How to Fix LCFC

[Mashe122]

1 minute ago, Winstonthedog said:

If Coady Winks and Vestergaard and others do not have clauses in their contracts to reduce salaries after relegation ... then what's the point ... I'm sure there will be bonuses if we qualified for Europe or progressed in cup ... its goes well beyond incompetent 

The clause in Coady's contract was that it went up from 70k to 100k per week upon promotion!! Brain dead

[The Year Of The Fox]

[Pita]

The miss management of the club is shocking and Top hasn’t done anything about it. 

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, Saxondale said:

What will that achieve? Money is not our problem.

No, it isn’t. Not like we’re losing money hand over fist. 

[filbertway]

Very good listen. Found myself nodding along to most of it and found it to be very fair.

 

My only qualm was that it made me feel a little bit sick when Rudkin was given any credit for the title win, when I think everyone is well aware that any groundwork laid there was purely down to the work of Pearson, Walsh and Shakespeare  

If the man was capable of masterminding a Premier league win then we would not be in this position right now.

[OntarioFox]

Easy really 

[hackneyfox]

54 minutes ago, Mashe122 said:

The clause in Coady's contract was that it went up from 70k to 100k per week upon promotion!! Brain dead

You know this how?

[Spudulike]

@Foxes_Trust Have you had a chance to listen to this? Do you know if the club is even aware of the points made in this broadcast? It's the best discussion that I've heard and really does sum up the depth of feeling amongst fans. If it's the wrong end of the stick then we need to be told. Communicate with us, ffs. What is going on?

[Corky]

Start by getting rid of the naffness overwhelming the club. The clappers, the new PA bloke, the tone deaf social media stuff.

 

Even the ground looks and feels second rate. If we are going to have to sit in a soulless bowl at least make sure it is clean, spacious, the seats aren't faded and the toilet facilities adequate.

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Very good listen. Found myself nodding along to most of it and found it to be very fair.

 

My only qualm was that it made me feel a little bit sick when Rudkin was given any credit for the title win, when I think everyone is well aware that any groundwork laid there was purely down to the work of Pearson, Walsh and Shakespeare  

If the man was capable of masterminding a Premier league win then we would not be in this position right now.

Norcroft more or less dispelled that on BSLB.

 

He said Pearson was like a DoF anyway. Having the head of recruitment as your assistant manager created exactly the sort of alignment clubs need, plus Walsh probably took on some DoF duties like contract negotiation/valuation bits anyway. 

 

Rudkin landed in a position where everything was done for him, as Pearson's work and appointments dissipated/left over time it only gradually started to expose Rudkin's incompetence.

[HighPeakFox]

3 hours ago, VLC86 said:

I’m sure we can continue with this ethos.

I'd rather we didn't, Nigel.

[filbertway]

54 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Norcroft more or less dispelled that on BSLB.

 

He said Pearson was like a DoF anyway. Having the head of recruitment as your assistant manager created exactly the sort of alignment clubs need, plus Walsh probably took on some DoF duties like contract negotiation/valuation bits anyway. 

 

Rudkin landed in a position where everything was done for him, as Pearson's work and appointments dissipated/left over time it only gradually started to expose Rudkin's incompetence.

The worst part is that he has been a part of the club the entire time and seen the blueprint for consistent improvement laid out in front of him. 

[StriderHiryu]

3 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Build a time machine and get Nigel from 2008 and put him in charge of everything 

Ha funnily enough that is the conclusion we came to as well. Because assuming King Power won't sell or change that much, it's probably the only realistic thing that could be done that would have a lot of impact.

 

Look at all of the returning players for Vardy's last game, the emotion in the stadium and the nostalgia it created. That culture started with Pearson.

[sm1]

3 hours ago, Mashe122 said:

The clause in Coady's contract was that it went up from 70k to 100k per week upon promotion!! Brain dead

What hope have we when the same people are still here "running" the club.

[Stadt]

31 minutes ago, filbertway said:

The worst part is that he has been a part of the club the entire time and seen the blueprint for consistent improvement laid out in front of him. 

I get the impression that Rudkin probably has a completely average IQ. Not somebody you want in charge of multi-million pound deals and decisions.

[winteriscoming]

Start by replacing Rudkin with Paul Mitchell. 
 

[Dan]

The entire culture issue comes right from the top. The time to be asking Aiyawatt to change the people below him was a couple of years ago. He has proven he has no interest in doing this and therefore, under his ownership, we will stagnate at best and continue our descent at worst.

 

His time was up a while ago for me. Every fear you could've had about him has come true. I'm baffled at how people still back him.

[Dan]

9 hours ago, kingfox said:

Good article on the Sunderland model here Strider https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/how-transfers-work-at-sunderland-regis-le-bris-role-and-summer-plans-explained-4676990

 

It has its positives and negatives, but it sure paid off this season. 
 

Feels a bit similar to when we had the Pearson & Walsh combo…those were the days 😢

Speakman is somebody I was hoping we'd go for. I mean obviously we won't as we will never bin Teflon Jon but no chance now they're a league above us.

 

I do fear more and more clubs are going to do what Ipswich have just done - go up and bank the money. It's prudent and it beats what we've done, but it's going to make for a very drab league. I fully anticipate Sunderland doing similar.

[Lambert09]

The more I think about it, the more I think we need to do an afc Wimbledon. Create a club in the lower levels and start to rebuild. 
 

these heavy interest loans could put the most financially literate clubs out of business and I’m genuinely terrified that sooner or later we aren’t going to be able to pay one off. We gamble on a future mega sale or getting promoted, both may not come along for a long while. 
 

Leicester Fosse climbing the lower leagues. Fan owned and built around sustainability. 

Pints in the terraces and the fan experience is everything. 

[Chrysalis]

I agree on the club communication issues you mentioned particularly from the owners.

 

I agree that there should be better squad planning, we really lacking here,   With a focus on player mentality, cohesion and to fit the managers that the club wants to employ, so no arguments from me here.

The Cooper situation you raised, I think one of the problems the club has is if we have an Owner with no football experience dictate the style of play, I think this is a no no "we need to play like man city".  This direction should be led by the DoF, and part of recruitment strategy as a whole, I also think style of play should never be imposed on a manager.  Of course your video isnt a "what style should the club play", its more about the organisation and planning issues of which I do agree with.

Another obvious problem which is beginning to become more and more apparent, is the lack of planning for unforeseen circumstances, we push PSR to the limit, which means we cant react to injuries, players out of form etc, as is no budget left to bring people in, and it even has prevented us from letting managers go.  I think when we let managers go its often a sudden decision from the owner, its not planned and thought about carefully with a replacement lined like many other clubs do, its more of a he suddenly wakes up one day and decides ok I want him gone, and then we have this unplanned rush for a new manager.  Reactive no Pro active decision making, this is what I think of our transfer policy right now as well.

 

I will try to watch more of the video later, but its good the video has been made, as the club needs major shifts of culture.

[Chrysalis]

12 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

The more I think about it, the more I think we need to do an afc Wimbledon. Create a club in the lower levels and start to rebuild. 
 

these heavy interest loans could put the most financially literate clubs out of business and I’m genuinely terrified that sooner or later we aren’t going to be able to pay one off. We gamble on a future mega sale or getting promoted, both may not come along for a long while. 
 

Leicester Fosse climbing the lower leagues. Fan owned and built around sustainability. 

Pints in the terraces and the fan experience is everything. 

I would love this, would bring my love back for watching football.

[Globalfox]

21 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Not quite true though is it. It's not necessarily some multi billionaire we need, we just need someone who actually knows how to run a football club.  Teams can succeed without having to spends 100s of millions. We did it once and now the likes of Brighton and Brentford have done well with their recruitment but not spent a fortune. We've wasted hideous amounts of money of terrible players and shocking contracts being handed out. You can throw as much money as you like at the club, if the people spending that money are completely incompetent then the club will never succeed, regardless of the dodgy PSR rules. 

Interesting examples so your benchmark of success is just surviving in the EPL which is the case of your two Benchmarks Brighton and Brentford who survive but have won nothing. And that is true of what PSR does it eliminates ambition to keep the cartel protected. Yes we overspent, yes we are paying the price but in 60 years following the club I would happily see it all done again for the joy of our Premier League, FA Cup Charity Shield wins and our European adventures. Show me a Brighton or Brentford fan who have celebrated such moments. OK you want to change the people in charge well find someone who wants to invest 300 million in a business that its competitors say is not allowed to grow. I think they are a bit like rocking horse shit in their availability.

[Dan]

5 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

Interesting examples so your benchmark of success is just surviving in the EPL which is the case of your two Benchmarks Brighton and Brentford who survive but have won nothing. And that is true of what PSR does it eliminates ambition to keep the cartel protected. Yes we overspent, yes we are paying the price but in 60 years following the club I would happily see it all done again for the joy of our Premier League, FA Cup Charity Shield wins and our European adventures. Show me a Brighton or Brentford fan who have celebrated such moments. OK you want to change the people in charge well find someone who wants to invest 300 million in a business that its competitors say is not allowed to grow. I think they are a bit like rocking horse shit in their availability.

The problem is though our success has skewed reality. We didn't get success because we recklessly threw money around, we got it through sensible and often incredible recruitment.

 

It's a convenient narrative for the current hierarchy of LCFC as they can blame these rules (which are a problem by the way) and deflect from their own rank incompetence. The lines are blurred.

[l444ry]

19 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

You know this how?

Derek Acorah and Sam.

[LVFox]

To me, the issues can be summarised down to:

 

1) an owner who picks us up and drops us as and when he wants, seemingly flip flopping between being hands on with manager appointments, and then completely absent when the going gets tough.

2) this then leads to an inadequate director of football with way too much on his portfolio, having to try and effectively manage the club day to day, which he's incapable of doing.

 

If we had the correct infrastructure around either Top or Rudkin, we could be okay, but ultimately too much falls onto shoulders of incompetence.