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By Lionator, in General Chat

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stripeyfox

stripeyfox

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Nothing is impossible, but it seems highly unlikley a pilot would confuse the flaps and gear controls. The flaps controls are next to the main throttle controls and have multiple settings. The gear controls are on the main panel and have a simple "up / down" spring loaded button

 

 

not raising the gear in itself is unlikley to lead to disaster in any case.

 

But the fact the gear did not retract and they seem to have flap problems does indicate a possible hydraulic problem (since hydraulics would be needed to operate gear and flaps) as @st albans fox suggested

 

 

Will be interesting to see what actually happened

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StanSP

StanSP

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1 hour ago, Sampson said:

Fecking hell. He’ll probably be having nightmares of those scenes for the rest of his life. Must be impossible to get your head round, the surrealness of surviving with the horrific things you’ve seen. 

Survivor's guilt x200ish for the rest of his life. 

 

Feel sorry for him for what he's had to witness and visualise but he's alive. 

 

If what he recollects is true, it's mad how his side sounds like it was relatively unscathed despite the explosion, and he said it didn't hit the building but straight to the ground. Suppose in the heat of the moment what he remembers might be a bit hazy! 

 

 

Guest Bilo

Guest Bilo

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Sometimes I think I might be going to hell.

The Year Of The Fox

The Year Of The Fox

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4 hours ago, lcfc278 said:

Isn't there lot's of fail-safes in place to avoid something like this happening? And doesn't the pilot have like 22 years experience? I just don't know, it just looks like something has failed rather than human error but we'll see. I hope it's not the latter.

Not really no. Although the knobs are shaped differently to help differentiate.

 

We’ve all got human error within us haven’t we?

 

Putting your spoon of sugar into the coffee pot accidentally, or the milk in the cupboard. That type of thing 

niyaminski

niyaminski

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9 hours ago, Bilo said:

 

 

Sometimes I think I might be going to hell.

I think the season ticket part was a bit of made Sean from Enderby news…

 

Solely because, if he was a ST holder, someone on here would’ve mentioned that they’ve seen him round the KP.

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ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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14 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Season ticket holder. I hope he never has the nerve to complain about his seat.

Apparently he’s been quoted as saying, “People say that what happened to me was a miracle, but then you remember that Rudkin has somehow still escaped the sack and it kind of puts things in perspective…”

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Md9

Md9

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A lady at my wife’s works daughter was on the plane 😔 also a guy at my work has a relation that was also on there who had kids with them. Can’t even think what it would be like for them it’s so sad 

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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22 minutes ago, bovril said:

https://prospect.org/economy/2025-06-12-dreamliner-gave-boeing-manager-nightmares-just-crashed-air-india/

It was probably on Air Crash Investigation or something like that where they highlighted a culturally different approach to aviation safety and how it's regulated in the US compared to the UK/Europe. In simple terms, in the latter more resource goes into trying to foresee what might go wrong and doing whatever you can to avoid that, whereas in the States the emphasis is more on picking apart things when they do go wrong and learning from that to prevent reoccurrence.

 

I think the logic of the US approach is that you cannot foresee everything and it's more efficient to learn from experience (the Elon Musk "move fast and break things" approach, and taken to the nth degree, that Stockton Rush knobhead and his cardboard submarine) but if the content of that article is to be believed it's going a bit too far in what's surely one of the worst possible sectors you could do this in

 

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bovril

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Not much discussion on the attempted pogroms in Ballymena I see. Even worse than the attempted pogroms in Rotherham last summer. More evidence to the contrary that the UK is a particularly anti-racist or even very tolerant country compared to its peers. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 minutes ago, bovril said:

Not much discussion on the attempted pogroms in Ballymena I see. Even worse than the attempted pogroms in Rotherham last summer. More evidence to the contrary that the UK is a particularly anti-racist or even very tolerant country compared to its peers. 

I think that's because recently such discussion have tended to result in a closed thread and sanctions for contributors. 

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bovril

bovril

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4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I think that's because recently such discussion have tended to result in a closed thread and sanctions for contributors. 

I think "let's not burn down houses with foreigners in them" is a pretty uncontroversial opinion

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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4 minutes ago, bovril said:

I think "let's not burn down houses with foreigners in them" is a pretty uncontroversial opinion

You would think so, wouldn't you?

 

But it seems that people are erring on the side of caution with respect to a few topics in Gen right now. 

Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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2 hours ago, bovril said:

Not much discussion on the attempted pogroms in Ballymena I see. Even worse than the attempted pogroms in Rotherham last summer. More evidence to the contrary that the UK is a particularly anti-racist or even very tolerant country compared to its peers. 

It always makes me laugh the number of people who hate foreigners and go on holiday abroad lol

 

I bet there's a huge overlap on that venn diagram.

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