Is this the worse it’s ever been?

[Claudio Fannieri]

I have supported this club for over 45 years and whilst we have been lower in the league and been in administration, this feels a lot worse. 
 

An owner who has detached the club away from its fan base, many decisions such as sponsorship etc that continue to alienate the club from its supporters. The lack of communication, almost arrogance and distain shown in refusing to engage with anyone outside the club, zero responsibility and accountability for what has happened these last 3/4 years. a man who appears to be gambling with our clubs potential future, whilst we have to sit here and watch it happen. 
 

As fans we are largely powerless, the club don’t want to listen, certain individuals remain in post despite years of poor performance. The culture is rotten, players massively overpaid, going through the motions, a manager who appears to be nothing more than a yes man. 
 

This is a collective that currently feels like the more criticism and focus they receive the more they double down. They are tone deaf and it no longer feels like our club it feels like KP’s club and we are no longer supporters but customers. We are nothing more than a cash cow to the KPFC. 
 

In all my years of supporting our club I have never felt more detached, and yet I have met some wonderful people who represent Leicester City Football Club with immense pride and commitment, the people who work for modest wages but do so with extreme professionalism, these people who were told they would be paid before Christmas to then be told this wouldn’t happen with the very minimum of notice. 
 

This is the worst I have ever known it not because of league position or results but because it feels like we are trapped in a toxic relationship with an owner who refuses to do the right thing, make the tough but right decisions and continues to treat the genuine fans with anything but distain with this lack of communication. 
 

It’s horrible I feel so helpless and invisible as far as the clubs hierarchy is concerned. I have never felt that way in any time as an LCFC fan previously.  

[Pliskin]

2 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Thinking we were a powerhouse because we competed with the big boys for 2-3 seasons is delusional I hate to tell you. Also saying we should be competing with spurs is hilarious as well. You’re right we should’ve stayed in the league and the relegation was inexcusable but that was 3 years ago now not really the situation we’re talking about now.

Post MON the club went from a league cup win to being almost insolvent and needed the city almost to come together to save the club and then a few years later we’d end up in the worst position in our history, not really comparable to the facts now.

Facts are Tops mismanagement at this stage haven’t got us near that stage, yet. Wouldn’t rule it out in a couple of seasons but ultimately if he wants to keep us he will start cutting the cloth accordingly especially when then parachute payments dry up.

 
Also if we were to be in a position of administration again were by far a more attractive proposition before in a time where foreign investment in the game has never been higher.

 

 

 

 

So what are we supposed to think following that kind of success? It wasn’t an accident…. It was the result of a well run operation….. 

 

And it’s not delusion, it’s the logic following a major success that a club like Spurs have never achieved….. this isn’t about the actual PL trophy itself, it’s the opportunity to build that, that moment gave us, which we needlessly, and so carelessly threw away. 

 

And we are still able to talk about it, because ultimately it’s where we have fallen from. You can’t cherry pick what eras you want to quote, you can say that it was worse years ago, and then say well we can’t talk about the PL win because it was ten years ago, or we can’t talk about the relegation under Rodgers/Smith because it was a few years ago. 
 

All roads within the KP era have led here….. I would argue Tops mismanagement has absolutely got us there, and worse, we’re now facing a potential points deduction, and it could seriously compromise our position on this league, we can’t sign players through fear of PSR, and we can’t sack a failing manager for the same reasons. 
 

We’re hamstrung as a club because of our own incompetence. Even when we were dreadful pre KP, we were still able to sign players, still able to out teams out, we can barely do that, and it’s likely to get worse. 
 

Don’t even think of trying to argue Top will have to make positive changes, he’s done here, the same poison that ran through Sheffield Wednesday, now runs through us…. As someone said, it took a while for the titanic to sink, this is there we are, the damage is done, and we’re just simply treading water in quick sand. 
 

Administration isn’t a good thing? Yes it’s rid Sheffield Wednesday of Chinseri, but they’re still terribly unstable. And there’s no guarantee that it will turn out well for them. It’s naive to think we would still be a “good prospect” you’re a carcass, with only the vultures and scavengers of the game wanted to pic at you.
 

There is like y no happy ending in this story, unless Top somehow comes to his senses and sells the football club….  

Edited 27 December 2025 by Pliskin

[enmac]

19 hours ago, john ridley said:

Don't even think the Mclintock season was as bad as this .

Are you joking?

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

8 hours ago, Zear0 said:

It's the most frustrating time I can remember as it feels like an opportunity being squandered. Back in the early 00s we were simply s**t and there was nothing we could do about it. 

 

Now we're not recruiting, playing well and barely even trying. There's been this rancid air of arrogance over the club for a while became open when Puel was hounded out by the players for having the audacity to make them train. Comments by the players now show they're in a bubble and have no idea how bad they are. 

 

This is why this era is so bleak as it could be turned around with people making some effort and bringing in some competence.

This is a good summary.

 

It has been worse but it's never been as frustrating.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

19 hours ago, Sly said:

I think because we have hit the heights we have done within the last 15 years, the dramatic fall has left me feeling detached from not just Leicester, but all of football. 
 

I’ve little to no interest in us currently.

Perfectly sums it up for me. 
It’s the rapid decline and lack of interest to halt the slide from the owner that has left a really bad feeling for me. 
We used to be so forward thinking, proactive and always trying to improve. 
Now it’s just apathy from Top, he seems bored of us, most can see that Rudkin needs to go, he’s the DOF who has played a huge part in our decline. 
I still live in hope though, but it’s dwindling. 
 

As an extra thought our rubbish style of play is so dull and uninspiring, it’s an obsession which needs to end. 

Edited 27 December 2025 by Mark 'expert' Lawrenson

[john ridley]

36 minutes ago, enmac said:

Are you joking?

It was a crap season  but Jock Wallace coming in and shaking the place up more than made up for it ,great times .

[oxtonfox]

2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I have supported this club for over 45 years and whilst we have been lower in the league and been in administration, this feels a lot worse. 
 

An owner who has detached the club away from its fan base, many decisions such as sponsorship etc that continue to alienate the club from its supporters. The lack of communication, almost arrogance and distain shown in refusing to engage with anyone outside the club, zero responsibility and accountability for what has happened these last 3/4 years. a man who appears to be gambling with our clubs potential future, whilst we have to sit here and watch it happen. 
 

As fans we are largely powerless, the club don’t want to listen, certain individuals remain in post despite years of poor performance. The culture is rotten, players massively overpaid, going through the motions, a manager who appears to be nothing more than a yes man. 
 

This is a collective that currently feels like the more criticism and focus they receive the more they double down. They are tone deaf and it no longer feels like our club it feels like KP’s club and we are no longer supporters but customers. We are nothing more than a cash cow to the KPFC. 
 

In all my years of supporting our club I have never felt more detached, and yet I have met some wonderful people who represent Leicester City Football Club with immense pride and commitment, the people who work for modest wages but do so with extreme professionalism, these people who were told they would be paid before Christmas to then be told this wouldn’t happen with the very minimum of notice. 
 

This is the worst I have ever known it not because of league position or results but because it feels like we are trapped in a toxic relationship with an owner who refuses to do the right thing, make the tough but right decisions and continues to treat the genuine fans with anything but distain with this lack of communication. 
 

It’s horrible I feel so helpless and invisible as far as the clubs hierarchy is concerned. I have never felt that way in any time as an LCFC fan previously.  

Really good post Claudio that sums up many of the feelings and thoughts I have. I’ve been following the club for a similar length of time and I’ve never felt more detached or more frustrated by what’s happening.  

The symptoms of poor performances, lack of fight in the team, ignoring the fans, failure in communication or inclusion are systemic from a rotten and rudderless leadership who have forgotten what a football club is all about. 

[oxtonfox]

1 hour ago, enmac said:

Are you joking?

Ah McLintock, now that was bad. We were way off it then. He signed a bunch of his old London pals, long past their best like George Armstrong, Eddie Kelly, Dave Webb and Roger Davies (ex Rams) and despite still having Keith Weller we were awful. In a strange way some similarities with the signings of Jordan Ayew and Bobby D, being past their best and way off the standard’s needed. 

[jbflcfc]

It’s all going off on twitter now.

Even JB has got involved with brock, could be one for the ages this could!

[JonnyBoy]

20 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I mean, I struggle to see how anyone doesn’t this this issue darkest period….

 

Prior to Nigel Pearson (and reluctantly KP), we were just an average club… but since then, we’ve had close to £600b pass through the club….. and we’re a million miles away from Forest, and now Coventry……..

Exactly. People aren’t taking into account we won the premier league, 10 years ago and playing in Europe, what 4 years ago? Those era’s before aren’t as bad as we hadn’t entered free fall like we have now. I don’t think there is an English club In history who has had been more neglected than us in the last 10 years 

 

the fact that Forest have the best squad they have had ever, and Coventry will get promoted to the PL this season just makes it absolutely unbearable 

 

anyone saying it’s been worse is just talking shi te 

[Corky]

Twice in the past 30 years we have had very successful spells followed immediately by a spectacular crash. On two occasions we have been relegated two years after winning a trophy and finishing in the top 8.

 

We have no slight dip or stagnation before the drop, we go in very quick time. There is no adjustment period.

[whoareyaaa]

Losing Vichai was the start of the downfall, then we lost Kasper and now Vardy.

 

Top and Rudkin have ran us into the ground.

[1972 Fox]

5 hours ago, ashbyj said:

How much will we have for the transfer market next season should we miraculously survive and offload some of the deadwood?

Absolutely fvck all is the answer to this question.

[Collibosher70]

Yes it's the worst its ever been.

A woeful team...a woeful manager...a completely inept Dof..and an owner who looks like he doesn't care much nowadays.

 

[bovril]

I've said this before but it feels worse than ever now because of what we have thrown away

[Footballwipe]

6 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I’m not sure why it said bottom actually but I should have removed that. I think it was confused with 22 team leagues in the past . But yes I was away we were third bottom that season. I just wanted to gauge what a bad finish in the context of our history looked like and I think it makes the point even if the were a couple of inaccuracies. The overall position for that season is correct.

My post was wrong but I'll ignore those and say it's basically right.

 

You're all that's wrong with the internet in the modern age 😂. Make sure you fact check your AI laziness next time and get it right. Pathetic.

[Parafox]

It's all a bit Blackburn Rovers for me.

 

Like us with KP and Vichai, they spent big under Jack Walker then he either died and the club was sold or he sold the club and died later.

 

Either way, his financial input and love for Blackburn and football was the driving force for their success. 

 

Look what happened subsequently.

 

Blackburn are owned now, I think, by a family who have wealth from owning multiple chicken processing plants.

 

No interest in the club or football in general. Just the bragging rights of owning a football club. Maybe also a way of avoiding tax 

 

And now they are no longer the club that had the likes of Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton in their squad.

 

We're on the same trajectory. 

 

Owners with no interest in the club other than it being part of some financial shenanigans WRT KP in Thailand.

 

Whatever becomes of us, we should just reflect on and remember the PL title win and the FA cup and the best players we had then. Sadly time moves on and things change.

 

Never again will our little club achieve so much against all the odds. That's not to say we shouldn't be ambitious. Of course we should and we should always strive to be the best we can be. But we have to accept our limitations because of our owners

horrendous mistakes and poor judgement.

 

Until KP are gone, we're going nowhere other than where we are now.

 

KP have no vision, no ambition, no plan, no interest.

Edited 27 December 2025 by Parafox

[Nolucklcfc]

10 minutes ago, Parafox said:

It's all a bit Blackburn Rovers for me.

 

Like us with KP and Vichai, they spent big under Jack Walker then he either died and the club was sold or he sold the club and died later.

 

Either way, his financial input and love for Blackburn and football was the driving force for their success. 

 

Look what happened subsequently.

 

Blackburn are owned now, I think, by a family who have wealth from owning multiple chicken processing plants.

 

No interest in the club or football in general. Just the bragging rights of owning a football club. Maybe also a way of avoiding tax 

 

And now they are no longer the club that had the likes of Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton in their first team.

 

We're on the same trajectory. 

 

Owners with no interest in the club other than it being part of some financial shenanigans WRT KP in Thailand.

I do see us going the way of Blackburn or Bolton. 

[LCFCJohn]

9 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

My post was wrong but I'll ignore those and say it's basically right.

 

You're all that's wrong with the internet in the modern age 😂. Make sure you fact check your AI laziness next time and get it right. Pathetic.

Alright. Chill the f*** out!

 

It tells us AI is a pile of shit which personally, I find quite reassuring. Even given such clear parameters it still can’t get it right.

 

Essentially, I am sick of seeing people justify the current situation as ‘our natural level’ which is BS. I wanted a quick way, as I have better things to do than trawl through every season (even though I’d probably find that quite interesting if I had the time) to know how bad a season has to be to rank in the top 10. We obviously know the 2005-2009 era including the 1st place in the third tier of some of those. I admit I lost my will with it given the shit it was giving me initially.

 

It’s a forum. Get a grip.

[Sly]

10 hours ago, Parafox said:

It's all a bit Blackburn Rovers for me.

 

Like us with KP and Vichai, they spent big under Jack Walker then he either died and the club was sold or he sold the club and died later.

 

Either way, his financial input and love for Blackburn and football was the driving force for their success. 

 

Look what happened subsequently.

 

Blackburn are owned now, I think, by a family who have wealth from owning multiple chicken processing plants.

 

No interest in the club or football in general. Just the bragging rights of owning a football club. Maybe also a way of avoiding tax 

 

And now they are no longer the club that had the likes of Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton in their squad.

 

We're on the same trajectory. 

 

Owners with no interest in the club other than it being part of some financial shenanigans WRT KP in Thailand.

 

Whatever becomes of us, we should just reflect on and remember the PL title win and the FA cup and the best players we had then. Sadly time moves on and things change.

 

Never again will our little club achieve so much against all the odds. That's not to say we shouldn't be ambitious. Of course we should and we should always strive to be the best we can be. But we have to accept our limitations because of our owners

horrendous mistakes and poor judgement.

 

Until KP are gone, we're going nowhere other than where we are now.

 

KP have no vision, no ambition, no plan, no interest.

I think this is very accurate.

 

Venkys are doing to Blackburn, what King Power are doing to us. They’ve fallen apart in the last 10 years and have really lost a generation of future supporters. 
 

Average attendances are down 24k to 14k.

 

Little to no money being spent. 
 

Losing money.

 

Fan want them to sell but they won’t. 
 

Sounds very, very similar to our current situation.

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

18 minutes ago, Sly said:

I think this is very accurate.

 

Venkys are doing to Blackburn, what King Power are doing to us. They’ve fallen apart in the last 10 years and have really lost a generation of future supporters. 
 

Average attendances are down 24k to 14k.

 

Little to no money being spent. 
 

Losing money.

 

Fan want them to sell but they won’t. 
 

Sounds very, very similar to our current situation.

 

 

Probably better off in a way having a Sheff Weds situation where it all blows up quick quickly and results in change, even if that is via points deductions and administration (administration where a takeover happens and not liquidation). As opposed to the club being chipped away at in the same way as Blackburn that goes under the radar quite a bit.

[Sly]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

Probably better off in a way having a Sheff Weds situation where it all blows up quick quickly and results in change, even if that is via points deductions and administration (administration where a takeover happens and not liquidation). As opposed to the club being chipped away at in the same way as Blackburn that goes under the radar quite a bit.

Yes, I do think it’ll be more Blackburn though unfortunately. 

[cruzFOX]

Has MON or big NIGE said in any interviews what they think has happened to Leicester? Just curious to hear their thoughts

[LCFCJohn]

23 minutes ago, Sly said:

Yes, I do think it’ll be more Blackburn though unfortunately. 

Maybe. Hard to tell as there are a lot of similarities between Chansiri and Aiyawatt so I have always assumed this is the way it would go. 
 

I don’t really know enough about Blackburn’s situation as to why it is continuing. Obviously they have managed to run the club down without causing serious financial offences and risking deductions or administration etc. But I am not sure of the detail as to why they haven’t been forced out. But I’d imagine our fan base being so passive would risk a more drawn out decline rather than being active like Wednesday were.

[Sly]

8 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Maybe. Hard to tell as there are a lot of similarities between Chansiri and Aiyawatt so I have always assumed this is the way it would go. 
 

I don’t really know enough about Blackburn’s situation as to why it is continuing. Obviously they have managed to run the club down without causing serious financial offences and risking deductions or administration etc. But I am not sure of the detail as to why they haven’t been forced out. But I’d imagine our fan base being so passive would risk a more drawn out decline rather than being active like Wednesday were.

I actually think the Blackburn situation is compounded by an Indian Goverment ruling that makes them underwrite the investment to businesses to 100%. 
 

They don’t have the liquidity to do it, therefore investment is minimal.