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Next Manager

By Quorndon_Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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15 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I think this is a tad harsh. Yes when it went stale it went stale, and there are certainly question marks over his approach to transfers V player profiles. But, it can’t be denied when we were good, we were ****ing good. The best performance I’ve ever seen by a Leicester team, was the dismantling of Aston Villa away a few years ago, it was simply sensational, we rocked up and just toyed with them for 90 minutes. And we did that a lot. Rodgers was bitty towards the end, but how much of that was down to what started to become the makings of a fracture bored room I don’t know……. His ability as a man for man coach is the best we’ve had in my opinion, to compare him to Taylor is really unfair, he delivered us the FA cup….. 

And yet, we went back to Villa Park the following month, with a cup final on the line...and choked.  Something we did far too often in big games under Rodgers.

 

Even the FA Cup win owed a hell of a lot to good fortune in the final (Tielemans worldy, Schmeichel masterclass, VAR calls etc).

 

A really clued-up ownership would have moved Rodgers on that summer.  He'd reached his limit at City and we should have looked for someone to take us to Champions League level.

 

Instead, we let him sign Soumaré, Daka, Bertrand and Vestergaard - none of whom have exactly enhanced our club.

 

And so the decline began..😟

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Pliskin

Pliskin

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4 minutes ago, accessory said:

And yet, we went back to Villa Park the following month, with a cup final on the line...and choked.  Something we did far too often in big games under Rodgers.

 

Even the FA Cup win owed a hell of a lot to good fortune in the final (Tielemans worldy, Schmeichel masterclass, VAR calls etc).

 

A really clued-up ownership would have moved Rodgers on that summer.  He'd reached his limit at City and we should have looked for someone to take us to Champions League level.

 

Instead, we let him sign Soumaré, Daka, Bertrand and Vestergaard - none of whom have exactly enhanced our club.

 

And so the decline began..😟

I don’t disagree, Rodgers clearly lost interest in the project after the FA cup win. His head was elsewhere. I still maintain that he honest believed a “top 6” club would come in for him after that FA cup victory, and it never materialised…. After this there was a notable difference in his demeanour and attitude, it’s when all the bizarre press conferences and interviews started….. so you’re not wrong, what seriously damages his legacy is the post FA cup mardy, he lost all interest, and the board should have recognised this and pulled the trigger, rather than offer him a ludicrous contract that no club in their right mind would have bought him out of. 
 

 

That was the sliding doors moment, we dithered and shot ourselves in the foot. Like I said, when Rodgers was good, we were good, when he lost interest everything fell to pieces. 

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Greg2607

Greg2607

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Rodgers has a track record of joining clubs with strong squads and making them worse.  I'm relatively sure that he has never signed a player that a club has then sold for more money than they were signed.  Tells you everything you need to know. 

AjcW

AjcW

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8 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Rodgers has a track record of joining clubs with strong squads and making them worse.  I'm relatively sure that he has never signed a player that a club has then sold for more money than they were signed.  Tells you everything you need to know. 

Fofana and Coutinho are HUGE exceptions to your statement, that really didn’t take much research lol 

 

Could throw in the legend that is Matt Mills too 😅

 

I can’t stand the little **** but let’s not change history. There’s a lot of players he’s signed that went on to have long successful careers at the clubs too so naturally left for low fees/frees.

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ian__marshall

ian__marshall

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3 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Fofana and Coutinho are HUGE exceptions to your statement, that really didn’t take much research lol 

 

Could throw in the legend that is Matt Mills too 😅

 

I can’t stand the little **** but let’s not change history. There’s a lot of players he’s signed that went on to have long successful careers at the clubs too so naturally left for low fees/frees.

Beat me to it. Literally word for word 😂

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ClaphamFox

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The fact that we have a thread entitled ‘Next manager’ that has been dominated for the past few days by a discussion about past managers tells you everything you need to know about our current situation. 

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J. James

J. James

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I thought that disappointment was a thing of the past with our club - being in a constant state of despair, disappointment would be a step up - but after resigning myself to Martin coming in to do a bit more lid nailing on the Leicester City coffin, the curve ball of Rohl has been pitched so often that now I'm gonna be ascending to the heights of disappointment if he doesn't come!

 

I'll wake up the morning after and think "yay, we got a decent manager" before the realisation of "but we still have an idiot as DoF, and a clueless boy as owner" makes me wish l was still asleep! 

shailen

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We need some stability at the club and with the names being touted I'd rather we stick with RVN but back him to rebuild the squad. He has had nothing to work with here. So give him a chance at the start of next season rather than changing things for a replacement who might be no better 

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ClaphamFox

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7 minutes ago, shailen said:

We need some stability at the club and with the names being touted I'd rather we stick with RVN but back him to rebuild the squad. He has had nothing to work with here. So give him a chance at the start of next season rather than changing things for a replacement who might be no better 

It’s going to do wonders for RVN’s confidence/motivation when spends the next month assuming he’s going to be sacked and has mentally checked out already, then on the day before pre-season training starts he gets a text from Rudkin saying, “in the end we couldn’t find anyone else. See you tomorrow!”

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Iwebema

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I cant see how it can be RVN, surely you cant go from him publicly and repeatedly stating the club arent talking to me, to he was staying all along.

 

Than again this board as insane, so I shouldn't rule it out.

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JimmyC74

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14 minutes ago, shailen said:

We need some stability at the club and with the names being touted I'd rather we stick with RVN but back him to rebuild the squad. He has had nothing to work with here. So give him a chance at the start of next season rather than changing things for a replacement who might be no better 

Looks like we will have limited funds to rebuild due to PSR and I wouldn't trust RVN oversee a rebuild of squad as he hasn't shown an ability to motivate / organise / lift performances and the reality is he would need to work with the majority of this same squad.

 

Also I would be concerned he brings in players and we move him on within ten games and end up with another manager who isn't having the squad. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Greg2607 said:

Rodgers has a track record of joining clubs with strong squads and making them worse.  I'm relatively sure that he has never signed a player that a club has then sold for more money than they were signed.  Tells you everything you need to know. 

Rodgers is very effective of inheriting an underperforming club (see Liverpool and Leicester), getting the best out of their players in the first couple of seasons and then losing effectiveness. 

 

He tends to then leave with the club certainly no better off than when he found them but you can't deny the initial success. 

 

His track record with signings is ultimately what costs him because his methods and how irritating he probably is, lends itself to players only being able to put up with him for a few years before they check out. So the only way to counter that is being able to recruit well and refresh a group that will prosper with his ideas. Whether he signs players or not, he is instrumental in the recruitment department at his clubs, see Lee Congerton's appointments as evidence and so does have to shoulder a lot of that.

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Ian S

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34 minutes ago, shailen said:

We need some stability at the club and with the names being touted I'd rather we stick with RVN but back him to rebuild the squad. He has had nothing to work with here. So give him a chance at the start of next season rather than changing things for a replacement who might be no better 

That’s madness.

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Big Dave

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15 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

Looks like we will have limited funds to rebuild due to PSR and I wouldn't trust RVN oversee a rebuild of squad as he hasn't shown an ability to motivate / organise / lift performances and the reality is he would need to work with the majority of this same squad.

 

Also I would be concerned he brings in players and we move him on within ten games and end up with another manager who isn't having the squad. 

 

 

I was reading that PSR may not be too much of an issue for us this year - apparently we will be in much better shape for next season - it is the previous seasons that have buggered us and for which we are in trouble with.

One of the football finance journalists calculated we could have up to £30M available and be within PSR for this year.

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FLAN

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1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Fofana and Coutinho are HUGE exceptions to your statement, that really didn’t take much research lol 

 

Could throw in the legend that is Matt Mills too 😅

 

I can’t stand the little **** but let’s not change history. There’s a lot of players he’s signed that went on to have long successful careers at the clubs too so naturally left for low fees/frees.

Matt Mills signed under Rodger’s??

JimmyC74

JimmyC74

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2 minutes ago, Big Dave said:

I was reading that PSR may not be too much of an issue for us this year - apparently we will be in much better shape for next season - it is the previous seasons that have buggered us and for which we are in trouble with.

One of the football finance journalists calculated we could have up to £30M available and be within PSR for this year.

Hopefully we have some flexibility. That £30m will have to stretch a fair bit.

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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1 hour ago, shailen said:

We need some stability at the club and with the names being touted I'd rather we stick with RVN but back him to rebuild the squad. He has had nothing to work with here. So give him a chance at the start of next season rather than changing things for a replacement who might be no better 

Why can people not see how bad we are under RVN. He’s been atrocious 

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rico

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25 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Matt Mills signed under Rodger’s??

From Reading when Rodgers was manager

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Tuna

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Just now, ClaphamFox said:

Matt Mills left us seven years before Rodgers joined. 

He's talking about players Rodgers improved, he managed him at Reading.

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FoxinNotts

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34 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

Hopefully we have some flexibility. That £30m will have to stretch a fair bit.

Not really. Pick up the best free transfers that suit us, spend the money in the areas we can’t get a decent free transfer for, I.e striker

JimmyC74

JimmyC74

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1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said:

Not really. Pick up the best free transfers that suit us, spend the money in the areas we can’t get a decent free transfer for, I.e striker

With the current recruitment setup I wouldn’t be that confident 

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