Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[Ky Le Don]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

The problems with this squad is almost all in their heads 

either they aren’t able to play well for whatever reason  or they can’t be arsed 

 

Surely the last type of coach they needed is Russell Martin 

 

they needed.an experienced older coach who would put an arm around some and tell the others a few home truths. 
the pretty football could wait until we’d got back into the championship 

more horrendous decisions from the board 

I wanted a Pearson type figure. Get rid of the rot, set the standards and just go back to basics with pure effort

[SemperEadem]

12 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

On nothing but a hunch, but I think this goes one of two ways. 

 

He jacks it after the transfer window and walks..Or,.he has a 'road to Damascus' moment, and starts to manage pragmatically (which I think he's well capable of) 

 

 

 

Do managers jacl it in now? Feels like they may well have but not now the money is too big.

[Winstonthedog]

12 hours ago, studentofthegame said:

He's just not a good manager

 

I genuinely don't understand what any clubs see in him

 

The position of his clubs at the end of the season/time of him leaving have been

 

18th in League 1

13th in League 1

15th in the Championship

10th in the Championship

4th in the Championship

20th in the Premier League

8th in the Scottish Prem

 

So once he has had a successful season and even then they were the lowest of the 3 relegated teams and 9 points off automatic promotion

 

Over his career he actually has a negative goal difference despite his entire philosophy being to control possession

 

 

You have to admit .... its a pretty impressive record of failure and still keep getting decent jobs .... 

[The Doctor]

14 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Do managers jacl it in now? Feels like they may well have but not now the money is too big.

ironically RvN did at PSV over board betrayal, and I'd rate his time here far more highly if he stuck to that and had just fully put this board in the headlights in our sporting press.

[trooky]

15 hours ago, Groby_Blue said:

I'm sure most of you have seen this fact before but I'll just put out there again - 

 

The 2020/2021 season, only Man City and Barcelona had a higher average possession percentage than Martin's MK Dons side, who finished 13th in League One. 

 

Big Sam said back in the day when he was West Ham manager, if you want to play that style of football, you need £100mil to spend on the very best players capable of playing it, otherwise it simply doesn't work. 

 

It hasn't worked anywhere that Martin has managed before and it isn't working now. Regardless of whether we've got the players for it, it's become too easy to play against. We've seen this already in the last two games. 

 

Burton basically just gave the blueprint of how to play against us to every other manager in the league - on match day two - and unless Martin recognises and addresses this, we are in for a horrible season. 

You only need this type of football if your trying to unlock the best defences at the top of he PL or champions league against the best coaches. 

 

Its not needed in league 1 were  a bit of physical and direct football will surfice when you have the budget we have. 

 

The is just to satisfy the failed fantasy of Top and RMs insane ego. 

 

I bet his missus is frustrated, his foreplay must last for days. 

Edited 24 August by trooky

[ARM1968]

Russel Martin - “I may not be a smart man, but I know what possession is.”

[Trent Steel]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Do managers jacl it in now? Feels like they may well have but not now the money is too big.

Nah he'll wait for his payout!

[Bablemikey]

Think the club & Martin have completely underestimated this league. Ironic, given the comments he makes about humility.

[Manwell Pablo]

10 minutes ago, Bablemikey said:

Think the club & Martin have completely underestimated this league. Ironic, given the comments he makes about humility.

They haven’t given him players to make his style of football work. Which is unsurprising. 
 

Even if you put his recent failings to one side, not that should but let’s do that for now, simply stylistically alone, it’s another extremely dumb appointment from the club unless you are going to invest in it, which they have not. 
 

Early days I guess but in scrambling past a poor League Two side and drawing with County and losing to Burton it doesn’t look very good. 

[StanSP]

 

 

[surrifox]

12 hours ago, Ky Le Don said:

I wanted a Pearson type figure. Get rid of the rot, set the standards and just go back to basics with pure effort

Clueless “ Directors of Football” and pusillanimous owners cannot risk working with strong characters likely to challenge them hence the procession of bozos we’ve taken on of late . Might have to wait for this lot to leave before a proper football club culture descends on the club 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

They haven’t given him players to make his style of football work. Which is unsurprising. 
 

Even if you put his recent failings to one side, not that should but let’s do that for now, simply stylistically alone, it’s another extremely dumb appointment from the club unless you are going to invest in it, which they have not. 
 

Early days I guess but in scrambling past a poor League Two side and drawing with County and losing to Burton it doesn’t look very good. 

 

it’s completely the wrong time to try and clamor drastic changes to your style of play. You really should only be doing it when the manager is able to  ring his own players in

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

They haven’t given him players to make his style of football work. Which is unsurprising. 
 

Even if you put his recent failings to one side, not that should but let’s do that for now, simply stylistically alone, it’s another extremely dumb appointment from the club unless you are going to invest in it, which they have not. 
 

Early days I guess but in scrambling past a poor League Two side and drawing with County and losing to Burton it doesn’t look very good. 

The problem is, they think they have given him the players to make this style of play work

[kenny]

5 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The problem is, they think they have given him the players to make this style of play work

If he had any ability at all he would be playing a style that suits the players we have. Then the squad could be adapted with time to the style he wants.

 

As I said, if.

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

They haven’t given him players to make his style of football work. Which is unsurprising. 
 

Even if you put his recent failings to one side, not that should but let’s do that for now, simply stylistically alone, it’s another extremely dumb appointment from the club unless you are going to invest in it, which they have not. 
 

Early days I guess but in scrambling past a poor League Two side and drawing with County and losing to Burton it doesn’t look very good. 

You would also assume that a manager with half a clue would be able to adapt and have many options for each opponent.

 

It is hubris, stupidity and laziness to just have one tactic and stick to it contrary to the outcome. We haven’t got eye players so the manager should be the one to change to get the best out of his options. 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

6 minutes ago, kenny said:

If he had any ability at all he would be playing a style that suits the players we have. Then the squad could be adapted with time to the style he wants.

 

As I said, if.

In fairness though why bring a manager who is renowned for playing a particular way, and not give him the tools to do so. I genuinely believe Top and Rudkin think they have provided the goods because they are imbeciles. If Martin were any good, he wouldn't be here, and its unlikely that any other good manager would want to work under these clowns either. 

[Guy]

13 hours ago, Ky Le Don said:

I wanted a Pearson type figure. Get rid of the rot, set the standards and just go back to basics with pure effort

Dave Challinor would've surely been the logical answer here rather than Martin but either Top and co. didn't like him or his more pragmatic/direct style of football or he himself didn't fancy the gig, having seen all the shenanigans of the past two seasons going on! As the poster above said any decent manager would probably steer clear!

Edited 24 August by Guy

[Wymsey]

Ange Postcoglou probably would've been a great fit.

 

Direct football and wouldn't be afraid of speaking up against any authority decisions.

[coolhandfox]

33 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Ange Postcoglou probably would've been a great fit.

 

Direct football and wouldn't be afraid of speaking up against any authority decisions.

Fits with our no defence methodology.

Edited 24 August by coolhandfox

[Thebluefox85]

Russell Martin is the perfect fit for Leicester, he has failed everywhere he has been. his football makes zero sense, he's the David Brent of football managers. and this is why he's the perfect fit for Leicester and Top, Top has admired Martin for a fair few years now we have been linked with him a few times and only now when Martins stock is on his arse and so is Leicesters, top thinks its a great idea to employ this incompetent clown, and by the looks of it give him free rain of the club. any Leicester fan with a cell of footballing knowledge knew this appointment was never going to work. he will only drag this club further into trouble. this appointment has to be up there with the worst appointment this club has ever made. god help this club because under top and martin we will be going to league 2. I really hope I'm wrong  but from the way he's already talking he's massively in denial on what the problems are with this team. I honestly believe you could give him 100m in this league and he would still send us down. until King Power sell, these are the appointments and mismanagement we are going to have to suffer.

[Blarmy]

9 hours ago, trooky said:

 

I bet his missus is frustrated, his foreplay must last for days. 

Wouldn’t it be more like he’s five minutes into foreplay and then suddenly blows his load for no apparent reason?

[trooky]

1 hour ago, Blarmy said:

Wouldn’t it be more like he’s five minutes into foreplay and then suddenly blows his load for no apparent reason?

😂 Nah, he's not MSOG in 90 minutes. 

[stevostadium]

booing after 30 mins, and chanting your not fit to wear the shirt and you dont know what your doing leads to one thing ultimately.

He be gone before guy fawkes

personally, i think he needs to be given time

[Dippy]

Martin won't change his style. Given time he'll recruit to fit it, but he won't change it.

 

His issue with Southampton was that promotion was too big a step and his players aren't good enough to do it when they are among the worst team in the league. With us at MK he had 4 transfer windows and we steadily improved after each... though he didn't actually see it through after the 4th one with his squad and a few changes to the style we came 3rd in League 1.

 

But, and rightfully so, you guys don't have the patience required to allow him to work, and he'll just do his reputation even more damage to your detriment. That's something that given how much I detest him for his actions at the end of his spell here, I am very excited to see (sorry guys!)

[Dan]

5 hours ago, Richmondfox said:

You would also assume that a manager with half a clue would be able to adapt and have many options for each opponent.

 

It is hubris, stupidity and laziness to just have one tactic and stick to it contrary to the outcome. We haven’t got eye players so the manager should be the one to change to get the best out of his options. 

 

The biggest worry is the two players he worked with before look ill-fitted to how he wants to play.