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So, getting this back on track....... the club have just announced the permanent move away for BEK

Being 1st July, maybe they are starting the ball rolling with departure news, to then start announcing signings?

It's how they've worked in the past

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58 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Fans of his previous clubs have questioned that they weren't able to carry that football out though by either being unfit or unsuited. I hope we see a big shift in that here as we have been way off it for a few years now but i'm not confident.

For a Club with the best facilities in the Country our Fitness levels have been terrible. The amount of times looking at players trying to run backwards to defend or help out I'm pretty sure I could have kept up with them.

We need to get super fit before the season starts as it's amazing how many teams you can catch out early in the season. Then momentum is everything.

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11 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

For a Club with the best facilities in the Country our Fitness levels have been terrible. The amount of times looking at players trying to run backwards to defend or help out I'm pretty sure I could have kept up with them.

We need to get super fit before the season starts as it's amazing how many teams you can catch out early in the season. Then momentum is everything.

Seeing the Japan game the other day shocked me about how unfit / lethargic Leicester have become. I had forgotten how good a hard working team could look out of possession 

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36 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Is that actually true though, I don't mean fans saying it, as we've got fans that still want Daka so... I mean did they carry it out.

 

From the games I saw, his Southampton team absolutely did, and in the championship they led on Passes Per Defensive Action, which I'd take as the strongest indicator of aggressive out of possession press, with the most shots from turnovers.

I'm lazy so I will refer this to @moore_94 @kingfox what are the metrics that measure running stats and pressing / pressures that could stack up if Martin's teams are well prepared to play that style of football or are invariably unfit.

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38 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm lazy so I will refer this to @moore_94 @kingfox what are the metrics that measure running stats and pressing / pressures that could stack up if Martin's teams are well prepared to play that style of football or are invariably unfit.

Isn’t it measured by how far you can cover… or was it engine capacity… yeah that was it… cc… Conor Chaplin. Stay on topic people!

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2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm lazy so I will refer this to @moore_94 @kingfox what are the metrics that measure running stats and pressing / pressures that could stack up if Martin's teams are well prepared to play that style of football or are invariably unfit.

PPDA is a stat I usually look at.

 

I believe Martin’s Southampton ranked 1st in that statistic in the 23/24 season.

 

Apologies @RedSoxUK didn’t read your post at first, you’re right 👍🏻

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5 minutes ago, kingfox said:

PPDA is a stat I usually look at.

 

I believe Martin’s Southampton ranked 1st in that statistic in the 23/24 season.

Passes Per Dirty Arse?

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20 minutes ago, kingfox said:

PPDA is a stat I usually look at.

 

I believe Martin’s Southampton ranked 1st in that statistic in the 23/24 season.

 

Apologies @RedSoxUK didn’t read your post at first, you’re right 👍🏻

That's reassuring, passive defending is a masterclass of ours as is being out of position which Martin's teams risk playing a high line. One other thing to consider is how badly his teams seemingly perform in the latter stages of games where they either throw away goals and points or a lot of chances that could have been dropped points. His Swansea team was renowned for this, sure I read they would have been playoffs one year if it were not for a lot of points dropped at the end sighting fatigue either physically or mentally from what they are asked to do.

 

Southampton was similar but I also remember them scoring quite ablit at the end as their games were basketball at times.

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5 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Are you basing that on any metrics?

 

4 hours ago, PageSZN said:

You know this how? He also has brought a fitness coach in + Conor Hurihane who knows the fitness requirements for L1

No, not metrics, just know a number of Southampton fans as have family there and it was something moaned about a fair bit.  I haven't got any metrics for moaning either. Could be the fitness wasn't up to Premier League standard as posts since illustrate it wasn't a problem at Champ level.  

 

So I guess it's just "vibes".

 

4 hours ago, Tuna said:

 

Doubt you'll get a reply

WRONG Mr Fish!  Shit as it was!

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13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

That's reassuring, passive defending is a masterclass of ours as is being out of position which Martin's teams risk playing a high line. One other thing to consider is how badly his teams seemingly perform in the latter stages of games where they either throw away goals and points or a lot of chances that could have been dropped points. His Swansea team was renowned for this, sure I read they would have been playoffs one year if it were not for a lot of points dropped at the end sighting fatigue either physically or mentally from what they are asked to do.

 

Southampton was similar but I also remember them scoring quite ablit at the end as their games were basketball at times.

It was about the only stat I was encouraged by, when I delved into those statistics when he was linked to the job last year. Southampton’s possession stats though, unsurprisingly were enough to make your eyes bleed. 
 

If you want to keep tabs throughout next season, this is the place Ric :thumbup:

 

Just toggle around where it says Attacking and go down to Pressing 👍🏻


https://theanalyst.com/competition/english-league-one/stats?_gl=1*t92ur5*_up*MQ..*_ga*Njc1MDI1MzA5LjE3ODI5MTU2NjY.*_ga_BGFPTYQE1X*czE3ODI5MTU2NjUkbzEkZzEkdDE3ODI5MTU2ODAkajQ1JGwwJGgw

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9 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I think for up and coming players we have those in our youth team so I'd expect us to be able to compete financially with half the championship with a couple of sales. 

 

By the end of the window we should have the strongest team in League one if we spend sensibly.

i am not so sure my friend, struggling to get some of the high earners off the books i have been told.

This is where the new TD makes a name for himself

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