positive results/runs.

 

Painful viewing seeing the likes of Newcastle, Villa, Forest and West Ham with the conference league becoming what could and should have been us

 

 

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Dan

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I think the Villa cup loss did something to me with Rodgers and I kinda knew that we'd built a flaky, albeit talented side. But the way we folded to a team we had so much more ability than told me we'd started cutting corners in our recruitment, particularly with players mentality. Proven by thrashing them twice in far less pressurising league games.

 

Roma I said on the night was the end of an era. I knew it to a degree but my god I didn't think it could get this bad.

 

The loss at home to Southampton in August 2022 was where I started to think we were actually bad enough to get relegated but still believed that simply changing the manager could avert this. Which I stand by.

 

I think what's panned out under Aiyawatt is proof we were always going to get here though. The 2022/23 wasn't the exception - it was the new normal. Absolutely rank incompetence became tolerated and the likes of Maresca knew he needed to get out of such a poisonous environment. If Van Nistelrooy has anything about him he'll already be manufacturing his exit.

 

I'm not looking forward to seeing where it ends up. I think when we get a draw at somewhere like Blackburn or Preston and people aren't particularly unhappy it'll have sunk in.

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PAULCFC

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The first game of the season v Brentford.....2.0 up and cruising at half time......they make subs,we make non and then Rodgers blames the heat!

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CrazyKopCorner

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I would say it was the Watford defeat in the play offs really started the era. We had a proper pre season 2013 / 2014 went a goal down at Middlesbrough, had a defender have to go off through injury but came roaring back to win 2 -1 with goals from Drinkwater and most notably Vardy getting the winner and the way he took it with pace and power was breath-taking - I was right behind it and could see it was going top right hand corner the minute he hit it

 

For me the end started in that 4 - 1 defeat at West Ham in Aug 2021 - The passive way in which we defended - no tacking, no cutting out of crosses, how we meekly gave in that night was the recipe for what has followed - I left the game stunned by how easily we'd capitulated. 

 

It literally looked to me that a light had been switched off 

Bert

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Brentford at home 2-0 up set the tone. 

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CL Fox

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I'd take being mildly disappointed with an 8th place finish than watching this mob.

 

At least rodgers changed systems when things weren't working. Can't believe the stick he still gets when he was working for top and rudkin.

teblin

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The start for me was the day we went down at stoke.

 

The beginning of the end seems to me the villa 1st leg of the league cup semi final, was the 1st time wilf seemed to pick up one of his injuries.

Arkie Bennett

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8 hours ago, Noahfence said:

Looking back now it’s crazy how many capitulations we had under Rodgers. Easy to say now but I wonder where we’d be now if we just shook hands and went our separate ways at the end of 21/22.

 

I always felt like something shifted after that Norwich result during 19/20 just before we got battered by Liverpool. 
 

You could also make a case for the first game back from lockdown where we blew it late on v Watford. Completely set the tone for the rest of those games 

During that match, Norwich sussed out just how vulnerable we were to the deep press. Other teams saw that and did the same. We've been ropey in defence ever since, the Enzo season aside.

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MattFox

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16 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

I think the Villa cup loss did something to me with Rodgers and I kinda knew that we'd built a flaky, albeit talented side. But the way we folded to a team we had so much more ability than told me we'd started cutting corners in our recruitment, particularly with players mentality. Proven by thrashing them twice in far less pressurising league games.

 

Roma I said on the night was the end of an era. I knew it to a degree but my god I didn't think it could get this bad.

 

The loss at home to Southampton in August 2022 was where I started to think we were actually bad enough to get relegated but still believed that simply changing the manager could avert this. Which I stand by.

 

I think what's panned out under Aiyawatt is proof we were always going to get here though. The 2022/23 wasn't the exception - it was the new normal. Absolutely rank incompetence became tolerated and the likes of Maresca knew he needed to get out of such a poisonous environment. If Van Nistelrooy has anything about him he'll already be manufacturing his exit.

 

I'm not looking forward to seeing where it ends up. I think when we get a draw at somewhere like Blackburn or Preston and people aren't particularly unhappy it'll have sunk in.

Villa proved we never had the mentality to be a top side under Rodgers. 

It’s interesting the cup run in 2021 is a complete anomaly really, every other big game under him we bottled

 

Litterally every single one 

 

As bad as it sounds I’m pretty certain we don’t beat United in the run in front of a full stadium or win at a full Wembley either

 

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reynard

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15 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I would say it was the Watford defeat in the play offs really started the era. We had a proper pre season 2013 / 2014 went a goal down at Middlesbrough, had a defender have to go off through injury but came roaring back to win 2 -1 with goals from Drinkwater and most notably Vardy getting the winner and the way he took it with pace and power was breath-taking - I was right behind it and could see it was going top right hand corner the minute he hit it

 

For me the end started in that 4 - 1 defeat at West Ham in Aug 2021 - The passive way in which we defended - no tacking, no cutting out of crosses, how we meekly gave in that night was the recipe for what has followed - I left the game stunned by how easily we'd capitulated. 

 

It literally looked to me that a light had been switched off 

Absolutely the key to the whole thing for me. That defeat completely changed the mentality of the club and installed the determination for that not to happen again resulting in promotion and history.

 

The end started on Boxing Day 2019. We were second playing great stuff and got stuffed by Liverpool. We were never the same after that. Always played within ourselves, the expansive attacking football was basically just binned.

Blue ROI

Blue ROI

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The beginning was the win over Leeds in 2009.

 

Would have got promotion anyway but an iconic moment and the first for many a year.

 

I like the other arguments raised though.

 

The decline? A good shout made here in the recruitment of 2021. Community Shield papered over the cracks.

 

The Brighton and Spurs defeats in September 2022 should have set alarm bells ringing. Of course the dynamic duo of Rudkin and Top knew better eh?

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