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13 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

I really think it’s a mistake to say Dyche has a “style.” He’s spent his entire career managing teams who strictly speaking can’t compete in wages and transfer fees. What he does is look at the players at his disposal and organises them to maximise results. So he doesn’t complain about having to play Ashley Young at full back - he organises the team so Young isn’t a glaring weakness that opponents can routinely exploit.So,it’s not style first, results second. It’s the other way round.For now that is what we need. 
 

 

Have to agree.

 

O'Neill was never a 3 - 5 - 2 manager, until he came here and saw what he had to play with.  He then built his team around that.  Problem then is you sort of end up stuck in that system as it's harder to evolve the team.  So he gets a system that works and if it keeps working he sticks with it, if not he then looks to evolve

 

The other end of the scale are managers like Russell Martin who have their style of play, which once it doesn't work they have no idea how to evolve it.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

I really think it’s a mistake to say Dyche has a “style.” He’s spent his entire career managing teams who strictly speaking can’t compete in wages and transfer fees. What he does is look at the players at his disposal and organises them to maximise results. So he doesn’t complain about having to play Ashley Young at full back - he organises the team so Young isn’t a glaring weakness that opponents can routinely exploit.So,it’s not style first, results second. It’s the other way round.For now that is what we need. 
 

 

Oh now come off it! They spent about £25mil alone on Beto and there have been plenty of high value incomings at Everton. They are hardly one of the poor kids in the league.  It amazing how being will bend the facts to support an argument. 

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27 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

I really think it’s a mistake to say Dyche has a “style.” He’s spent his entire career managing teams who strictly speaking can’t compete in wages and transfer fees. What he does is look at the players at his disposal and organises them to maximise results. So he doesn’t complain about having to play Ashley Young at full back - he organises the team so Young isn’t a glaring weakness that opponents can routinely exploit.So,it’s not style first, results second. It’s the other way round.For now that is what we need. 
 

 

Hard to disagree with this, like it or not if RvN goes we will need a manager who knows how to operate on a budget and get the most out

of what he has. We won’t have as much slack this time as we did last time we went down. 

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12 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Oh now come off it! They spent about £25mil alone on Beto and there have been plenty of high value incomings at Everton. They are hardly one of the poor kids in the league.  It amazing how being will bend the facts to support an argument. 

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In contrast Ipswich spent over £128m this season nearly what Everton had spent in the last 3 seasons and Southampton £100m

 

In the last 2 seasons Everton have had the second lowest expenditure in the league each season 

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22 hours ago, AjcW said:

Absolute PR horror show from him on the overlap.

 

I think he'd actually started to build up a bit of momentum with his rest is football appearance.

 

But that was wild, it was like he'd come in after a big night out and was still drunk.

 

Bet his agent is fuming.

I thought he came across well albeit a little bit defensive, he does remind be similar to allardyce when I watch his podcast, and I do think they’re slightly bitter with how they are branded despite having successful careers 

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24 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Don’t get the “want to be entertained” argument. Probably my age but the all important thing in football is to win. We used to say that if you want entertainment then watch Coronation Street. Winning has and is the be all and end all as far as some of us are concerned and the current fad for fancy football is what has changed the game for the worse. OK, it’s watched by more than ever these days, but because 6 million flies eat shit that doesn’t mean it tastes good.

I agree with this mostly. But my views changed somewhat in the more recent years. It has become more an entertainment thing too. 

 

I remember seeing WBA under Pulis and my God the football was the worst I ever saw. I honestly couldn't watch that every week. I'm not putting Dyche in the same bracket btw.

 

But ultimately yes I agree it's about results and winning, especially at Championship level. Enzo ball could be decent at times but that became boring second half of the season when we got found out by the opposition. 

 

I'm ambivalent about Dyche but one thing I do think he'd do is at least have a team ethos and wouldn't put up with any of this shite we have from certain individuals right now.

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11 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Clearing deadwood needs to happen whoever we get in. You can hire a manager who is tactically astute and still have a squad clear out, you don't need to hire a dinosaur to do it.

The way some people talk about Dyche, you’d think he’s alone among all potential candidates in his unique ability to reset the culture at the club. It’s as if he’s a footballing equivalent of Batman who comes to the rescue when a club projects a Dyche signal into the night sky. There will be other potential candidates with the strength of personality to change the culture at the club, and some of them will have the added advantage of being attack-minded and tactically intelligent, too.

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49 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

The way some people talk about Dyche, you’d think he’s alone among all potential candidates in his unique ability to reset the culture at the club. It’s as if he’s a footballing equivalent of Batman who comes to the rescue when a club projects a Dyche signal into the night sky. There will be other potential candidates with the strength of personality to change the culture at the club, and some of them will have the added advantage of being attack-minded and tactically intelligent, too.

Exactly, Enzo showed you can be a progressive type of manager whilst still changing the mindset and culture of a club. 

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I know it’s a different league but look at who Enzo got in the summer he was here - Mavididi, Fatuwo, Akgun, Mads, Winks and Coady. 
Last summer with Cooper - Ayew, BDR, and Skipp. 
I dread to think if we get Dyche the dad’s army team we’ll end up with. 

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On 16/05/2025 at 12:39, smudgerfox said:

I really think it’s a mistake to say Dyche has a “style.” He’s spent his entire career managing teams who strictly speaking can’t compete in wages and transfer fees. What he does is look at the players at his disposal and organises them to maximise results. So he doesn’t complain about having to play Ashley Young at full back - he organises the team so Young isn’t a glaring weakness that opponents can routinely exploit.So,it’s not style first, results second. It’s the other way round.For now that is what we need. 
 

 

This is exactly what we DONT need…. This idea that we need a fix up is just lazy. Dyche is exactly the opposite to the type of manager we need. As many have said on here, we need to look for someone to progressively build over a period of time, someone with a long term vision, and the commitment to see it through. 

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He would be a good manager for our club. We have far more chance of staying in the premier league with Dyche as a manager than others. We can’t play possession based football in the premier league. Build from a strong defensive unit and like Palace yesterday hit on the break. Not a fancy name or style of play. But pragmatic and stand a better chance of results with him than others. 

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There’s lots to admire about what Dyche achieved at Burnley but his peak there was 7 or 8 years ago, he’s not the same manager, and football has moved on. Football managers have a shelf life - even Guardiola, as we are perhaps seeing now.
 

Dyche is done at the top level and we should be looking at someone younger with potential. 

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On 16/05/2025 at 07:13, Claudio Fannieri said:

I think there is a fair few lists of potential managers, doing the rounds on here, who are young progressive and have the potential to come in and take us forward. 

Since the turn of the century, Leicester have had 21 permanent managers and are (presumably) looking for number 22.  Brendan Rodgers is the only one to manage 4 years, and that was only because he got an FA Cup win.  Other clubs are the same.  Appointing a manager for the long term  is just a pipe dream.

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On 18/05/2025 at 10:19, JJD_LCFC said:

He would be a good manager for our club. We have far more chance of staying in the premier league with Dyche as a manager than others. We can’t play possession based football in the premier league. Build from a strong defensive unit and like Palace yesterday hit on the break. Not a fancy name or style of play. But pragmatic and stand a better chance of results with him than others. 

News for you, we've been relegated.

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Gimme Dyche over Martin

 

https://talksport.com/football/3169970/premier-league-live-latest-news-transfers-gossip-updates-man-united-arsenal-liverpool/page/1#liveblog-entry-3223826

 

Changes coming

 

Russell Martin is in contention to replace Ruud van Nistelrooy as Leicester City manager, talkSPORT understands.

 

The Foxes have also held talks with Sean Dyche.

 

Ex-Southampton boss Martin has made the final shortlist at Rangers, but the Scottish giants are believed to be leaning towards reappointing Steven Gerrard.

 

Van Nistelrooy is yet to be told his future by Leicester's hierarchy.

 

However, he is almost certain to be sacked following relegation to the Championship this season.

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