Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[Tommy Fresh]

I'm not keen on him, but I think he'll definitely do a job and achieve what's needed this season though. Hopefully learnt a few lessons from a spell of failure

[OntarioFox]

4 hours ago, pmcla26 said:

I do think some people have decided they don’t like him because they’ve been told not to, rather than actually knowing much about him/his teams. 

I got way more invested in Scottish football than I ever have before thanks to Hearts' story, and watched a fair bit of Rangers under him as a result, and they were absolutely appalling. He effectively cost them the league with his stint. They were eighth when he left. EIGHTH. RANGERS.

Edited Sunday at 22:23 by OntarioFox

[Collymore]

45 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I'm not keen on him, but I think he'll definitely do a job and achieve what's needed this season though. Hopefully learnt a few lessons from a spell of failure

Don't understand this logic because if I thought he could "definitely" do a job i'd be keen on him! 

[Tommy Fresh]

30 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Don't understand this logic because if I thought he could "definitely" do a job i'd be keen on him! 

Pretty simple really, I think he'll do a job this year simply because we're the biggest club, but if he's not learnt to adapt it's a very short sighted appointment when we get back up and his previous stubborness likely becomes an issue again.

[Collymore]

7 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Pretty simple really, I think he'll do a job this year simply because we're the biggest club, but if he's not learnt to adapt it's a very short sighted appointment when we get back up and his previous stubborness likely becomes an issue again.

...but that's what we thought last year when we got relegated. Biggest club in the Championship it'll be easy for Marti. 

[Ric Flair]

7 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Pretty simple really, I think he'll do a job this year simply because we're the biggest club, but if he's not learnt to adapt it's a very short sighted appointment when we get back up and his previous stubborness likely becomes an issue again.

He's never ever learnt to adapt. I'm resigned to him being here and doubling down on his methods which require considerable resources to be successful which he'll never get in the types of jobs he is employed in.

 

In theory he should still have enough to create a strong team at this level but that's where I think we'll trip up as you can be at a level that you're capable of dominating but not with incompatible football, that will unnecessarily jeopardise that and that is exactly what he'll try and do.

[AKCJ]

10 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Pretty simple really, I think he'll do a job this year simply because we're the biggest club, but if he's not learnt to adapt it's a very short sighted appointment when we get back up and his previous stubborness likely becomes an issue again.

Ultimately I think our season is going to be extremely predictable.

 

I think we'll come out of the gate looking like the best team to ever step foot in League 1 and then in September/October time we'll go to some shithole and comfortably lose 2-0 which will set the blueprint on how to beat Russell Martin's Leicester.

 

Martin to be sacked when we fall out of the play off positions in December.

[Tommy G]

16 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Ultimately I think our season is going to be extremely predictable.

 

I think we'll come out of the gate looking like the best team to ever step foot in League 1 and then in September/October time we'll go to some shithole and comfortably lose 2-0 which will set the blueprint on how to beat Russell Martin's Leicester.

 

Martin to be sacked when we fall out of the play off positions in December.

Monday morning really hits hard. 

[Tommy Fresh]

3 hours ago, Collymore said:

...but that's what we thought last year when we got relegated. Biggest club in the Championship it'll be easy for Marti. 

Don't think anyone thought it'd be easy for Cifuentes did they? But I don't think anyone thought we'd be anywhere near as bad as we were 

[Tommy Fresh]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He's never ever learnt to adapt. I'm resigned to him being here and doubling down on his methods which require considerable resources to be successful which he'll never get in the types of jobs he is employed in.

 

In theory he should still have enough to create a strong team at this level but that's where I think we'll trip up as you can be at a level that you're capable of dominating but not with incompatible football, that will unnecessarily jeopardise that and that is exactly what he'll try and do.

I'm not a fan at all, think it'll likely be a bit of a more passive version of Maresca in the champ, where just having on paper a better team should be enough. I think his stubborness if he hasn't learnt to mix it up a bit more, will definitely be more of an issue if we do go back up. 

 

Also, regardless of manager, we're having most of the ball bar one or two games you'd imagine, so having a manager keen on having the ball isn't that bad it's whether he's willing to be a bit more forward thinking and direct when we've got it, that'll win people over.

[Katy]

I’m not remotely positive about Leicester City, on or off the pitch which is why I’ve barely posted on here this close season. I’m pissing myself off with my negativity, never mind anyone else. We all knew Martin would be coming in, it was inevitable but now he’s actually in place it’s the final straw for me. So glad I jacked my ST in towards the backend of last season.
 

I don’t even care if he gets us promoted, I’m actually done until KP **** off. Yeah I’ll post in the match day threads if I’ve not found anything better to do but the love has completely gone lads, I’ve got nothing left to give to them. 

[Foxin_Mad]

4 hours ago, Collymore said:

...but that's what we thought last year when we got relegated. Biggest club in the Championship it'll be easy for Marti. 

Tbf Marti is a 3rd rate clown who has achieved the grand sum of absolutely nothing in football other than being vaguely Catalan. At least Martin has actually managed in the Premier League (badly) and Won promotion in a tough division previously. I suspect if we had got Martin last summer we probably wouldnt have been relegated. 

[AjcW]

Has he got any mates yet or have we ****ed over yet another manager and lumbered him with a load of our existing 'coaches'??

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Tbf Marti is a 3rd rate clown who has achieved the grand sum of absolutely nothing in football other than being vaguely Catalan. At least Martin has actually managed in the Premier League (badly) and Won promotion in a tough division previously. I suspect if we had got Martin last summer we probably wouldnt have been relegated. 

We would probably have got relegated earlier.But still willing to give him a Month this season to see if he's managed to learn from his mistakes.

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Has he got any mates yet or have we ****ed over yet another manager and lumbered him with a load of our existing 'coaches'??

Our coaches are a massive problem. Same mistakes every week, nothing fixed. 

 

Surely a coach and manager with half a brain would tell Mavadidi to stop playing like he chooses to, explaining the mistakes and options when going over footage.  Every week he seemed unwilling and unable to process then need to run into space and pass to players ahead. Thomas to Mav to Thomas cross should be bread and butter last season. 

I feel all Martin will do is enable the walking football and boring passes between JV, Thomas, Winks and Skipp. Pass back at the expense of a quick counter just for Okoli to reboot his brain before he passes to the opposition or JV gets pressed and countered. 

 

[The Doctor]

18 hours ago, FoxesFan100 said:

I don’t understand why “fans” want a manager to fail, if he fails so do we… makes zero sense. 
 

 

I think there's a huge difference between wanting him to fail and expecting him to. I don't want any Leicester manager to fail, because that would mean we do as well, but pretending in the face of all available evidence that Russell Martin is a good manager rather than an ideologue who's last job finished 8th in a 2 horse race is just ridiculous.

[Nickaj]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

 

 

Martin to be sacked when we fall out of the play off positions in December.

 

After all his efforts to recruit Martin - and over such an extended period  of time covering 3 / 4 seasons, - do you honestly believe Top would sack him inside four months of his arrival?

 

If we “fall out of the play off positions” as you put it, Martin will simply plead the need for patience and Top will absolutely lap it up and double down on this appointment keeping him in place to avoid more loss of face.

 

Honestly, Martin’ s for the foreseeable future……..

 

 

 

[inckley fox]

1 minute ago, Nickaj said:

 

After all his efforts to recruit Martin - and over such an extended period  of time covering 3 / 4 seasons, - do you honestly believe Top would sack him inside four months of his arrival?

 

If we “fall out of the play off positions” as you put it, Martin will simply plead the need for patience and Top will absolutely lap it up and double down on this appointment keeping him in place to avoid more loss of face.

 

Honestly, Martin’ s for the foreseeable future……..

 

 

 

All true. And with that in mind the obvious conclusion I'd draw is to get behind it, because 'this is the hand we've been dealt'.

 

And I totally accept that in the short-term the job may get done. We might go up. But in the long-term I also see that the only way things will ever work out with Top and friends at the helm is for them to fundamentally rethink their ideas. Agreed, it's highly unlikely that will ever happen, but it's still the only hope.

 

So I might well say 'let's get behind it, give it a chance and hope things work themselves out down the line', but someone else might say 'no, if it's never going to work, let that become as abundantly clear as soon as possible so we can correct course'.

 

I understand both ways of looking at it, even though it's highly unlikely that Top will ever see short-term (but unsustainable) success under Martin for what it is. Or, alternatively, to look at short-term failure under Martin, and make the right decisions to address these fundamental issues. In spite of this catch-22 sort of situation, the only way of looking at it which still makes zero sense to me is the 'perhaps this time they're actually going to get it right' brand of blind optimism which some still seem to prefer.

[AKCJ]

16 minutes ago, Nickaj said:

 

After all his efforts to recruit Martin - and over such an extended period  of time covering 3 / 4 seasons, - do you honestly believe Top would sack him inside four months of his arrival?

 

If we “fall out of the play off positions” as you put it, Martin will simply plead the need for patience and Top will absolutely lap it up and double down on this appointment keeping him in place to avoid more loss of face.

 

Honestly, Martin’ s for the foreseeable future……..

 

 

 

Martin is going to be given absolutely zero leeway from Leicester fans.

 

When things turn sour it will get very nasty very quickly.

 

I don't think he'll have a choice. It will be self-preservation mode and a sacking simply to appease Leicester fans. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

Martin will need to hit the ground running and will need to have a massively positive set of results with aligned performances until at least the end of September to get more than 50% of supporters on side. 

 

Even then I'm likely to want him out

[Foxin_Mad]

3 hours ago, cropstonfox said:

We would probably have got relegated earlier.But still willing to give him a Month this season to see if he's managed to learn from his mistakes.

I doubt Martin does worse than that absolute Marti clown either way, that guy had not one ounce of managerial ability and it showed. 

[Hales]

I'm not ready for a new season and certainly not ready for ruddy Russell Martin 😒

 

I think it might finish me off seing Wout returning!

[Katy]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Martin is going to be given absolutely zero leeway from Leicester fans.

 

When things turn sour it will get very nasty very quickly.

 

I don't think he'll have a choice. It will be self-preservation mode and a sacking simply to appease Leicester fans. 

When has Aiyawatt ever done anything to appease the fans? Hes just appointed the guy everyone was kicking off about when we thought he was coming last time. He absolute hates us as a fan base. I think he’ll cling onto Martin for dear life like he did Brendan Rodgers - look what happened there! 

[The Doctor]

39 minutes ago, Katy said:

When has Aiyawatt ever done anything to appease the fans? Hes just appointed the guy everyone was kicking off about when we thought he was coming last time. He absolute hates us as a fan base. I think he’ll cling onto Martin for dear life like he did Brendan Rodgers - look what happened there! 

when it saves his own guts. Insecure man like that will push anyone under the bus to feel liked by a group of people. Currently there's still, bafflingly, a ton of King Power In folk who think he's an unfortunate kid learning the ropes after a tragedy rather than a fully grown man who couldn't run a bath. If they finally start to turn after we drop to our lowest point ever (that's 7th or below in this division), he'll go into self preservation mode and push someone under the bus so those fans back off and blame that person. the obvious choices will be Rudkin (but he's staying in position as a permanent scapegoat for Aiyawatt), McCarron or Martin.

[stu]